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Located in Northern Archanta, the '''{{relation|26775|Bai Empire}}''' (百帝国) is a Chinese-speaking country that was once a colonial power. While China is the main inspiration, with the country taking up the Chinese culture, heritage and language, the Empire is not intended to be a carbon copy of the China we know today. Think of the project to be an answer to what a functioning, modern Chinese Empire will be like, with relatively stronger influences from other East Asian cultures.  
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Located in Northern Archanta, the '''{{relation|26775|Bai Empire}}''' (百帝国) is a Chinese-speaking country that was once a colonial power. While China is the main inspiration, with the country taking up the Chinese culture, heritage and language, the Empire is not intended to be a carbon copy of the China we know today. Think of the project to be an answer to what a functioning, modern Chinese Empire will be like, with relatively stronger influences from other Asian cultures.  
  
The project has recently been expanded to encompass (at [https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/util/relation_area.html?map=C/5/26.84085/153.20022&q=26775 812540.00 km²]). The project is being led by me, {{OGF user|zhenkang}}, and anyone interested in participating is welcome.
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The project has recently been expanded to encompass (at [https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/util/relation_area.html?map=C/5/26.84085/153.20022&q=26775 812540.00 km²]). The project is being led by {{OGF user|zhenkang}}, and anyone interested in participating is welcome.
 
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==General Information==
 
The Bai Empire is intended to have a strong economy with moderate levels of development. It is a regional power with have a strong influence on regional history and culture. Close coordination will be required if you happen to be a neighbour of Bai.
 
 
[[File:Draft Bai map in North Archanta.png|thumb|centre|500px|The above is a draft map drawn in December 2020. The boundaries will shift over time as the project evolves.<s><br>Orange and Red for (the tentatively named) Ninwa (Japan) and Chohan (Korea) respectively.</s> Yellow for the Bai Empire and Purple for my personal conlang project Kanglapo]]
 
 
===The Emperor's Commandments===
 
''While these are more like guidelines than actual rules, please adhere to them unless granted permission to do so otherwise.''
 
# [[OpenGeofiction:Site policies|OGF rules]] also apply here. Adhere to them as well.
 
# Only map in Chinese, with no Latin transliterations (e.g. "雄京" and not "雄京 Xiongjing")
 
## Even if you don't speak Chinese, but is still able to map an East Asian-style city, leave the naming and translation to us.
 
# Follow the guidelines of the province/city you are mapping in.
 
# The OGF map is set in modern times, so don't map as though it was in a past dynasty (though if you want to, you can develop your mapping across time to help give some sort of realistic organic growth to your mapping. Just ensure the end product is the mapping we see today.)
 
# Please do not make drastic changes to the national geography, rivers and infrastructure (roads and rails) without the permission of the coordinator (namely me)
 
# The provinces are part of the Bai Empire. Please do not join the treacherous ways of Kaosha and Dehua (Cinasia) and declare independence for your own province. Independence movements may exist (especially for Hainanese-speaking Qiongzhu) and there can be former brief independent republics that existed during the Warlord Era. However, back to rule no. 4, the map is set to what the area is today.
 
 
 
==Contributors==
 
==Contributors==
Anyone with a background, interest, and/or understanding of Chinese culture and history (especially pre-PRC Chinese history) is welcome to join in the project. (It is not necessary to have proficiency in the Chinese language.) Mappers may claim their own province, or sign-up to be part of the three collaborative projects (detailed in the following sections).
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Anyone with a background, interest, and/or understanding of Chinese culture and history (especially pre-PRC Chinese history) is welcome to join in the project. (It is not necessary to have proficiency in the Chinese language). Mappers may claim a province or sign up to be part of the three collaborative projects (detailed in the following sections).
  
 
To indicate your interest in joining the Bai Empire Project, please ask on the discussion page or [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/zhenkang message me] personally.
 
To indicate your interest in joining the Bai Empire Project, please ask on the discussion page or [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/zhenkang message me] personally.
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====Active====
* {{OGF user|zhenkang}}, coordinator and co-founder of the project. Responsible for lore and main contributor of Xiongjing municipality.  
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* {{OGF user|zhenkang}}, coordinator and co-founder of the project. Responsible for lore and main contributor to Xiongjing municipality.
* {{OGF user|The_Cute_Chick}}, co-founder of the project. Responsible for macro-scale mapping of the whole territory and mapper of Neilu province.  
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* {{OGF user|kengoman}}, responsible for micro-scale mapping and mapper of Qiongzhu province.
* {{OGF user|kengoman}}, responsible for micro-scale mapping and mapper of Qiongzhu province.  
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====Retired/Inactive====
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* {{OGF user|Intergan}}, mapper of Shidizhuang and surroundings in Dong'an province.  
 
* {{OGF user|Hilsonbergman}}, main contributor of Dunghoigong municipality.  
 
* {{OGF user|Hilsonbergman}}, main contributor of Dunghoigong municipality.  
* {{OGF user|Intergan}}, mapper of Shidizhuang and surroundings in Dong'an province.  
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* {{OGF user|The_Cute_Chick}}, co-founder of the project. Responsible for macro-scale mapping of the Empire and mapper of Neilu province.  
 
* {{OGF user|Tin Cing}}, mapper of Huicheng city in Tongbian province.  
 
* {{OGF user|Tin Cing}}, mapper of Huicheng city in Tongbian province.  
 
* {{OGF user|poweikao}}, owner of neighbouring country Kaosha.  
 
* {{OGF user|poweikao}}, owner of neighbouring country Kaosha.  
 
* {{OGF user|coshatiuav}}, owner of neighbouring country Grinzez.  
 
* {{OGF user|coshatiuav}}, owner of neighbouring country Grinzez.  
 
* {{OGF user|Mtejku222}}, former/emeritus mapper of the territory.  
 
* {{OGF user|Mtejku222}}, former/emeritus mapper of the territory.  
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==Geography and influences==
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The Bai Empire is a large country in Northern Archanta with a subtropical climate. The geographic layout for the Empire (which has been mapped during the former Commonia period) will not drastically change. A mountain range cuts through the central region of the Empire in a general southwest-northeast diagonal, leading to the Muinon mountains in neighbouring Kauscha and Cinasia. Much of the major urban centres will be on the flatter and fertile regions along the north and east coasts, with a generally drier climate on the west region bordering Grinzez. Some of the existing major rivers will not be erased, but their course may be modified accordingly to be topographically consistent. There will also be some changes to the coastline to make them more detailed and natural.
  
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The Bai Empire, however, is located '''significantly south''', with the north coast of the Empire barely crossing the subtropical latitude ([https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/util/map_scale.html?map=C/5.372034240110154/20.44969/145.47018&map2=OSM/x/20.43793/-245.56060&pxpt=0.2767&scale=12800000 around Taiwan]). In addition, the Empire is significantly smaller compared to the real-world China (about a quarter). The Bai Empire will take more influences from southern China, such as the Huadong, Huazhong, Huanan, Xinan areas. Of course, the main culture is still Chinese just like the language (Mandarin).
  
==To-do list==
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[[File:Bai influences regional map.png|thumb|centre|500px|General regional influences map. Note this does not indicate the actual political divisions of the Empire.]]
There are plenty of stuff that is needed to be done. Any help is welcomed.
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* Huadong (华东): Jiangsu, Anhui, Shandong, Zhejiang, Jiangxi, Fujian, Taiwan
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* Huazhong (华中): Hunan, Hubei, Henan
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* Xibei (西北): Shaanxi, Gansu
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* Huanan (华南): Guangdong, Hong Kong, Macau, Guizhou and Hainan
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* Xinan (西南): Sichuan, Yunnan
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National-level mapping:
 
*Nationwide topo-mapping
 
*Number and name the roads of the nationwide road network (based on Kengo's proposed road numbering scheme)
 
*Further detail the roads, rail lines, rivers, forests and coastlines
 
Xiongjing (capital):
 
*Complete the suburb division of the city
 
*Detail the National Palace. It's a blank slate for now
 
*Just more detailing overall (including rail depots, key commercial areas, industrial areas etc etc). Check the [[Collab:Bai Empire/Xiongjing|collab page]] for more precise projects of interest.
 
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==History==
 
==History==
 
''To see the lore of the Bai Empire, read [https://pointochinikia.miraheze.org/wiki/Bai_Empire this article].''
 
''To see the lore of the Bai Empire, read [https://pointochinikia.miraheze.org/wiki/Bai_Empire this article].''
  
The history of Bai is long and eventful. In the 12th century, the First Bai Dynasty was established after centuries of divisions and war. It was succeeded by the Suo, after a Ninwan (or a foreign power) conquest in the 13th to 14th centuries, similar to the Mongol-led Yuan Dynasty. During the Suo, the Bai Empire set out its colonial exploits, establishing new colonies beyond Northern Archanta and Eastern Uletha. These colonisation projects wouldn't last, due to dwindling funds that drained the Empire's economy.
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The history of Bai is long and eventful. In the 12th century, the First Bai Dynasty was established after centuries of divisions and war. It was succeeded by the Suo, after a non-Bai conquest in the 13th to 14th centuries similar to the Mongol-led Yuan Dynasty. During the Suo, the Bai Empire set out its colonial exploits, establishing new colonies beyond Northern Archanta and Eastern Uletha. These colonisation projects wouldn't last, due to dwindling funds that drained the Empire's economy.
 
 
The "Dark Period" of Bai came in the 16th century when corrupt bureaucrats and merchants led to the Suo's collapse and the Lin was established. During this period, Bai gave up many of its colonial possessions through pacts with the West Ulethan colonial powers, which were also given control over parts of the Empire proper. The Middle Bai came in the 17th century, which established the semi-constitutional monarchy (influences from the West). This dynasty was considered the "peak" of modern Bai but collapsed with the rise of radical ideologies such as Bai Fascism and communism.
 
 
 
The '''War of Fellow Brothers''' erupted after the fascists gained power and overthrew the monarchy. The fascists, rather expansionist and with a need for resources, waged war with their regional neighbours. While they were eventually put down with a coalition of resistance forces, its collapse led to the Warlord Era, where many factions competed for influence. The New Bai Dynasty only came about in the 1960s, and the Empire rapidly recovered economically to regain its influence in the region.
 
 
 
==Geography==
 
[[File:Aschnar-province_map_sketch.png|thumb|300px|An old plan for AR909 (a Khmer-speaking collaborative). Some sketches of the plans remain relevant for this project]]
 
A (sketch of a) topological map is needed to determine the major geographic features and the major road and rail infrastructures.
 
  
The geographic layout for the Empire (which has been mapped during the former Commonia period) will not drastically change. The central area will remain mountainous, with flatter fertile regions at the north and eastern coasts. Some of the existing major rivers will not be erased, but their course may be modified accordingly to be topographically consistent. There will also be some changes to the coastline to make them more detailed and natural. The boundaries will also shift once the geographic features are mapped.  
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Bai came under Ulethan influence in the 16th century during the Lin Dynasty. Bai gave up many of its colonial possessions through pacts with the West Ulethan colonial powers, which were also given control over parts of the Empire proper. The Middle Bai came in the 17th century, which established the semi-constitutional monarchy. This dynasty was considered the "peak" of modern Bai but collapsed with the rise of radical ideologies such as Bai Fascism and communism.  
  
Please see the "More Advanced Projects" section for projects related to the national geography.
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The '''War of Fellow Brothers''' erupted after the fascists gained power and overthrew the monarchy. The fascists waged war with their regional neighbours. While they were eventually put down with a coalition of resistance forces, its collapse led to the Warlord Era, where many factions competed for influence. The New Bai Dynasty only came about in the 1960s, and the Empire rapidly recovered economically to regain its influence in the region.
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==Commerce and Industry==
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The Bai Empire has a strong economy with moderate levels of development. The capital, [[Collab:Bai Empire/Xiongjing|Xiongjing]], was constructed on a high-altitude plateau with two large lakes during the Middle Bai Dynasty and is the political and cultural centre of the modern Empire. Other major cities include [[Collab:Bai Empire/Port Dunghoi|Port Dunghoi]], a major industrial port on the east coast of the Empire; {{relation|219524|Riqing}}, a coastal city similar to Tianjin but Teochew speaking (i.e. Chaozhou in the style of Tianjin); and [https://opengeofiction.net/#map=13/24.5036/144.4853&layers=B Jincheng], another master-planned city intended to be a modern economic hub like Shanghai. The interior central and western regions, particularly close to the mountain ranges, will see mining industries that boomed during the industrialisation of Bai.
  
==Culture and language==
 
The main language used is Mandarin Chinese, the main script Simplified. However, certain regions and states may use other dialects like Cantonese (e.g. Port Dunghoi), Hainanese, Hakka, Hokkien, Shanghainese, and Teochew. For the transcription of dialects, it is encouraged to use a non-Latin script like Bopofomo, Hangeul or Kana.
 
 
==National infrastructure==
 
==National infrastructure==
 
===Road network===
 
===Road network===
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===Rail network===
 
===Rail network===
 
''Main article: [[Collab:Bai Empire/Railways]]''
 
''Main article: [[Collab:Bai Empire/Railways]]''
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==To-do list==
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There are plenty of stuff that is needed to be done. Any help is welcomed.
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National-level mapping:
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*Nationwide topo-mapping
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*Number and name the roads of the nationwide road network (based on Kengo's proposed road numbering scheme)
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*Further detail the roads, rail lines, rivers, forests and coastlines
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Xiongjing (capital):
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*Complete the suburb division of the city
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*Detail the National Palace. It's a blank slate for now
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*Just more detailing overall (including rail depots, key commercial areas, industrial areas etc etc). Check the [[Collab:Bai Empire/Xiongjing|collab page]] for more precise projects of interest.
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==Provinces of Bai==
 
==Provinces of Bai==

Revision as of 01:51, 13 February 2024

Achtung.svg This is the collaboration page for the Bai Empire.
  • This page exists to coordinate the project and coordinate collaborations within it. Notes for the Empire, its colonisation projects, history, and more are also detailed on this page.
  • The Empire is currently being expanded and hence most of the information here might be outdated.
  • While I welcome anyone to use the information in this article in developing histories, especially for main-space wiki articles, please be aware that information and details here may be subject to drastic changes over time. Please check this page regularly for updates.
  • If you have any queries (whether asking questions on the project or indicating an interest in joining):
Flag of Bai Empire Bai Empire
Imperial Seal

百帝国 (Baiyu)
Capital: Xiongjing
Population: 210,000,000 (2022)
Motto: 百省一心
Anthem: Glory to the Empire

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Located in Northern Archanta, the Bai Empire (百帝国) is a Chinese-speaking country that was once a colonial power. While China is the main inspiration, with the country taking up the Chinese culture, heritage and language, the Empire is not intended to be a carbon copy of the China we know today. Think of the project to be an answer to what a functioning, modern Chinese Empire will be like, with relatively stronger influences from other Asian cultures.

The project has recently been expanded to encompass (at 812540.00 km²). The project is being led by zhenkang, and anyone interested in participating is welcome.

Contributors

Anyone with a background, interest, and/or understanding of Chinese culture and history (especially pre-PRC Chinese history) is welcome to join in the project. (It is not necessary to have proficiency in the Chinese language). Mappers may claim a province or sign up to be part of the three collaborative projects (detailed in the following sections).

To indicate your interest in joining the Bai Empire Project, please ask on the discussion page or message me personally.

Active

  • zhenkang, coordinator and co-founder of the project. Responsible for lore and main contributor to Xiongjing municipality.
  • kengoman, responsible for micro-scale mapping and mapper of Qiongzhu province.

Retired/Inactive

  • Intergan, mapper of Shidizhuang and surroundings in Dong'an province.
  • Hilsonbergman, main contributor of Dunghoigong municipality.
  • The_Cute_Chick, co-founder of the project. Responsible for macro-scale mapping of the Empire and mapper of Neilu province.
  • Tin Cing, mapper of Huicheng city in Tongbian province.
  • poweikao, owner of neighbouring country Kaosha.
  • coshatiuav, owner of neighbouring country Grinzez.
  • Mtejku222, former/emeritus mapper of the territory.

Geography and influences

The Bai Empire is a large country in Northern Archanta with a subtropical climate. The geographic layout for the Empire (which has been mapped during the former Commonia period) will not drastically change. A mountain range cuts through the central region of the Empire in a general southwest-northeast diagonal, leading to the Muinon mountains in neighbouring Kauscha and Cinasia. Much of the major urban centres will be on the flatter and fertile regions along the north and east coasts, with a generally drier climate on the west region bordering Grinzez. Some of the existing major rivers will not be erased, but their course may be modified accordingly to be topographically consistent. There will also be some changes to the coastline to make them more detailed and natural.

The Bai Empire, however, is located significantly south, with the north coast of the Empire barely crossing the subtropical latitude (around Taiwan). In addition, the Empire is significantly smaller compared to the real-world China (about a quarter). The Bai Empire will take more influences from southern China, such as the Huadong, Huazhong, Huanan, Xinan areas. Of course, the main culture is still Chinese just like the language (Mandarin).

General regional influences map. Note this does not indicate the actual political divisions of the Empire.
  • Huadong (华东): Jiangsu, Anhui, Shandong, Zhejiang, Jiangxi, Fujian, Taiwan
  • Huazhong (华中): Hunan, Hubei, Henan
  • Xibei (西北): Shaanxi, Gansu
  • Huanan (华南): Guangdong, Hong Kong, Macau, Guizhou and Hainan
  • Xinan (西南): Sichuan, Yunnan

History

To see the lore of the Bai Empire, read this article.

The history of Bai is long and eventful. In the 12th century, the First Bai Dynasty was established after centuries of divisions and war. It was succeeded by the Suo, after a non-Bai conquest in the 13th to 14th centuries similar to the Mongol-led Yuan Dynasty. During the Suo, the Bai Empire set out its colonial exploits, establishing new colonies beyond Northern Archanta and Eastern Uletha. These colonisation projects wouldn't last, due to dwindling funds that drained the Empire's economy.

Bai came under Ulethan influence in the 16th century during the Lin Dynasty. Bai gave up many of its colonial possessions through pacts with the West Ulethan colonial powers, which were also given control over parts of the Empire proper. The Middle Bai came in the 17th century, which established the semi-constitutional monarchy. This dynasty was considered the "peak" of modern Bai but collapsed with the rise of radical ideologies such as Bai Fascism and communism.

The War of Fellow Brothers erupted after the fascists gained power and overthrew the monarchy. The fascists waged war with their regional neighbours. While they were eventually put down with a coalition of resistance forces, its collapse led to the Warlord Era, where many factions competed for influence. The New Bai Dynasty only came about in the 1960s, and the Empire rapidly recovered economically to regain its influence in the region.

Commerce and Industry

The Bai Empire has a strong economy with moderate levels of development. The capital, Xiongjing, was constructed on a high-altitude plateau with two large lakes during the Middle Bai Dynasty and is the political and cultural centre of the modern Empire. Other major cities include Port Dunghoi, a major industrial port on the east coast of the Empire; Riqing, a coastal city similar to Tianjin but Teochew speaking (i.e. Chaozhou in the style of Tianjin); and Jincheng, another master-planned city intended to be a modern economic hub like Shanghai. The interior central and western regions, particularly close to the mountain ranges, will see mining industries that boomed during the industrialisation of Bai.

National infrastructure

Road network

Main article: Collab:Bai Empire/National Roads

The_Cute_Chick has kindly helped sketched the road and rail network in the Bai Empire. Meanwhile, kengoman has drawn up a detailed documentation for the national road mapping convention.

Please bear in mind a few things:

  • The Empire is left-hand driving.
  • Please do not make drastic changes to the road network without permission.
  • If you want to build a cross-country road (whether motorway or normal trunk country road), please message me and I will check on your proposal
  • Adhere to the documentation (relinked it here, in case you miss it).

Rail network

Main article: Collab:Bai Empire/Railways

To-do list

There are plenty of stuff that is needed to be done. Any help is welcomed.

Stock post message.svg To do list
Meta

National-level mapping:

  • Nationwide topo-mapping
  • Number and name the roads of the nationwide road network (based on Kengo's proposed road numbering scheme)
  • Further detail the roads, rail lines, rivers, forests and coastlines

Xiongjing (capital):

  • Complete the suburb division of the city
  • Detail the National Palace. It's a blank slate for now
  • Just more detailing overall (including rail depots, key commercial areas, industrial areas etc etc). Check the collab page for more precise projects of interest.

See also