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Hello everyone,

as regional admin for East Uletha, I have been updating the East Uletha Concept (EUC) throughout the last couple of weeks to reflect the current state of the map. Most sectors of East Uletha are still aligned with the general spirit of the concept, but some sectors might need some adjustments to create a more believable world on a larger scale. More concretly, some sectors don't yet have a clear cultural/linguistic "theme". That can be sectors that are empty, sectors with a wild mix of different language themes or sectors with language themes that seem misplaced on a larger scale. Improving this is a very long-term process, think years. Most importantly, I want to define the intended language themes for some sectors more clearly so that new mappers joining the community can see more easily where their intended mapping project would fit best, and also to be able to offer established mappers to migrate their work to other sectors or continents if they wish to do so.

This post is intended to collect some input from the wider community on this future development of East Uletha. Mappers from affected sectors are especially encouraged to voice their thoughts, but everyone on OGF is invited to chip in as well. Please make sure to actually read through the EUC before commenting. To keep the discussions manageable, please try to structure your comments along the sector numbers. The discussion will be open for about two weeks. After that I'll try to organise the input and work with the admin team and mappers from the affected sectors on working out the revised sector descriptions. The sectors in question are:

Sector 21 (Temperate East Uletha I)

• Challenges: unexplainable mix of Germanic, Finnish and Romance languages
• Advantages: some consistent large-scale mapping, nice coastline and natural feature mapping
• Proposals and projects:
  • UL21c – should be cleaned up. Move or recreate "Vatican" equivalent elsewhere, most likely in west Uletha (current status of discussion on world-religion?)
  • UL21d/e – would User jak consider moving to a romance/Italian speaking area? Remaining Germanic theme would fit well with other territories around the Darcodian sea.

Sector 25 (Whale Sea states)

• Challenges: Incoherent mix of Scandinavian, French and English
• Advantages: Interesting cold oceanic theme
• Proposals and projects:
  • General – Establish new long-term goal for more coherent linguistic theme

Sector 26 (Ulethan Mideast)

• Challenges: besides Midistland no active territories
• Advantages: Reserve sector for many possible future themes
• Proposals and projects:
  • General – The remaining territories in the sector are to be kept as a reserve for new ideas coming up in the future.

Sector 27 (Kaspen Sea countries)

• Challenges: one English speaking territory, one (plus micro state) German(ic) speaking territory
• Advantages: Reserve sector for many possible future themes
• Proposals and projects:
  • General – The remaining territories in the sector are to be kept as a reserve for new ideas coming up in the future.

Sector 29 (Lantian Peninsula)

• Challenges: Presence of the English language so far unexplained
• Advantages: Mostly uniform English-speaking, attractive temperate and coastal territories
• Proposals and projects:
  • General – Could be canonized as a region with very old Ingerish colonial presence or similar influence (pre 1500), leading to an old-world mapping style.

Sector 30 (Axian Peninsula)

• Challenges: Wild mix of French, Japanese, English and Indonesian. Low activity. No compelling peninsular wide geography.
• Advantages: Low interdependence with neighbouring sectors.
• Proposals and projects:
  • General – Could in the future follow an East/South-East Asia theme. Would work well with Chinese language in North Archanta and Asian-language-inspired conlang/hybrid territories in sector 31. Could host the Japanese homeland.

Sector 32 (Monsoon East Uletha)

• Challenges: No compelling "cultural narrative" yet.
• Advantages: Potential for either a dedicated cultural pole or a transition zone.
• Proposals and projects:
  • General – Could either be reworked with a new, original theme, or defines as a transition sector between English influence (north) and east-Asian influence (south).

Looking forward to your input,
Leowezy (talk) 19:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC).

Comments

I am an example comment. My comments are:

• 25: xyz
• 32: xyz
• General: xyz

For Sector 30, a Japanese homeland in what is currently Pasundan is still being considered. oneofbeatlefan said he will try to convince the current mapper to move to Krajanesia in the near future.

With this move, there's several potential benefits to the overall geography and culture of the region as has been pointed out before

1. East Asian cultural continuity from North Archanta ("old world" Chinese) to East Uletha ("new world" Japanese/Korean/conlangs)
2. Indonesian cultural continuity in southern North Archanta
3. Creation of Japanese homeland to anchor any potential new Japanese/conlang territories (because many people seemed to be inclined to do this, also potentially attracting Japanese mappers since currently there is no Japanese territory at all)

There are of course many challenges to this:

1. As far as I know, the only other user who has a high level understanding of Japanese is Izaland. While he is interested in joining a potential collab like this, it's still a challenge to use the language
2. A lot of mappers show interest in joining this collab but is unsure about how active they may want to participate in it (language barriers and their own territory commitments)
3. Territories surrounding the peninsula has weird culture (which should be fixed according to the plan)
4. A potential situation like Huaxia where new Japanese mappers dislike how the Japanese homeland turned out and create their own homeland

People has also been talking about making the peninsula an island (perhaps dense island chains at the part where it connects to the mainland right now), although this is not necessary if unable.

Overall I do believe that if oneofbeatlefan is sucessful in convincing the mapping move, that a Japanese collab territory in sector 30 is a good idea.

- Kengoman (talk) 21:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC)