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Thanks, [[User:Arlo|Arlo]] ([[User talk:Arlo|talk]]) 00:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Arlo
 
Thanks, [[User:Arlo|Arlo]] ([[User talk:Arlo|talk]]) 00:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Arlo
  
Hey Arlo,
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::Hey Arlo,
  
A bit of background, I am a mapper originally from Adelaide, though now I live rurally in Tailem Bend which has given me an insight into rural mapping. So I was thinking, if not mallee scrub, at least farm plains similar to the area of tailem bend, minus the scrub. I've mapped out towns such as Coonalpyn & Callington on main OSM. Would gum trees be realistic for the region or would it be the taller pines of the borderlands in SA/VIC, let me know and I can map those.
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::A bit of background, I am a mapper originally from Adelaide, though now I live rurally in Tailem Bend which has given me an insight into rural mapping. So I was thinking, if not mallee scrub, at least farm plains similar to the area of tailem bend, minus the scrub. I've mapped out towns such as Coonalpyn & Callington on main OSM. Would gum trees be realistic for the region or would it be the taller pines of the borderlands in SA/VIC, let me know and I can map those.
  
I'd love to coordinate geography and have most natural features planned out as that is usually the biggest headache for me at the start of any project. The local history will also be interesting to integrate and I'm willing to work around that.
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::I'd love to coordinate geography and have most natural features planned out as that is usually the biggest headache for me at the start of any project. The local history will also be interesting to integrate and I'm willing to work around that.
  
Here's what the territory terrain looks like in my vision, but you can advise me on any changes to the fauna and main land use:
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::Here's what the territory terrain looks like in my vision, but you can advise me on any changes to the fauna and main land use:
  
[https://www.realestate.com.au/news-image/w_1280,h_720/v1692240964/news-lifestyle-content-assets/wp-content/production/capi_954bd8b61a2f00259450545500535f40_df33d240b17f06a9066362c05fe4a59f.jpeg?_i=AA https://www.realestate.com.au/news-image/w_1280,h_720/v1692240964/news-lifestyle-content-assets/wp-content/production/capi_954bd8b61a2f00259450545500535f40_df33d240b17f06a9066362c05fe4a59f.jpeg]
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::[https://www.realestate.com.au/news-image/w_1280,h_720/v1692240964/news-lifestyle-content-assets/wp-content/production/capi_954bd8b61a2f00259450545500535f40_df33d240b17f06a9066362c05fe4a59f.jpeg?_i=AA https://www.realestate.com.au/news-image/w_1280,h_720/v1692240964/news-lifestyle-content-assets/wp-content/production/capi_954bd8b61a2f00259450545500535f40_df33d240b17f06a9066362c05fe4a59f.jpeg]
  
I also understand what you mean about provinces, not states.
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::I also understand what you mean about provinces, not states.
  
'''Sketch''': https://ibb.co/j6rmcxk
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::'''Sketch''': https://ibb.co/j6rmcxk
  
[[User:AustinBoath|AustinBoath]] ([[User talk:AustinBoath|talk]]) 04:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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::[[User:AustinBoath|AustinBoath]] ([[User talk:AustinBoath|talk]]) 04:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
  
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:::Thanks for the reply Austin. A fertile Riverlands climate is a better fit for the province we think and thank you for the regional information (I live in Adelaide as well). I would also say a climate such as the Flerieu peninsula but less hilly would also be a good area to reference.
  
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:::Some important notes for your sketch map, we have a national motorway network (TDH) with a map you can find attached [[File:TDHprop.svg|350px|thumb|left|Official layout of the Trans Deodecan Highway network. ]]. This works nicely with your road layout already. Another point is that there is also a High Speed Rail network as well and there is a route planned from Kingstown to Creswick, which would run through your province. As such, this should be considered for rail infrastructure along the main motorway.
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:::If you'd like, you can join us on a Discord group where we can further discuss these points and also where you can chat with your neighbours to the north and east. Peralia's mapper has some riverland-esque plans for the south of his province, so you two would likely want to coordinate on that. Let me know
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::: [[User:Arlo|Arlo]] ([[User talk:Arlo|talk]]) 07:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Arlo
  
 
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ForumsTerritory application → Territory application/AR060-11 - Kintinara


Please fill in the information below to make a territory request.
Noun Project Signature icon 619326 cc.svgTerritory ID and proposed name
The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country


AR060-11 - East Deodeca (Inspired by South Australia in the greater country of Australia.)


I understand there may be some concerns with this naming, so how about Ferland, named after the settlers for how fertile the land is.

Noun Project Map icon 1463108.svgPhysical geography
An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. It is advised to also create a sketch, you can add a link to this (hosted on imgur or similar)


The latitude is similar to Mount Gambier, South Australia. Therefore, the climate will be lush mediterranean with mild winters with a high temp of 10-14°c and a low temp ranging from 4-6°c overnight. During summer, days frequently are over 30°c in the area. The trees will be eucalyptus trees and mallee terrain. The largest city will be similar to Adelaide. There will be no outback mapping unlike the real South Australia, given the fact that it isn't high enough latitude to be in the outback. In this way, most of the terrain will resemble agriculture south of the Goyder's Line, a line meant to demarcate where agriculture is no longer viable that was created in real South Australia.

The largest city is surrounded by small hills, the tallest being 692m above sea level.

Invest - The Noun Project.svgHuman geography
A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style


It's centric on one city with most of the population living there. 75% of the 1,200,000 people in this state will live in the biggest city, with other smaller towns serving as agriculture centers, as that is the main industry with a few mines and industrial parks scattered around rural areas. These will be linked by road to the biggest city, or state capital. In the state, there will only be one rail line which will come from interstate, keeping it realistic to railway infrastructure in Australia, with a few disused old lines that were replaced by road transport mapped out, some of them turning into cycling rail trails and some only being notable by the dirt track aligned with the old train line.

Noun Project languages icon 105908 cc.svgHistory & culture
A brief description of the intended culture and language


60,000 years ago: Ngaringa people arrive

1803: Land surveyed by Ingerish settlers

1806: Largest city founded

1810: Colony declared, it's for free settlers

1830: Copper mining boom about 115km east of the largest city, which forms a town that exists today

1850: Gold discovered in other state (TBD) of Deodeca, mass migration occurs and state tries to keep economy stable as people leave to strike it big.

1901: Largest city hits 100,000 population

1972: Population expected to boom, state government acquires land in order to build a planned city

1983: Projections not as expected, land is sold back with most of it becoming industrial park and the rest becomes (possibly an outdoor mental health retreat, prison or military base).

2010: Population does finally boom, and housing developments occur in a hills town

Today: town bottlenecked by an insufficient freeway, talks of a metro line extension, but overall a bustling (mostly) rural state with a stable economy.


Language is Ingerish (obviously to align with the rest of Deodeca). Our culture is similar to the rest of Deodeca, we do love drinking Harvey's Iced Coffee which is a local brand though and that is our state's patriotism. The state government has a tourism-oriented department as well which encourages people to go on camping trips and enjoy wineries.

Noun Project drawing icon 2123401.svgPast mapping
To support your request provide links to areas of OGF mapping which showcase your mapping skill. Mapping relevant to the requested theme & geography is especially useful
The {{coord}} template can optionally be used to link to the OGF map - it results in a nice formatted link. Or you can paste in a URL.


Well, I did participate in bad faith and create an Australia style country in the past, though this was poor on my part as I didn't own the territory I developed. I would like to apologise for this and take a more patient and respectful route to obtain a territory.

Whyalla type town: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=13/13.6738/-107.6820&layers=5

Canberra prototype: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/13.4136/-107.5828&layers=5

A bit of highway example: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/13.4561/-107.4289&layers=5


NOTE: This map has since been removed so to view it you need to use the 'OSM Carto (05 Testing)' mirror.

Noun Project Signature icon 619326 cc.svgUsername & date
Sign and date the application by typing four tildes like this: ~~~~


AustinBoath (talk) 10:46, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Noun project 579150 Conversation.svgDiscussion
Discussion for clarification & decision


Hi there Austin,

I’m Arlo on behalf of the wider Deodeca community. We just had some points we’d like to make about your application:

  • They are called provinces and not states in Deodeca
  • We would love if you could make even a rudimentary map just to show the outline of what you’re planning
  • We have developed our own local history that you can coordinate with to help align -11 to neighbouring provinces histories
  • We’d like to coordinate with you on the geography of the area so you know what is already there and what you can add. We also don’t think that mallee” scrubs are appropriate for the area. Deodeca is very temperate and receives high rainfall

Thanks, Arlo (talk) 00:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Arlo

Hey Arlo,
A bit of background, I am a mapper originally from Adelaide, though now I live rurally in Tailem Bend which has given me an insight into rural mapping. So I was thinking, if not mallee scrub, at least farm plains similar to the area of tailem bend, minus the scrub. I've mapped out towns such as Coonalpyn & Callington on main OSM. Would gum trees be realistic for the region or would it be the taller pines of the borderlands in SA/VIC, let me know and I can map those.
I'd love to coordinate geography and have most natural features planned out as that is usually the biggest headache for me at the start of any project. The local history will also be interesting to integrate and I'm willing to work around that.
Here's what the territory terrain looks like in my vision, but you can advise me on any changes to the fauna and main land use:
https://www.realestate.com.au/news-image/w_1280,h_720/v1692240964/news-lifestyle-content-assets/wp-content/production/capi_954bd8b61a2f00259450545500535f40_df33d240b17f06a9066362c05fe4a59f.jpeg
I also understand what you mean about provinces, not states.
Sketch: https://ibb.co/j6rmcxk
AustinBoath (talk) 04:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply Austin. A fertile Riverlands climate is a better fit for the province we think and thank you for the regional information (I live in Adelaide as well). I would also say a climate such as the Flerieu peninsula but less hilly would also be a good area to reference.
Some important notes for your sketch map, we have a national motorway network (TDH) with a map you can find attached
Official layout of the Trans Deodecan Highway network.
. This works nicely with your road layout already. Another point is that there is also a High Speed Rail network as well and there is a route planned from Kingstown to Creswick, which would run through your province. As such, this should be considered for rail infrastructure along the main motorway.
If you'd like, you can join us on a Discord group where we can further discuss these points and also where you can chat with your neighbours to the north and east. Peralia's mapper has some riverland-esque plans for the south of his province, so you two would likely want to coordinate on that. Let me know
Arlo (talk) 07:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Arlo