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===Origin===
===Origin===
Where did the project originate from? The most notable real life counterpart, CERN, was initiated by a group of countries with the clear intent for it to become a major research project, so it had a fairly large scope at its inception. Alternatively, our project might have grown more "organically", beginning as a local laboratory in the region. In the latter case, the project might have begun as a local project in Antharia, Qennes and/or Niscavo, and after a while would have grown in scope, gained international partners, and eventually "absorbed" into ASUN. What does the rest of the community think? [[User:Timboh|Timboh]] ([[User talk:Timboh|talk]]) 19:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Where did the project originate from? The most notable real life counterpart, CERN, was initiated by a group of countries with the clear intent for it to become a major research project, so it had a fairly large scope at its inception. Alternatively, our project might have grown more "organically", beginning as a local laboratory in the region. In the latter case, the project might have begun as a local project in Antharia, Qennes and/or Niscavo, and after a while would have grown in scope, gained international partners, and eventually "absorbed" into ASUN. What does the rest of the community think? [[User:Timboh|Timboh]] ([[User talk:Timboh|talk]]) 19:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
:I can see both ideas be the reason for this project's creation - a laboratory complex started by the 3 countries (or by the Iviran organization, knowing that ASUN was the merger of a Mediterranean and Iviran organization), or a full-scale project initiated by ASUN. A good starting point for discussion would be the budget of the project. CERN costed 4.75 billion US dollars with more than a billion in yearly contributions from each of its members and associates, while ASUN's project is larger, hence more expensive. I like the idea of some smaller research institutes in the 3 countries starting way back, probably at the same date as CERN itself (1950s), as it's hard that the three countries could fund this massive project alone. Furthermore, the project could have gained traction, support and further investment from the entirety of ASUN to its present size. It could make sense that ASUN decided to upgrade an existing project with already somewhat ready facilities instead of construction one from scratch, although that doesn't forbid the organization for construction another one elsewhere in the future.
:I don't have any good reasoning for why it would specifically be located in these three countries, other than it being a project predating ASUN. Qennes, and I can assume the other two countris as well, has great interest in nuclear energy used in electricity (which is not the main focus of CERN), which could've expanded into particle physics and atomic research as well. [[User:Bixelkoven|Bixelkoven]] ([[User talk:Bixelkoven|talk]]) 21:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


== List of facilities and internal projects ==
== List of facilities and internal projects ==
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| ASUN-XXX Great Particle Accelerator<br><antharian><br><eganian><br>''ASUN XXX Ațelerator ḑe Partikuli Mare''
| ASUN-XXX Great Particle Accelerator<br><antharian><br><eganian><br>''ASUN XXX Ațelerator ḑe Partikuli Mare''
| ASUN XXX
| ASUN XXX
| 1954
| 19xx
| {{relation|113504|Antia}}/{{relation|113503|Kalliakra}}, {{Antharia}}<br>[[Niscavo]]<br>{{relation|250852|Feredetî}}, {{Qennes}}
| {{relation|113504|Antia}}/{{relation|113503|Kalliakra}}, {{Antharia}}<br>[[Niscavo]]<br>{{relation|250852|Feredetî}}, {{Qennes}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{relation|351859|Map}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{relation|351859|Map}}
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| ASUN-XXX Minor Particle Accelerator<br><antharian><br><eganian>
| ASUN-XXX Minor Particle Accelerator<br><antharian><br><eganian>
|  
|  
| 1954
| 19xx
|  
|  
|  
|  
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| XXX Research Centre Sentares-VP<br>''Țentru ḑe Raṣerṣe ḑe XXX Vadă Potoļeu''
| XXX Research Centre Sentares-VP<br>''Țentru ḑe Raṣerṣe ḑe XXX Vadă Potoļeu''
| {{way|29009506|XXX Southwestern Research Centre}}
| {{way|29009506|XXX Southwestern Research Centre}}
| 1953
| 19xx
| Vadă Potoļeu/Vamă Niskavei, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}
| Vadă Potoļeu/Vamă Niskavei, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009943|Map}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009943|Map}}
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| XXX <xxx> Research Centre <br><eganian>
| XXX <xxx> Research Centre <br><eganian>
| {{way|29009506|XXX Southwestern Research Centre}}
| {{way|29009506|XXX Southwestern Research Centre}}
| 1953
| 19xx
| xx, {{Niscavo}}
| xx, {{Niscavo}}
|  
|  
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| XXX Rofis Testing Facility<br><eganian>
| XXX Rofis Testing Facility<br><eganian>
|  
|  
| 1953
| 19xx
| Rofis, {{Niscavo}}
| Rofis, {{Niscavo}}
|  
|  
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| ASUN Technopolis VP<br><eganian><br>''ASUN Tehnopol Vadă Potoļeu''
| ASUN Technopolis VP<br><eganian><br>''ASUN Tehnopol Vadă Potoļeu''
| XXX Southwestern Research Centre
| XXX Southwestern Research Centre
| 2011
|  
| Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}<br>xx, {{Niscavo
| Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}<br>xx, {{Niscavo
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009501|Map}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009501|Map}}
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| ASUN TechnoForum<br>''ASUN TehnoForum''
| ASUN TechnoForum<br>''ASUN TehnoForum''
| XXX Southwestern Research Centre
| XXX Southwestern Research Centre
| 2019
|  
| Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}
| Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009501|Map}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009501|Map}}
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| ASUN XXX University - Sentares-VP Campus<br>Qennesan: ''Iaupistîma ḑe XXX - Kampus Sentares-VP''
| ASUN XXX University - Sentares-VP Campus<br>Qennesan: ''Iaupistîma ḑe XXX - Kampus Sentares-VP''
| XXX Southwestern Research Centre
| XXX Southwestern Research Centre
| 1997
|  
| Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}
| Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, {{Qennes}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009366|Map}}
| [[File:OGFmapicon.png|28px]] {{way|29009366|Map}}
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| ARHET
| ARHET
| Major project
| Major project
| 1987 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| SIP
| SIP
| Major project
| Major project
| 1980 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| VHP
| VHP
| Research project
| Research project
| 1954 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| TTM
| TTM
| Project
| Project
| 1995 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| HiVe CoDe
| HiVe CoDe
| Project
| Project
| 1970 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| HFCS
| HFCS
| Experiment
| Experiment
| 1959 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| DOF
| DOF
| Experiment
| Experiment
| 1995 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| CCPST
| CCPST
| Experiment
| Experiment
| 2000 - 2011
| xxxx - xxxx
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| CCPST2
| CCPST2
| Experiment
| Experiment
| 2012 -  
| xxxx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| Cos1
| Cos1
| Synchrotron
| Synchrotron
| 1960 - 1970
| 19xx - 19xx
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| Cos2
| Cos2
| Synchrotron
| Synchrotron
| 1974 - 1992
| 19xx - 19xx
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
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| BLPA
| BLPA
| Linac
| Linac
| 1995 -  
| 19xx -  
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| ASUN [xxx] Southwest, {{node|186883595|Vadă Potoļeu}}
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]
| [[File:FlagQennes.png|28px]]

Latest revision as of 21:32, 15 February 2023

ForumsGlobal and regional issues → Global and regional issues/ASUN - Nuclear Research Center Project

The ASUN Nuclear Research Center Project (unofficial name) is a major project within the collaborative sphere of ASUN. It's primary inspiration is the CERN organization and research center in Geneva, while also taking inspiration from similar centers such as SLAC, Fermilab (United States), DESY (Germany), ESS (Sweden), and others.

Although its primary function as a research center is the particle accelerator, it will also feature a broad spectrum of research complexes and facilities spanning into other areas as well. Alongside that, it would also be the drive force for other related or semi-related projects, like education centers for example.

The project is thought to be created on the border tripoint of Flag of Antharia.svg Antharia, Niscavo and FlagQennes.png Qennes, roughly in this area. It was initiated by users Bixelkoven, clik and stjur.

All mappers, particularly other ASUN members, are welcome to add to the discussions.

History & lore

Here we will discuss the reasoning and history of such a project; why it was created, how did it work through time, and anything that may influence the mapping of the project

Name

What should the official name for the project be? It's a minor detail overall but I personally think a nice, catchy acronym is always a plus when creating names for these international projects. ante44 suggested NARSU to me, Nuclear and Atomic Research of South Uletha, which I thought was a concise name. Feel free to add other suggestions that we can discuss. Timboh (talk) 19:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Origin

Where did the project originate from? The most notable real life counterpart, CERN, was initiated by a group of countries with the clear intent for it to become a major research project, so it had a fairly large scope at its inception. Alternatively, our project might have grown more "organically", beginning as a local laboratory in the region. In the latter case, the project might have begun as a local project in Antharia, Qennes and/or Niscavo, and after a while would have grown in scope, gained international partners, and eventually "absorbed" into ASUN. What does the rest of the community think? Timboh (talk) 19:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

I can see both ideas be the reason for this project's creation - a laboratory complex started by the 3 countries (or by the Iviran organization, knowing that ASUN was the merger of a Mediterranean and Iviran organization), or a full-scale project initiated by ASUN. A good starting point for discussion would be the budget of the project. CERN costed 4.75 billion US dollars with more than a billion in yearly contributions from each of its members and associates, while ASUN's project is larger, hence more expensive. I like the idea of some smaller research institutes in the 3 countries starting way back, probably at the same date as CERN itself (1950s), as it's hard that the three countries could fund this massive project alone. Furthermore, the project could have gained traction, support and further investment from the entirety of ASUN to its present size. It could make sense that ASUN decided to upgrade an existing project with already somewhat ready facilities instead of construction one from scratch, although that doesn't forbid the organization for construction another one elsewhere in the future.
I don't have any good reasoning for why it would specifically be located in these three countries, other than it being a project predating ASUN. Qennes, and I can assume the other two countris as well, has great interest in nuclear energy used in electricity (which is not the main focus of CERN), which could've expanded into particle physics and atomic research as well. Bixelkoven (talk) 21:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

List of facilities and internal projects

Here we will list all the facilities, centers, mini-projects that will be featured within the whole scope of this project. The real world centers like CERN have a large amount of facilities, so this list is imagined to be quite large. It is suggested that all listed items should be mapped eventually.

Facilities, major structures and research centers

Name Research Centre Date opened Location Map
ASUN-XXX Great Particle Accelerator
<antharian>
<eganian>
ASUN XXX Ațelerator ḑe Partikuli Mare
ASUN XXX 19xx Antia/Kalliakra, Flag of Antharia.svg Antharia
Niscavo
Feredetî, FlagQennes.png Qennes
OGFmapicon.png Map
ASUN-XXX Minor Particle Accelerator
<antharian>
<eganian>
19xx
XXX Research Centre Tornou(?)
<antharian>
Tournou, Kalliakra, Flag of Antharia.svg Antharia(?)
XXX Research Centre <xxx>
<antharian>
Tournou, Kallyakra, Template:Niscavo
XXX Research Centre Sentares-VP
Țentru ḑe Raṣerṣe ḑe XXX Vadă Potoļeu
XXX Southwestern Research Centre 19xx Vadă Potoļeu/Vamă Niskavei, Feredetî, FlagQennes.png Qennes OGFmapicon.png Map
XXX <xxx> Research Centre
<eganian>
XXX Southwestern Research Centre 19xx xx, Template:Niscavo
XXX Research Center Tribia
<antharian>
Tribia, Kalliakra, Flag of Antharia.svg Antharia
XXX Libel East Research Centre
<antharian>
Badou Philagra, Antia, Flag of Antharia.svg Antharia
XXX Libel West Research Centre
Țentru ḑe Raṣerṣe Libel - ḑaț
Barinoța, Feredetî, FlagQennes.png Qennes
XXX Rofis Testing Facility
<eganian>
19xx Rofis, Template:Niscavo
XXX Setnes Testing Facility
Katastaṣi ḑe Testare Setnes
Setnes, Feredetî, FlagQennes.png Qennes
ASUN Technopolis VP
<eganian>
ASUN Tehnopol Vadă Potoļeu
XXX Southwestern Research Centre Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, FlagQennes.png Qennes
xx, {{Niscavo
OGFmapicon.png Map
ASUN TechnoForum
ASUN TehnoForum
XXX Southwestern Research Centre Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, FlagQennes.png Qennes OGFmapicon.png Map
ASUN XXX University - Sentares-VP Campus
Qennesan: Iaupistîma ḑe XXX - Kampus Sentares-VP
XXX Southwestern Research Centre Vadă Potoļeu, Feredetî, FlagQennes.png Qennes OGFmapicon.png Map

Projects and experiments

Name Code Type Date Location Co. Map Information
Absorber Research - Hadron Energy Transmission ARHET Major project 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Project used to experiment with slowing down particles, absorbing their energies, researching hadrons, hadron transmission through absorbers, researching the hadron cascade, etc.
Santa Isolde Project SIP Major project 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Isotope Separator On Line Device. Production of radioactive nuclides, isotopes and low-energy beams. Named after a suburb of Navenna.
Vince Hildebert Project VHP Research project 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Theoretical research project with experiments tested and conducted based on the works of Vince Hildebert.
Tau Transverse Magnet TTM Project 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Experimenting with tau and tau-neutrino particles, their electromagnetic, gravity and weak interaction forces.
High Velocity Collision Detector HiVe CoDe Project 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Project involving the research and improvement on detectors and their usage in high velocity collisions and research data studies. Designed to resemble a beehive, bearing its name.
Heavy-force Collision Simulators HFCS Experiment 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Longest running practical project in the Southwest Research Centre. Used for simulating of collisions before their practical testing, and gathering and working with the data after tests and experiments.
Destruction Operators Force DOF Experiment 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Testing and simulating particle destruction and its effects.
Charge Conjugation Parity Symmetry Testing CCPST Experiment xxxx - xxxx ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Studying and testing the symmetry of particles, parity and conjugation parity, time reversal, string theory, etc.
Charge Conjugation Parity Symmetry Testing 2 CCPST2 Experiment xxxx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Advancing and expanded testing of the previous CCPST project.
Cosmotron 1 Cos1 Synchrotron 19xx - 19xx ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map The first proton synchrotron in ASUN-XXX. Research based on kinetic energy, particle beam extraction, observation of mesons, etc. Decommissioned in 1970 to allow for a second .
Cosmotron 2 Cos2 Synchrotron 19xx - 19xx ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map The second phase of the Cosmotron synchrotron. Increased research capacities including particle beam extraction outside the accelerator, V particles, research on cosmic rays, etc. Decommissioned in 1992.
Booster Linear Particle Accelerator BLPA Linac 19xx - ASUN [xxx] Southwest, Vadă Potoļeu FlagQennes.png OGFmapicon.png Map Used to research and test the boosting and increased acceleration of electrons. Used to produce, confine and maintain a high energy electron beam in a closed orbit for a longer period of time, and producing synchrotron light for other experiments.

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