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User:Danny11 created this hypothetical climate map: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6737/51351719.14/0_a6251_4389e0dc_orig

With the comment:

If on this planet follow the laws of physics, and it rotates in the same direction as the Earth, the natural areas should be distributed approximately as follows: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6737/51351719.14/0_a6251_4389e0dc_orig (Average temperature, the tilt axis, eccentricity orbit, etc. are also affected, but I think they are the same as the Earth. Unfortunately, nothing is known about the location of major mountain ranges. So I made a map as if the entire surface was moderately hilly.)

I also made a hypothetical climate map last week (http://i.imgur.com/cGhMUQJ.jpg) so check that one out too if you like. I think Danny's is probably better researched though. I don't know much about these things.

Feel free to discuss here. Are there mountains or other features that would modify these patterns? Countries that don't fit? And obviously, despite what any of these maps says, everyone is free to create whatever climate they like in their own sovereign territory. ;-) --Isleño (talk) 21:31, 15 August 2014 (CEST)

That is ALMOST exactly how it works for my country, pretany, except the steepes and savanahs are much farther south. well within Rusky and the shire of Trinity. Everything in my country north of the border of rusky is boreal forest. And don't forget there is a massive mountain range that extends on my western border deeper along the border with sathria. That would be a local mountainous coniferous forest climate. Imagine my country like Russia.Bhj867 (talk)

Both pattern are very global. Important are the mountains and the cold or warm streamings in the oceans. This are first to designe, before we can begin to talk over rain.  ;-) --Histor (talk) 22:00, 15 August 2014 (CEST)

I'm sure Danny modeled the ocean currents based on those of Earth. (That's what I did.) Mountains of course are missing, like you said. If you can tell him where they are and how high, he might be kind enough to make an updated version. --Isleño (talk) 22:48, 15 August 2014 (CEST)

Dagelanden has a Cf climate (I think this is mixed temperate forest). The Towaren mountain range (western border of Nenië, see map) has a ET (tundra) climate. KVh (talk) 15:24, 17 August 2014 (CEST)

Hmm, this poses some interesting dilemmas for Wiwaxia. I probably need to move my farmland areas to the northern part of the country; the current farmland areas could potentially become plantations instead. Lots to think about. --Demuth (talk) 17:11, 17 August 2014 (CEST)

Although this doesn't work for the coast, an easy way to make the rest of the country cooler is with some elevation. Say most of Wiwaxia is on a plateau of 500m or 1000m. With that altitude I imagine you'd get a pretty decent 4-season climate at 30°N. --Isleño (talk) 02:36, 18 August 2014 (CEST)

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Images of climate zones

I've read a lot this week end trying to have an idea about how this world could appear. I've tryed to collect different informations from the main pages, discussion pages and even countries pages to draw thoses fake satellite views ;) I cannot claim to affirm this is how it really looks like, these are more proposals sat views wich can be always modificated according to the new mappings. Hope you guys will like the result anyway. :) [[File:Satellite_view_proposal.jpeg]] [[File:Sat_views_proposal.jpeg]]

By the way, I'm just starting editing on the encyclopedia, so feel free to tell me if I'm doing wrong etditing this way. Cheers, Rémi

Hello! Visually that looks terrific! It's great. But I don't think that UL160 or even UL153 is north enough to have the eternal snow. --Trabantemnaksiezyc (talk) 17:10, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

It looks great. But there are some issues with making 'whole world' maps, as things tend to change, and it is hard to keep them up to date. You can try and do that, but probably it is better to focus on your own projects initially. Btw, please add your signature at the end of your comment - 2 '-' and 4 '~' or the 2nd tab from right at the top of the editing window. Welcome Rémi--Udilugbuldigu (talk) 19:54, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

Thanks guys, that's nice from you. Don't get me wrong Udilugbuldigu, this map doesn't claim to decide how it must be as a rule, no, this is just an artistical view of this planet. It can at best inspire you or give you new ideas, but my purpose was not to impose my point of you. So it doesn't matter if things change as we all continue mapping. There's no need to update it.

About the eternal snows, I just wanted to show how the most austral and septentrional zones look when they are in their coldest season (in winter in the two hemispheres both). So it's not really eternal snows but just snow ;) --Rémi (talk)

That looks terrific! Of course everyone's eyes immediately go to their own territory to spot even the slightest inconsistencies with their own ideals. But I think this image is a great piece of work, and personally I think posting it on the diaries to have everyone share their thoughts on this would be a great idea :)Leowezy (talk) 23:17, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

Pretany is not that snowy except the mountains, and there are more rivers, and you forgot the Inara Basin. Other than that it looks pretty good. Bhj867 (talk) 23:26, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

I agree with Leo that a diary entry to showcase these great images would be worthwhile. And of course this has to be an artistic view of the planet, in fact it must be a composite image to get the snow in both hemispheres at the same time. I think you could have much more snow or much less - there's no problem with that and you could explain any 'factual' inaccuracies as a by-product of the art-science collaboration process, whoever these (fictional) artist-scientists are. The actual outlines of countries can still change, things can get added and taken away but you've been very wise to keep the coastlines fairly broad-brush, so that may work and you may entirely avoid major problems. You haven't linked to the ocean bottom or tectonic maps you also uploaded yet, but when it comes to doing this there may be more issues. If you do link to these, please do it through the OGF:Plate tectonics page where the structures visible from space can be discussed. Finally, I don't know how you created the world images, but it is also possible to create animated GIFs of worlds from wrapped images, see https://bitbucket.org/maptoglobe/maptoglobe.bitbucket.org Well done on this -Udi --Udilugbuldigu (talk) 00:03, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

, Pretany and Mid-Western Uletha for a little reference. I whipped this up today painstakingly looking at what is mapped in the region around my country at the moment, then made some educated guesses.Bhj867 (talk) 08:27, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

Looks great! For consistency, the Firth of Hetzer should be the same colour as the Great Rift Sound, since they're both arms of the sea?--Udilugbuldigu (talk) 09:51, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

Wow fantastic, this upclose view is awesome. It looks real, logical and realistic. You did a great job Bhj867.

To answer to Udilugbuldigu, I personaly use Photoshop wich allows to convert a flat map into a sphere. It's pretty simple and gives good image rendering. But to match a little bit more with the talk theme I'll try to post some new pictures with clouds, high and low pressures cells just to give it a natural touch. --Rémi (talk) 22:21, 1 August 2017 (CEST)