Forum:Territory application/UL11i - Sonnenburg

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Noun Project Signature icon 619326 cc.svgTerritory ID and proposed name
The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country

UL11i - Koninkrijk Sonnenburg

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An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. It is advised to also create a sketch, you can add a link to this (hosted on imgur or similar)


Sketch of the geography:

Description: In the south of the country, some small glaciers would be present (However I have no problem with them not being there if it doesn’t make sense), along with mountainous terrain in the dark green area in the south. In the central region there would be large plains with low elevation and mostly being filled with farmland.

On the north of the territory, some low regions would have some large lakes and barrier islands on the coast.


climate - DFB in the mountains and CFB in the plains and coastal areas.


Farms in the plains region

Other example of farms

Low tide coast

Glaciers/mountainous region

Steep mountain valleys

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A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style


This map shows how the population is distributed across the small territory, most of the population will be concentrated on the northern coast, with more opportunities of trade, meanwhile the interior, with many mountains and significant topography, will be more sparsely populated overall.


This territory will have a population of about 300k people and a gdp per capita of roughly 65,000 USD due to it being a microstate with a similar government, policies and economy with Luxembourg in real life.

Mapping style

Mapping style will be similar to Flanders, with the capital, Sonnenburg, having a very old city center.

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Culture would be very similar to Dutch and Flemish culture in the real world, and the language would be Dutch with a conlang dialect.

Brief History

I see the country’s past history as starting off as a very old kalmish/saxon equivalent settlement in the region, which would have its name deriving from saxon Smalaz burh. The territory would have been dominated many times in the past by Dutch kingdoms and being a puppet of Franqueterre shortly in ~1500 AD, when Atreisië was also under Franquese influence.

Modern day

Sonnenburg today is a representative democracy in the form of a constitutional monarchy.

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Past mapping

Passamaqueets, the territory I am willing to exchange, which will probably be annexed by Oakley

Older mapping in Michisaukee

Note: I did use to own a german territory (which got wiped), which gave me experience mapping older city centers, here are some pictures:

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What3089 (talk) 21:41, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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Discussion for clarification & decision

  • Hello. I will converse with Bixelkoven and discuss this. The premise of the territory fits well in the area, but the dossier of demonstrated mapping is non-existent. A few things that I want to point out first:
    1. In the chance this territory were to be granted, it would be in exchange for Passamaqueets. And, for clarity, Oakley would not be granted permission to annex it without going through the same process of territory acquisition that is required of everyone else.
    2. This would be your second territory exchange in a very short order, so please be sure that you really want this. You will not be able to keep bouncing around.
    3. In order to properly assess the mapping, I would like to see both some urban and some rural mapping that is clearly yours. The mapping of note in Passamaqueets predates your acquisition of the territory. What you have done there is not really considerable for this application (apart from the Nacksburg area). The two saved images of the old territory show only a few streets and buildings, probably no more than 100–200m across.
  • Given all this, I see two options forward: stick with your territory in the FSA and enjoy working with MiniMapper, which was your very, very recent request to do; or do some mapping, perhaps in nearby Lentia (Dutch-speaking) or in a blue area to demonstrate both urban and rural mapping. If you do elect to map in Lentia for a bit, you will need to contact Squizie first via OGF messaging.
  • Thank you very much. Happy mapping. — Alessa (talk) 23:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

- Hello again. I did map a lot of rural mapping in my past territory, I can find an image if that helps. About Minimapper annexing Passamaqueets, he will still make an application for it asking for the annexation, I just included that in the application because I thought the reply would take longer. Also I did map completely by myself the city of Linden in Michisaukee as well as this area, if that is not enough.

- I am so sorry for changing territories so fast, I will stick to this one for long, I considered it for a long time, I am sure of it.

What3089 (talk) 00:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

- I found some older pictures of my past territory, I mapped a lot rural areas so I here are some pictures I found on discord.

- This is some smaller scale mapping, but I also completely mapped this by myself in Fallsbury:

- If you know someway to see past versions of OGF I would really like to know so I can get more screenshots of my old territory, since I had a lot mapped there that I didnt take pictures of while it still existed.

- If the above is not enough, I am mapping a dutch inspired city in the BG territories, however, it isn't fully finished yet.

What3089 (talk) 00:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

This works for me! Thank you very much for taking some time to demonstrate what you're attempting. — Alessa (talk) 23:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Feather-core-check-square.svg Territory application approved
Approved as trade for FSA state.
Please take care to carefully work with neighbors to ensure cohesiveness in the region. — Alessa (talk) 23:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)