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==Yo!==
==2023 update==


It's been a year since I've claimed {{Grinzez}}'s territory, and I've been in a more solid position to work on it than last year, for sure. With that, here's some sandbox ("explainer") content for Grinzez and the surrounding region:
'''Please refer to the [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IXv2ZieByi2vB-zC17MKmivlUvYNz_wTVRYRZIMaJ0g/edit#gid=651229176 collaborative spreadsheet] for more updated content'''


===Starters===
===Starters===
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Knowledge-driven ideals and human capital continued to direct Grinzez. The Hretists' Council opened their first regional chapter in 1998. ST+GZ was formed in 2004 from a merger of various science and technology boards to enhance their integrated capabilities.  The Grinzian Technology Plan 2030 (Vision 0x7EE) would develop Grinzez's talent and research in computer science and information technologies for Northern Archanta.
Knowledge-driven ideals and human capital continued to direct Grinzez. The Hretists' Council opened their first regional chapter in 1998. ST+GZ was formed in 2004 from a merger of various science and technology boards to enhance their integrated capabilities.  The Grinzian Technology Plan 2030 (Vision 0x7EE) would develop Grinzez's talent and research in computer science and information technologies for Northern Archanta.
==Pyapyor Rail services==
https://pointochinikia.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Coshatiuav/Sandbox
===Sections under construction===
* '''2025''': Line 11 North
* '''2027''': Line 8 North (Nangfout-?), Line 7 South (Marpyan-?)
* '''2028''': Line 9 (Ranghom)
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}
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==Grinzian cuisine and ingredients==
===Local and mixed origin dishes===
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilli_crab Ketam mrek] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pepper_crab ketam cha mrich kemaw], chili or black pepper fried hard-shell crab.
* Porpia, fresh Bai spring rolls
* Pi feun,
* Saj thua, dried sausages
===Bai and Huayanic-inspired===
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtiao Cien kuéy] or yutiaw, not to be confused with kuéytiaw or flat rice noodles
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_siu Cruk sasiew] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siu_yuk siew saj cruk], char siew and roasted pork (shao rou)
===Melayish===
* Kapi, the Grinzian version of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrimp_paste shrimp paste]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayam_penyet Penhét mòen]
* Béjor, an adaption of [[wikipedia:Burmese fritters|Burmese fritters]]
* Naan
* Pratha, unleavened flatbread
===Snacks===
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_puff Còk pap], various types of baked puff pastries, the most famous being curry or epok-epok (kari)
*[[wikipedia:Bakpia|Sajpier]], various sweet or savoury baked pastries
* Vadéy
===Condiments===
* Tîk Sueng,
==Beverages==
* Kòfé
* Various beers or mo byè
* Sra sé, local rice wine
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==Random stuff==
==Random stuff==
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In the 1400s the imperial city, Bamareyer, was established, and this also lended its name to the term "Pamer Archantans" (I'm aware of the resemblance to RW Bamar or Burmese, oops)
In the 1400s the imperial city, Bamareyer, was established, and this also lended its name to the term "Pamer Archantans" (I'm aware of the resemblance to RW Bamar or Burmese, oops)


The unit of currency since 2004 is the Grinzian Pound (G£ or GP in local parlance), divided into 100 roythiems (Rt). The G£ is a redenomination of the pre-2004 Thiem at 1:10000 (roythiem meaning "hundred thiem"). In the real world its value can be compared to GBP.
The unit of currency since 2004 is the Grinzian Pound (GP or rarely G£), divided into 100 roythiems (Rt). The G£ is a redenomination of the pre-2004 Thiem at 1:10000 (roythiem meaning "hundred thiem"). In the real world its value can be compared to GBP.


==Languages==
==Languages==


My idea for the region is to create a group of Asian-sounding conlangs, particularly South East Asian, yet not based on any particular one. However, ''' consider the Austroasiatic languages (Khmer and Vietnamese) as the closest real-world matches'''. They have rather simple characteristics (no morphological cases, adjectives after nouns, Brahmi-inspired consonant system). I'm not sure how much I've managed to imitate these SEA languages in Grinzez, but I'm presently working on changing the existing names (which would take a while).  I've used Romanisation partially because of my obsession with transliteration and partially because of the difficulty of reading a conscript.  
My idea for the region is to create a group of Asian-sounding conlangs, particularly South East Asian, yet not based on any particular one. However, '''consider the Austroasiatic languages (Khmer and Vietnamese) as the closest real-world matches'''. They have rather simple characteristics (no morphological cases, adjectives after nouns, Brahmi-inspired consonant system). I'm not sure how much I've managed to imitate these SEA languages in Grinzez, but I'm presently working on changing the existing names (which would take a while).  I've used Romanisation partially because of my obsession with transliteration and partially because of the difficulty of reading a conscript.
 
I've always considered Grinzian to resemble [[wikipedia:Northern_Khmer_dialect|Northern Khmer]], because of its tendency to have final 'r's and preference of '-ə-'s over consonant clusters. For my ongoing work with the language, see my page in the [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IXv2ZieByi2vB-zC17MKmivlUvYNz_wTVRYRZIMaJ0g/edit#gid=651229176 collaborative spreadsheet].  


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As for orthography, it's pretty easy to read once you get the hang of it:
As for orthography, it's pretty easy to read once you get the hang of it:
* Vowels can come in either monographs (â é è î ó ò) or digraphs (oa ae ea eu oe ou), respectively. Full details can be found [https://conworkshop.com/view_language.php?l=GIZ here].
* Vowels can come in either monographs (â é è î ó ò ú) or digraphs (oa ae ea eu oe ou ui), respectively. It's an attempt to combine the Franquese (with some slight modifications) and Ingerish romanisations that were used historically. Full details can be found [https://conworkshop.com/view_language.php?l=GIZ here].
* Many consonats sound like their English equivalents, with some exceptions: the uvular q and x (French r), the palatal c, j and nh (ñ), and aspirated consonants are followed with an h: th, ph (not f), kh, ch.  
* Many consonats sound like their English equivalents, with some exceptions: the uvular q and x (French r), the palatal c, j and nh (ñ), and aspirated consonants are followed with an h: th, ph (not f), kh, ch.  


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** There is some allophony between /ɨ/ and /əu/ sometimes.
** There is some allophony between /ɨ/ and /əu/ sometimes.
** Some historical i's become a's, and a's become o's, which is pretty fun.
** Some historical i's become a's, and a's become o's, which is pretty fun.


[https://www.instagram.com/p/CM8iTe9nF-f/ Kroksin] is the official conscript of the Pameric languages. It's a '''featural abugida''' descended from the Mon-Burmese branch of Pallavi, with substantial changes so the graphemes represent vocal characteristics.
[https://www.instagram.com/p/CM8iTe9nF-f/ Kroksin] is the official conscript of the Pameric languages. It's a '''featural abugida''' descended from the Mon-Burmese branch of Pallavi, with substantial changes so the graphemes represent vocal characteristics.
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==Regional context==
==Regional context==
Like several Southeast Asian nations Grinzez is a conglomeration of various ethnic groups, and each state tends to have a unique cultural makeup. Because of this, states have considerable autonomy over their affairs.


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| Célvue /cel.vw(ə)h/||4.7 ||0.843 || A resource-rich inner state based on inland China.
| Célvue /cel.vw(ə)h/||4.7 ||0.843 || A resource-rich inner state based on inland China.
|-
|-
|Hithercèko /'hit(ə)ɹ.cɛkɔ/ ||5.0 ||0.947 ||A southern gateway city, in the ''Pearl River Delta'' style like Hong Kong or Shenzhen.
|Hikòhnavok /'hikoh.navɔk/ ||5.0 ||0.947 ||A southern gateway city, in the ''Pearl River Delta'' style like Hong Kong or Shenzhen.
|-
|-
| Hrontaem /'hɹɔn.te:m/ ||5.4  ||0.906 ||Hrontaem feels a bit more Euro-inspired than the rest, and is a mix of urban metropolises and quiter villages overall.
| Hrontaem /'hɹɔn.te:m/ ||5.4  ||0.906 ||Hrontaem feels a bit more Euro-inspired than the rest, and is a mix of urban metropolises and quiter villages overall.
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| Lomain /lɔmajn/ ||1.3  ||0.776 ||Like Laneur, Lomain is inspired by Dravidia, this time the state of Kerala.
| Lomain /lɔmajn/ ||1.3  ||0.776 ||Like Laneur, Lomain is inspired by Dravidia, this time the state of Kerala.
|-
|-
| Lokeuruet /'lɔkɯrwət/ ||1.2  ||0.823 ||A low-lying primarily agricultural state, with a Vietnamese style especially on the coast.
| Lokeuruet /'lɔkɯrwət/ ||1.2  ||0.823 ||A low-lying primarily agricultural state, with a Vietnamese style especially on the coast. It is home to the '''Khuun (RW Palaung)''' ethnic group which is separate from both Krin and Nakah.
|-
|-
| Pyapyor /'pjap.jɔɹ/ ||8.1  ||0.964 ||Pyapyor is obviously heavily based upon Singapore (hopefully even better than [[Khaiwoon]] is), though with a more inland nature. I also drew inspirations from London and Berlin (both very practical but sophisticated cities).
| Pyapyor /'pjap.jɔɹ/ ||8.1  ||0.964 ||Pyapyor is obviously heavily based upon Singapore (hopefully even better than [[Khaiwoon]] is), though with a more inland nature. I also drew inspirations from London and Berlin (both very practical but sophisticated cities).
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| Sènkchom /'sɛŋk.ʈʂɔm/ ||0.7  ||0.841 || TBA
| Sènkchom /'sɛŋk.ʈʂɔm/ ||0.7  ||0.841 || TBA
|-
|-
| Thretop /tɹe:tɔp/ ||3.9  ||0.926 ||Thretop is inspired by Taipei and KL, as a mountain-valley city of sorts. Planned are a university city and surrounding natural attractions/resorts.
| Threptop /tɹe:p.tɔp/ ||3.9  ||0.926 ||Thretop is inspired by Taipei and KL, as a mountain-valley city of sorts. Planned are a university city and surrounding natural attractions/resorts.
|-
|-
| Volúma /vɔlyma/ ||0.5  ||0.746 ||An inland state with Cambodian/Lao geography.
| Volúma /vɔlyma/ ||0.5  ||0.746 ||An inland state with Cambodian/Lao geography. Home of '''Laun (RW Kuy)''' people and languages.
|-
|-
| Weybaro /wɨj.baɹo/ ||1.5 ||0.724 ||Weybaro is the native-focused state of the region, with SE Asian settlements as inspiration.
| Weybaro /wɨj.baɹo/ ||1.5 ||0.724 ||Weybaro is the native-focused state of the region, with SE Asian settlements as inspiration.
|}
|}

Latest revision as of 08:49, 8 October 2023

2023 update

Please refer to the collaborative spreadsheet for more updated content

Starters

Firstly, I've noticed many people have not much knowledge of Grinzez, so it's essentially west of what would eventually become the Greater OGF:Bai Empire.

I'm not so much into worldbuilding or lore, so expect some pretty boring details.

Quick historical details

Lokeh Ages

The period from 1460 to 1723 was the most royalist in Grinzez's history.

Third Krin Empire

Fourth Krin Empire

The Fourth Krin Empire saw a significant boost in intellectual thought in Grinzez, paricularly with the humanist philosophical movement of "Hretism". Led by a group called the "Hretist Five", the project aimed to shift society away from what they saw as an overtly materialistic system, and overcoming the "human existential crisis" by declaring an aim of "human development and progress" as the ultimate societal goal. Meanwhile, studies of biology, astronomy and anatomy proliferated as the empire attempted to position itself more prominently. The culture was amazingly progressive - two of the Hretist Five were women.

......

The Fourth Empire began its fall in 1870, but first under increasing puppet control by the Yuet Dynasty. Then an anti-colonial movement grew, driven by Hretist writings and the poor treatment of ethnic minorities and rural areas. The anticolonials, supported by AR923 and Tauland (AR922?) groups, eventually overcame the Yuet, though ending imperial rule too in the process.

Early republicanism and seperatism, 1878 to 1939

Despite a brief attempt at republicanism, Grinzez faced increasing instability in the region. The weak government failed to achieve national unity and a 1885 coup created two main conflict regions: the nationalist north and socialist south.

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By the 1920s however, the left-leaning Democratic Krinsej now occupied the northeast regions, while the right-wing Provisionary Grinzian State occupied the south and west. The latter was formed after the fascist People's Republic of Grinzez was defeated in the Civil War of 1913. In the War of Fellow Brothers, Democratic Krinsej provided support for the anti-fascist coalition.

The Republic of Grinzez would be formed in 1939, after the fractured powers agreed to unite under a single state.

Democracy and developing years, 1940 to 1970

Plans were made to reinstate Mabéwa as the monarch, but he declined, calling the monarchy and imperialism “dead”. Thus, Grinzez became a parliamentary democracy. Much of the population was employed into manufacturing, education and construction to compensate for declining resources at that time.

In a monumental decision, the capital was moved to a cluster of small cities, located on the Mikten and Koster rivers, in 1960. This would become the Pyapyor capital territory.

As the economy grew, spending was nevertheless placed into social programs. Union regulations were relaxed progressively and the first capital gain and inheritance taxes were implemented. Some territories like Pyapyor implemented large state ownership of land, which allowed for affordable home ownership. Railways were significantly upgraded (though other lines were closed), with the first electrified services in 1956. The military also ramped up operations, with uncertain geopolitics resulting in conscription until the 1970s.

Economic powerhouse, 1970 to present

Grinzez's politics have been until now dominated by the United Front for Grinzez Party, which itself replaced the Alliance for Democracy in 1956. This would end when a coalition led by the National Judinals took power in 1977. The government has been accused of political suppression, including harassing members of the opposition, arresting troublemakers on minor technicalities to give them a criminal record, thus making them ineligible to vote or run for office.

By the 1980s, declining manufacturing sectors pushed the government to pursue more "knowledge-based" jobs. Large-scale urban redevelopments notably allowed for swift conversion of factory land use to commercial and office activities.

The Archantan Recession of 1990 (fellows take note) hit Grinzez significantly, but it also managed a quick recovery. Many credited the government but also criticized its increasing austerity measures. The government woould receive the first vote of no-confidence in Grinzian history in 1995. Disruptive protests, mostly led by the Propablika civil action group, also affected and resulted in modifications to some projects, such as the 1996 Archantan Economic Forum, 1997 Pameric Free Trade Agreement and Pyapyor Teranej Airport.

The Enakau Grinzez Party, having steadily gained support over the past decade, defeated the Judinals in 2004 with a majority. The new government pushed for reforms in democracy in a 2006 bill, advocated for human rights in the region, and infused more Hretist ideas into practical governance.

Knowledge-driven ideals and human capital continued to direct Grinzez. The Hretists' Council opened their first regional chapter in 1998. ST+GZ was formed in 2004 from a merger of various science and technology boards to enhance their integrated capabilities. The Grinzian Technology Plan 2030 (Vision 0x7EE) would develop Grinzez's talent and research in computer science and information technologies for Northern Archanta.

Pyapyor Rail services

https://pointochinikia.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Coshatiuav/Sandbox

Sections under construction

  • 2025: Line 11 North
  • 2027: Line 8 North (Nangfout-?), Line 7 South (Marpyan-?)
  • 2028: Line 9 (Ranghom)

Loading map...

Grinzian cuisine and ingredients

Local and mixed origin dishes

Bai and Huayanic-inspired

Melayish

Snacks

  • Còk pap, various types of baked puff pastries, the most famous being curry or epok-epok (kari)
  • Sajpier, various sweet or savoury baked pastries
  • Vadéy

Condiments

  • Tîk Sueng,

Beverages

  • Kòfé
  • Various beers or mo byè
  • Sra sé, local rice wine

Template:Navbox



Random stuff

In the 1400s the imperial city, Bamareyer, was established, and this also lended its name to the term "Pamer Archantans" (I'm aware of the resemblance to RW Bamar or Burmese, oops)

The unit of currency since 2004 is the Grinzian Pound (GP or rarely G£), divided into 100 roythiems (Rt). The G£ is a redenomination of the pre-2004 Thiem at 1:10000 (roythiem meaning "hundred thiem"). In the real world its value can be compared to GBP.

Languages

My idea for the region is to create a group of Asian-sounding conlangs, particularly South East Asian, yet not based on any particular one. However, consider the Austroasiatic languages (Khmer and Vietnamese) as the closest real-world matches. They have rather simple characteristics (no morphological cases, adjectives after nouns, Brahmi-inspired consonant system). I'm not sure how much I've managed to imitate these SEA languages in Grinzez, but I'm presently working on changing the existing names (which would take a while). I've used Romanisation partially because of my obsession with transliteration and partially because of the difficulty of reading a conscript.

I've always considered Grinzian to resemble Northern Khmer, because of its tendency to have final 'r's and preference of '-ə-'s over consonant clusters. For my ongoing work with the language, see my page in the collaborative spreadsheet.

Sample words of the Pameric Family
Ingerish Laun Grinzian Chonane Sichi
"friend" bbdior bedior bdior bidiur
"street/way" kroat stroat trathe krɛt
"swamp" bayan pyan payane payaen
"Tuesday" ngkar óngka angta nɯngka

As for orthography, it's pretty easy to read once you get the hang of it:

  • Vowels can come in either monographs (â é è î ó ò ú) or digraphs (oa ae ea eu oe ou ui), respectively. It's an attempt to combine the Franquese (with some slight modifications) and Ingerish romanisations that were used historically. Full details can be found here.
  • Many consonats sound like their English equivalents, with some exceptions: the uvular q and x (French r), the palatal c, j and nh (ñ), and aspirated consonants are followed with an h: th, ph (not f), kh, ch.
  • The sound shifts:
    • e before d,t,g,k or r becomes é/ae. If you want the /ə/ sound after these letters, use ó/oe.
    • There is some allophony between /ɨ/ and /əu/ sometimes.
    • Some historical i's become a's, and a's become o's, which is pretty fun.

Kroksin is the official conscript of the Pameric languages. It's a featural abugida descended from the Mon-Burmese branch of Pallavi, with substantial changes so the graphemes represent vocal characteristics.

I was deliberately inspired by the Hangeul script in developing Kroksin. In the OGF world, the Krin probably came up with the early consonants alongside the (Mon), which the Gohanguk later adopted. As the Hangeul script gained popularity further east, the Krin then decided to adopt some Hangeul characters like ㄴ n and ㅅ s into Kroksin for simplicity. Here's a sample:

글린샞 ⅂ꝚาL ゙⋏ฝ "Krinsej"

Regional context

Like several Southeast Asian nations Grinzez is a conglomeration of various ethnic groups, and each state tends to have a unique cultural makeup. Because of this, states have considerable autonomy over their affairs.

State/Federal territory Population (millions) Human Development Index (HDI) Description
Brisrié /bɹi.sɹie/ 2.8 0.892 TBA
Célvue /cel.vw(ə)h/ 4.7 0.843 A resource-rich inner state based on inland China.
Hikòhnavok /'hikoh.navɔk/ 5.0 0.947 A southern gateway city, in the Pearl River Delta style like Hong Kong or Shenzhen.
Hrontaem /'hɹɔn.te:m/ 5.4 0.906 Hrontaem feels a bit more Euro-inspired than the rest, and is a mix of urban metropolises and quiter villages overall.
Intiuiter /in'tju.iteɹ/ 8.2 0.911 The most populated state, drawing from Taiwan, peninsular Malaysia among others. To the east, density of urban development invites comparisons to the Klang Valley or Greater Seoul metropolitan areas, which I'm trying to emulate.
Laneur /la:nɨɹ/ 4.8 0.794 Inspired by Tamil Nadu, the most densely-populated state in India.
Lomain /lɔmajn/ 1.3 0.776 Like Laneur, Lomain is inspired by Dravidia, this time the state of Kerala.
Lokeuruet /'lɔkɯrwət/ 1.2 0.823 A low-lying primarily agricultural state, with a Vietnamese style especially on the coast. It is home to the Khuun (RW Palaung) ethnic group which is separate from both Krin and Nakah.
Pyapyor /'pjap.jɔɹ/ 8.1 0.964 Pyapyor is obviously heavily based upon Singapore (hopefully even better than Khaiwoon is), though with a more inland nature. I also drew inspirations from London and Berlin (both very practical but sophisticated cities).
Sènkchom /'sɛŋk.ʈʂɔm/ 0.7 0.841 TBA
Threptop /tɹe:p.tɔp/ 3.9 0.926 Thretop is inspired by Taipei and KL, as a mountain-valley city of sorts. Planned are a university city and surrounding natural attractions/resorts.
Volúma /vɔlyma/ 0.5 0.746 An inland state with Cambodian/Lao geography. Home of Laun (RW Kuy) people and languages.
Weybaro /wɨj.baɹo/ 1.5 0.724 Weybaro is the native-focused state of the region, with SE Asian settlements as inspiration.