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''¡Sentíos libres de escribir en Español, si así os sentís más cómodos!''
 
''¡Sentíos libres de escribir en Español, si así os sentís más cómodos!''
  
==Cleanup==
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== Urban Mapping ==
The first stage mapping-wise will be the complete clean-up of the mapping of Castellán. All mapping previous to the setting of the collaborative stage is expected to be removed. The only mapping that will be pre-emptively conserved will be whatever is on the border with Mazan, specially land cover that spans both countries. Coastline is not to be changed either yet.
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''This is part of the project for the Collab of the Month, September 2022''
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After the Regional mapping for the first province has been decided and mapped (congratulations to Bixelkoven!), we will move to the urban mapping of the area. This is the system we will use for the mapping of towns and cities in the area:
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Before starting on the urban breakdown, I'd reccomend to use [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-TPdn4xyhV6FmhOlehfZPhE1Cc1NlTzq/view?usp=sharing this resource] to try and make an idea of what do you want your Castellan city to look like.  
  
'''WARNING''': Currently, mass deletions of 10.000 entities or more will mess with the renderer. If you plan on participating on the cleanup of Castellán, please have this into account, and NEVER delete more than 10000 entities at once.
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'''IMPORTANT:''' For organisation purposes, please specify which town of city you want to map so I can reserve it for you, so we don't end up having several people mapping on a single town by mistake. Also, do not map before I give you permission to do so. Look at the list of towns and cities assigned below for more details. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 13:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
  
'''If you have any questions about the cleanup or would want to help on it, please write it here below.'''
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==== Capital Provincial ====
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It will be mapped collaboratively, and planned in a similar fashion as the province: Submissions will be sent, and a vote will be held. Unlike the regional mapping, though, that was more definitive, this will be focused on the style of mapping that will be carried out in each part of the country, maybe with the definition of some main elements like main roads and similar areas. Afterwards, the city will be mapped in a collaborative fashion, with different parts and stages of the city potentially mapped by different users.
  
==Physical planning==
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[[File:Province capital metro.png|center|thumb|452x452px|Area to be planned collaboratively]]
Here we will dicuss and suggest what the Castellán physical geography will look like.
 
  
===Coastline suggestions===
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==== Ciudad importante ====
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These will be mapped [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/Martinawa at the request] of users, but having into account that more than one user can be mapping into such cities, due to their size. Proposals for these cities will be approved at request if they're good enough, and can be mapped right away. They will be featured in the wiki article, in case others want to join the mapping of the city.
  
The eastern coastline of Castellán previous to the collab stage resembles too much the real Spanish east coastline shape. For this reason, that section of the coastline will be reworked. If you have any ideas on how to do it, please post them here below.
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==== Ciudad mediana ====
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These will also require a [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/Martinawa rough sketch submission], but can be mapped by only one person.
  
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==== Suburbio ====
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Suburbs are secondary centers related to other larger cities. They will be approved with a [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/Martinawa rough sketch request] that makes the relation to the main city clear.
  
My proposal:
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==== Pueblo importante ====
[[File:Lithium-Castellan-Coast-Plan.png|thumb|center|Lithium-Ion's Plan.]]
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Will be approved [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/Martinawa at request] - No plan required.
The changes could be more drastic than this - perhaps turning the entire southern peninsula into islands, among other things. --[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 02:40, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 
  
I had some ideas for the coastline of Eastern Castellán. All of them involve both a new strait to close the "Mediterranean" sea, and new, bigger islands to form an archipelago.
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==== Pueblo ====
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Will be approved [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/Martinawa at request] - No plan required.
  
* Proposal one - Northern strait:
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==== Pueblo menor ====
- Keep and expand the Mariola Islands from its current position
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Will be approved [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/Martinawa at request] - No plan required.
  
- Make a strait into the "Mediterranean" in the position of current Escuderos, Takora.
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=== Assigned towns and cities ===
  
- Keep the Murica peninsula, making it narrower and more prominent (or maybe open it up into an island?)
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* [https://opengeofiction.net/node/283221233#map=14/37.4052/65.0252&layers=B Maldonado] to [[User:BMSOUZA|BMSOUZA]]
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* [https://opengeofiction.net/node/283221256#map=16/37.4915/63.7807&layers=B Rivamuca] to [[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]]
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* [https://www.opengeofiction.net/node/283220649#map=16/37.6947/64.8572&layers=B Villafranca del Carante] to [[User:Brunanter|Brunanter]]
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* [https://opengeofiction.net/node/283221222#map=16/37.9570/64.3963&layers=B "Villanueva de Orñán"] to [[User:Kalh79|Kalh79]]
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* [https://opengeofiction.net/node/283221273#map=16/37.8406/64.0099&layers=B San Martín de la Peña] to [[User:Bixelkoven|Bixelkoven]]
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* [https://opengeofiction.net/node/283221276 "Ciudad Mediana"] to [[User:Davieerr|Davieerr]]
  
[[File:Castellan coast north strait.png|thumb|center|Northern strait plan]]
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=== Provincial capital proposals ===
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Submit your proposals for the provincial capital here.
  
* Proposal two - Southern strait:
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== Regional Mapping ==
**Cede the Mariola Islands off the territory, creating instead a new, bigger archipelago where Catania used to be.
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**Reposition the Murica peninsula further north, making a strait into the Mediterranan next to the Franquese exclave near Vaucargue, Lustria
 
  
[[File:Castellan coast south strait.png|thumb|center|Southern strait plan]]
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== Castellanese Symbols ==
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''This is part of the project for the Collab of the Month, September 2022''
  
* Proposal three - Double straits:
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=== Flag of Castellán ===
**Make the two straits proposed above, although less narrow
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Here you can post any ideas you have for a flag for Castellán. You can be as creative as you want, but should also explain the symbolism you decided for the flag. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 14:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
**Cede the Mariola Islands, make a new archipelago in the new sea/gulf between the straits
 
**Keep the Murica cape vestigially
 
  
[[File:Castellan coast two straits.png|thumb|center|Double straits plan]]
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'''BMSouza proposals'''
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[[File:Proposal_Castellan1_BMSouza.png|400px|thumb|right|BMSouza proposal]] Here are my proposals.
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*Keeping the spanish red and gold colours, but in a very different style from the RW spanish flag.
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**I prefer these concept because these colours keep in mind of any mapper about the RW Spain, as Castellán is inspired. Not like Nederlands, well-known by the orange colour even if this colour is not in the national flag - also like Italy, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, all of them also known by colours they don't keep in their national flags;
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**Anyway, as seen, there are more "clean" options. (Hey! White is not in the RW spanish flag! Yes, I know... Anyway, I keep the spanish red and gold colours, even with a prominent white)
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*I set a coat of arms in the flags, bringing some more detail;
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**Also like the RW spanish flag;
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*First and last options looks a bit... "british"? Well, I would say they looks a bit... "imperial", hehehe    ;-)
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*Particularly, I prefer the second option in the first line. That one with a bicolour diagonal stripe going up;
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*What do you say?  --  [[User:BMSOUZA|BMSOUZA]] ([[User talk:BMSOUZA|talk]]) 04:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
  
These are rough sketches proposed as concepts and can be discussed further. Personally I like the incorporation of the Mariola Islands on the northern strait alternative. What I definitely have in mind is that Castellán should have bigger islands than it has now, and this is the ideal area for them to be placed.--[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 18:01, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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=== Coat of Arms of Castellán ===
:I like all of the proposals but if I remember well the whole point behind Mediterranean Sea was to justify colonisation of other continents by important world powers, namely Franqueterre and Plevia. Marmara or Gibraltar solutions effectively break that plan in pieces. making the Mediterranean functionally similar to the Black Sea. [[User:Rustem Pasha|Rustem Pasha]] ([[User talk:Rustem Pasha|talk]]) 18:44, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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Here you can post any ideas you have for a coat of arms for Castellán. You can be as creative as you want, but should also explain the symbolism you decided for the flag. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 14:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
::I agree with Rustem, the idea was to not have straits between ocean and sea. I wouldnt change the eastern coast too much (I mostly like the shape the country has) just enough to make it not link to the rw Spanish reference. I like Lithiums proposal most, but I wouldnt overdo it with the islands. The thing about Coastellans coastline that bothers me the most is the area around Malgazan (which I would do somewhat like [[:File: Malgazan coast proposal.jpeg|this]], the way it initially was before it got changed a few years back to what it is now.) —[[User:Stjur|Stjur]] ([[User talk:Stjur|talk]]) 23:06, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 
::: I agree that there might be a few too many islands in my plan  - I think that those that should be 100% kept if a version of it ends up being accepted would be the southernmost and northernmost groups. The southernmost to continue the island chain in the area - perhaps Martinawa's first idea could be used for those? The northernmost because the Mediterranean is rather lacking in islands that aren't very close to the coast right now,  so there's plenty of room to add some interest to the sea. Perhaps the two northernmost islands could be reminiscent and close in size to Menorca and Ibiza.  --[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 01:45, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 
:::: I guess if the idea was to not have straits at all the best course of action from the options I have proposed would be the first one, without the strait, placing the coastline roughly where the current one currently is (maybe even keeping it, that part of the coastline is relatively original as is). --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 16:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 
::::: Maybe a good course of action would be a merger of your first plan and my plan? Keeping the southern part of yours and the northern part of mine, probably. --[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 20:44, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 
  
===Orography suggestions===
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'''BMSouza proposal'''
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[[File:Proposal_Castellan0_BMSouza.png|400px|thumb|rightt|BMSouza proposal]]H ere is my proposal.
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*There is a crown, representing the royalty (is Castellan a kingdom?);
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**I consider to include details in this crown - some jewelry would be nice, but currently I only am using a simple crown I tried to use in another medieval-style badges, hehehe;
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*A stripe with the name of the country (a national motto, if existing, would not fit well in this size, hehehe), written using an old-style font;
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*Inside the badge, there is a half with blue and gold stripes - changing one colour (red to blue) and rotating the stripes from the real Catalunya/ Valencia/ Baleares/ Aragon flags;
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*Also inside the badge, in the right half, there is a lion head, representing some royal family. This part uses again the national colours;
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*A laurel wreath - no specific explanation, just looks nice in a coat of arms, hehehe;
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*What do you say?  --  [[User:BMSOUZA|BMSOUZA]] ([[User talk:BMSOUZA|talk]]) 04:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
  
As we will be working with pretty much a blank canvas, we accept suggestions on how the orography (mountains, rivers, plains, basins, plateaus, etc...) of Castellán should look like. They should have a signifficant degree of independence with whatever the coastline ends up being, and should be rather schematic, as they will be the basis for later development. Like before, please post any suggestions below.
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'''Huachachi Proposals'''
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[[File:Hua Cast Coat Proposal 1.png|400px|left|thumb|Huachachi Proposal 1]] [[File:Hua Cast Coat Proposal 2.png|400px|right|thumb|Huachachi Proposal 2]] We can see a coat of arms in a very European style. The shape is circular with little cells in it for smaller emblems. We also see an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe Astrolabe] that only shows the outer ring on the first proposal and also includes the measurement tool on the second proposal. On the top, we can see a crown composed of a castle shape on the bottom and a real crown shape on top. For the emblems, we have first the Castle, that represents the country of Castellán itself. After this we see the lion, another important element on Hispanic emblems. The two next symbols we can talk about are the cross and the muslim moon. This shows the past religious history of the country and the struggle between the Christianity and Islam on the region and a reference to medieval times. Next in line we see the conquistador helmet and the compass. These two represent the colonial history of the country and their impact on the ogf world. On the sides, we see two eagles facing the exterior. These two have the meaning of representing the imperial past, but also they sort of defend the interior of the coat. To make it look more secure. And at last we have two cells with crossed red lines. I’ll just leave this like it is and we can find a meaning if we want. Could be something related to royal families or a territory. In the second proposal we also see the castle symbol in the bottom and in the centre the letters Alpha and Omega, to symbolise the start and end of all things and also some Christian importance in medieval times.
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[[User:Huachachi|Huachachi]] 23:45, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
  
My proposal:
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== Toponomy Ideas ==
[[File:Lithium-Castellan-Orography-Plan.png|thumb|center|Lithium-Ion's Plan]]
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''This is part of the project for the Collab of the Month, September 2022''
Rivers are just to give an idea of basins and how much there might be in any area. It's pretty rough, so a lot of changes could be made. --[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 02:40, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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Here you can send any ideas you might have for toponyms in Castellán. Anything is allowed: Names for mountains, rivers, regions, capes, city names you might find interesting all around the mapped features on the map. Please send a link of the area where you might want the name to be in. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 14:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
  
Huachachi ideas:
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'''BMSouza Proposals'''
  
Have tall mountain range between Castellán and Mperiye/Sathriada. This two countries are very different and we should have a border difficult to cross in ancient times. That way we could explain why the countries have so much differences and no influence in each other.
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Well, here I list some names that, looks spanish enough to me, hehehe. All of them, intended to name cities or towns.
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*Valverde
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*Olivarría
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*Vallerrubio
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*Palma del Mar
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*Miraflor
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*Villalba
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*Puerto Vallejo
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[[User:BMSOUZA|BMSOUZA]] ([[User talk:BMSOUZA|talk]]) 01:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
  
I am going to send here my ideas for Castellán. They are pretty diverse and could work in some sense, and I want to see what the ideas from other people align in this proposals.
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==Natural Mapping==
  
First, these are the mountain ranges that I would keep regardless of the plan:
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'''The natural mapping phase of Castellán is ongoing. Anyone who is interested in doing natural mapping of a region with a mediterranean climate, follow the instructions that will be given below.'''
  
[[File:Castellan orography base.png|thumb|center|Base Orography proposal]]
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For better organisation, anyone who wants to map natural features should [https://opengeofiction.net/message/new/Martinawa contact Martinawa] for authorisation. In the message, you may show prior work you have done on natural landcover as an indication of your skills.
  
The mountain ranges on the borders both with Mazan and Sathria would be kept (No idea on how the border works on Mazan, if it's in the top of the range or somewhere else, but still a good idea to keep some mountains there). The border with Sathria would host the highest mountains (In the place where the Egyt mountains used to be, should we reuse that name?). The area where those mountain ranges meet would be a kind of hilly plateau. It could be interesting to play with some unique geological features in that area (lakes, volcanos, large waterfalls, ice-shaped landforms in the highest areas...) It also makes sense to me for the southeastern tip to have a mountain range, as the coastline arrangement, not only in Castellán, but in the lands around it, suggests a big geological fold in the area.
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After you've been given authorisation, you will be given a georreferenced file with the orography sketched (shown below) to use as a base for the natural cover. '''Before starting landcover you should make a boundary area, with admin_level=4, in the area you want to work on.''' This might be used in the future for the administrative divisions of the country, so please be creative about it. The area marked should be between 25000 and 50000 square kilometers, roughly. The idea for the landcover is to indicate only non-agricultural landuses: that is: forests, scrubs, bare rock, cliffs, marshes, wetlands, and such. Do not use grass or farmlands, especially in the flatter areas, as these will be dealt with later in the development of the country, after the settlements have been decided. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 22:50, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
  
* Idea 1: Parallel arrangement.
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'''Users currently authorised to edit in the country:'''
  
All rivers and mountain ranges would generally follow the general direction of the peninsula, that is, east to west, probably deriving from a large, old fold (think the Appalachians in the US, maybe larger in both size and height). In-between the folds would sit the river basins, that would generally flow west-to-east.
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* Martinawa ([https://opengeofiction.net/relation/311106 "Región del Sero"], Northeast)
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* Kalh79 ([https://opengeofiction.net/relation/216746 "Área de Preservación"], Northwest)
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* Lithium-Ion ([https://opengeofiction.net/relation/287793 "Región Occidental"], west)
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'''Users who have contributed to already finshed regions:'''
  
[[File:Castellan orography parallel.png|thumb|center|Parallel arrangement]]
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* Bixelkoven ([https://opengeofiction.net/relation/287116 "Región del Cabo"], southeast)
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* Martinawa ([https://opengeofiction.net/relation/286175 "Región Primera"], [https://opengeofiction.net/relation/287092 "Región Segunda"], [https://opengeofiction.net/relation/292067 "Región Noreste"], and [https://opengeofiction.net/relation/301330 "Región del Este"], north and northeast.)
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* Rustem Pasha ([https://opengeofiction.net/relation/310478 "Región Turquesa"], west)
  
* Idea 2: Radial arrangement.
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==Physical planning==
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Here we will discuss and suggest what the Castellán physical geography will look like.
  
This would feature a large, tall mountain chain or massif in the center of the country, from which all major basins would radiate from. Some minor ranges around some trams of the coast would have secondary ranges along them to more carefully justify their shapes. Geologically, the easiest justification for such a configuration would be volcanism, which would make Castellán a country prominent for its volcanoes. My idea would be similar (but again, bigger) to the Central Massif in France.
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'''As the Cleanup phase is finished for now, I'm going to close off proposals for physical plannings soon as we try to work out the final result. This is a shout-out to give people who have had ideas for coastline and physical geography an opportunity to post their suggestions now, as there's going to be an election of the final physical geography of Castellán soon''' --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 05:06, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
  
[[File:Castellan orography radial.png|thumb|center|Radial arrangement]]
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===Orography sketch===
  
* Idea 3: Perpendicular arrangement.
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After seeing all sent proposals and having reflected onto them and adapting to the new coast, I have made some temptative orography for Castellán as a base. The amount of detail shown is because this is procedurally generated (except for the rivers), but all mapping here shouldn't be followed very closely and treated more like a broad idea of what the country is going to be like, as things like scale and detail might just not be right for the size of the country given the features. The general idea, with a western plateau and parallel mountain ranges going roughly east to west, with graben-like plains in between. Placing is mostly inspired on the shape of the coastline. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 01:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
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[[File:Castellan topo idea.png|800px|center|Base Orography proposal]]
  
This one would rely on a large mountain chain north of the country, running along the coast, with a gentle southwards slope, creating small mountain ranges between the river basins. That would create a rather rugged terrain in general, as geologically it should be explained by a large sedimentary plateau that's been carved out over time by the rivers flowing down on it. Lots of terraced terrain, and a relatively low average height outside the main mountain ranges. The soil should be very soft to allow for this kind of orography, so have in mind this when considering it (unless there is a better solution for such a terrain geologically)
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:How high do you think the tallest mountains would be? Maybe that northern range could have a few noticeable "offshoots" or parallel ridges like the Alps, since it's the southernmost part of a large mountain range similar to them. Otherwise looks really nice, no complaints at all.--[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 01:20, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
  
[[File:Castellan orography perpendicular.png|thumb|center|Perpendicular arrangement]]
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==Cleanup==
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'''The cleanup phase is now finished. Please head to later sections to know about the state of the collaboration and to know what to do on it. The areas you might see on the map that are not blanked are intentionally so and will be treated specially by the coordinators for now.'''
  
--[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 20:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
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The first stage mapping-wise will be the complete clean-up of the mapping of Castellán. All mapping previous to the setting of the collaborative stage is expected to be removed. The only mapping that will be pre-emptively conserved will be whatever is on the border with Mazan, specially land cover that spans both countries. Coastline is not to be changed either yet. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 23:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
  
:I would personally leave the mountain ranges where they are, after all I've created them that way. They play a role in the shape of the country and the Mediterranean Sea (all the coastlines north of Catania are drawn by me) and are continuations of bigger mountain ranges coming from Alora and Gobrassanya --[[User:Stjur|Stjur]] ([[User talk:Stjur|talk]]) 17:24, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
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:Many thanks to TCC and Rustem for helping clean up the area. You three have done a great job, and the help is very appreciated! &mdash; [[User:Alessa|Alessa]] <sub>([[User talk:Alessa|talk]])</sub> 15:33, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
::Do you have any schematics of them? Despite being the current arrangement, the forest covers will have to be basically remade, so it would be a good idea to know what was the general structure of it. Or if it matches one of my suggestions, you can point it out. --[[User:Martinawa|Martinawa]] ([[User talk:Martinawa|talk]]) 23:34, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 
:::They can be seen here: https://old.opengeofiction.wiki/index.php/OGF:Map_of_known_mountains - something along these lines: https://i.imgur.com/9IDHU2w.png --[[User:Stjur|Stjur]] ([[User talk:Stjur|talk]]) 07:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 08:33, 24 September 2022

ForumsOfficial collaboratives → Official collaboratives/Castellán


This the Forum official discussion page for the Castellán collaborative project. Any questions, suggestions, feedback, and discussions will be held here. For more info on the state of the collab, please go to the collab page --Martinawa (talk) 00:31, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

¡Sentíos libres de escribir en Español, si así os sentís más cómodos!

Urban Mapping

This is part of the project for the Collab of the Month, September 2022

After the Regional mapping for the first province has been decided and mapped (congratulations to Bixelkoven!), we will move to the urban mapping of the area. This is the system we will use for the mapping of towns and cities in the area:

Before starting on the urban breakdown, I'd reccomend to use this resource to try and make an idea of what do you want your Castellan city to look like.

IMPORTANT: For organisation purposes, please specify which town of city you want to map so I can reserve it for you, so we don't end up having several people mapping on a single town by mistake. Also, do not map before I give you permission to do so. Look at the list of towns and cities assigned below for more details. --Martinawa (talk) 13:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Capital Provincial

It will be mapped collaboratively, and planned in a similar fashion as the province: Submissions will be sent, and a vote will be held. Unlike the regional mapping, though, that was more definitive, this will be focused on the style of mapping that will be carried out in each part of the country, maybe with the definition of some main elements like main roads and similar areas. Afterwards, the city will be mapped in a collaborative fashion, with different parts and stages of the city potentially mapped by different users.

Area to be planned collaboratively

Ciudad importante

These will be mapped at the request of users, but having into account that more than one user can be mapping into such cities, due to their size. Proposals for these cities will be approved at request if they're good enough, and can be mapped right away. They will be featured in the wiki article, in case others want to join the mapping of the city.

Ciudad mediana

These will also require a rough sketch submission, but can be mapped by only one person.

Suburbio

Suburbs are secondary centers related to other larger cities. They will be approved with a rough sketch request that makes the relation to the main city clear.

Pueblo importante

Will be approved at request - No plan required.

Pueblo

Will be approved at request - No plan required.

Pueblo menor

Will be approved at request - No plan required.

Assigned towns and cities

Provincial capital proposals

Submit your proposals for the provincial capital here.

Regional Mapping


Castellanese Symbols

This is part of the project for the Collab of the Month, September 2022

Flag of Castellán

Here you can post any ideas you have for a flag for Castellán. You can be as creative as you want, but should also explain the symbolism you decided for the flag. --Martinawa (talk) 14:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

BMSouza proposals

BMSouza proposal

Here are my proposals.

  • Keeping the spanish red and gold colours, but in a very different style from the RW spanish flag.
    • I prefer these concept because these colours keep in mind of any mapper about the RW Spain, as Castellán is inspired. Not like Nederlands, well-known by the orange colour even if this colour is not in the national flag - also like Italy, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, all of them also known by colours they don't keep in their national flags;
    • Anyway, as seen, there are more "clean" options. (Hey! White is not in the RW spanish flag! Yes, I know... Anyway, I keep the spanish red and gold colours, even with a prominent white)
  • I set a coat of arms in the flags, bringing some more detail;
    • Also like the RW spanish flag;
  • First and last options looks a bit... "british"? Well, I would say they looks a bit... "imperial", hehehe ;-)
  • Particularly, I prefer the second option in the first line. That one with a bicolour diagonal stripe going up;
  • What do you say? -- BMSOUZA (talk) 04:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Coat of Arms of Castellán

Here you can post any ideas you have for a coat of arms for Castellán. You can be as creative as you want, but should also explain the symbolism you decided for the flag. --Martinawa (talk) 14:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

BMSouza proposal

BMSouza proposal

H ere is my proposal.

  • There is a crown, representing the royalty (is Castellan a kingdom?);
    • I consider to include details in this crown - some jewelry would be nice, but currently I only am using a simple crown I tried to use in another medieval-style badges, hehehe;
  • A stripe with the name of the country (a national motto, if existing, would not fit well in this size, hehehe), written using an old-style font;
  • Inside the badge, there is a half with blue and gold stripes - changing one colour (red to blue) and rotating the stripes from the real Catalunya/ Valencia/ Baleares/ Aragon flags;
  • Also inside the badge, in the right half, there is a lion head, representing some royal family. This part uses again the national colours;
  • A laurel wreath - no specific explanation, just looks nice in a coat of arms, hehehe;
  • What do you say? -- BMSOUZA (talk) 04:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Huachachi Proposals

Huachachi Proposal 1
Huachachi Proposal 2

We can see a coat of arms in a very European style. The shape is circular with little cells in it for smaller emblems. We also see an Astrolabe that only shows the outer ring on the first proposal and also includes the measurement tool on the second proposal. On the top, we can see a crown composed of a castle shape on the bottom and a real crown shape on top. For the emblems, we have first the Castle, that represents the country of Castellán itself. After this we see the lion, another important element on Hispanic emblems. The two next symbols we can talk about are the cross and the muslim moon. This shows the past religious history of the country and the struggle between the Christianity and Islam on the region and a reference to medieval times. Next in line we see the conquistador helmet and the compass. These two represent the colonial history of the country and their impact on the ogf world. On the sides, we see two eagles facing the exterior. These two have the meaning of representing the imperial past, but also they sort of defend the interior of the coat. To make it look more secure. And at last we have two cells with crossed red lines. I’ll just leave this like it is and we can find a meaning if we want. Could be something related to royal families or a territory. In the second proposal we also see the castle symbol in the bottom and in the centre the letters Alpha and Omega, to symbolise the start and end of all things and also some Christian importance in medieval times.

Huachachi 23:45, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Toponomy Ideas

This is part of the project for the Collab of the Month, September 2022

Here you can send any ideas you might have for toponyms in Castellán. Anything is allowed: Names for mountains, rivers, regions, capes, city names you might find interesting all around the mapped features on the map. Please send a link of the area where you might want the name to be in. --Martinawa (talk) 14:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

BMSouza Proposals

Well, here I list some names that, looks spanish enough to me, hehehe. All of them, intended to name cities or towns.

  • Valverde
  • Olivarría
  • Vallerrubio
  • Palma del Mar
  • Miraflor
  • Villalba
  • Puerto Vallejo

BMSOUZA (talk) 01:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Natural Mapping

The natural mapping phase of Castellán is ongoing. Anyone who is interested in doing natural mapping of a region with a mediterranean climate, follow the instructions that will be given below.

For better organisation, anyone who wants to map natural features should contact Martinawa for authorisation. In the message, you may show prior work you have done on natural landcover as an indication of your skills.

After you've been given authorisation, you will be given a georreferenced file with the orography sketched (shown below) to use as a base for the natural cover. Before starting landcover you should make a boundary area, with admin_level=4, in the area you want to work on. This might be used in the future for the administrative divisions of the country, so please be creative about it. The area marked should be between 25000 and 50000 square kilometers, roughly. The idea for the landcover is to indicate only non-agricultural landuses: that is: forests, scrubs, bare rock, cliffs, marshes, wetlands, and such. Do not use grass or farmlands, especially in the flatter areas, as these will be dealt with later in the development of the country, after the settlements have been decided. --Martinawa (talk) 22:50, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

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Physical planning

Here we will discuss and suggest what the Castellán physical geography will look like.

As the Cleanup phase is finished for now, I'm going to close off proposals for physical plannings soon as we try to work out the final result. This is a shout-out to give people who have had ideas for coastline and physical geography an opportunity to post their suggestions now, as there's going to be an election of the final physical geography of Castellán soon --Martinawa (talk) 05:06, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Orography sketch

After seeing all sent proposals and having reflected onto them and adapting to the new coast, I have made some temptative orography for Castellán as a base. The amount of detail shown is because this is procedurally generated (except for the rivers), but all mapping here shouldn't be followed very closely and treated more like a broad idea of what the country is going to be like, as things like scale and detail might just not be right for the size of the country given the features. The general idea, with a western plateau and parallel mountain ranges going roughly east to west, with graben-like plains in between. Placing is mostly inspired on the shape of the coastline. --Martinawa (talk) 01:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Base Orography proposal
How high do you think the tallest mountains would be? Maybe that northern range could have a few noticeable "offshoots" or parallel ridges like the Alps, since it's the southernmost part of a large mountain range similar to them. Otherwise looks really nice, no complaints at all.--Lithium-Ion (talk) 01:20, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Cleanup

The cleanup phase is now finished. Please head to later sections to know about the state of the collaboration and to know what to do on it. The areas you might see on the map that are not blanked are intentionally so and will be treated specially by the coordinators for now.

The first stage mapping-wise will be the complete clean-up of the mapping of Castellán. All mapping previous to the setting of the collaborative stage is expected to be removed. The only mapping that will be pre-emptively conserved will be whatever is on the border with Mazan, specially land cover that spans both countries. Coastline is not to be changed either yet. --Martinawa (talk) 23:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks to TCC and Rustem for helping clean up the area. You three have done a great job, and the help is very appreciated! — Alessa (talk) 15:33, 23 December 2021 (UTC)