This has rather bothered me quite recently, after doing some wiki clean-ups and some browsing of some of Archanta's international organisations, such as the Archanta Nations Organization (ANO), Central Archanta Economic Union and the South-West Astrasian Economic Alliance (SWAEA). These organisations have been quite passive, and I thought there should be more meaningful stuff we can do with the organisations. The SWAEA and ANO are both organised by 'Lost countries', so I think they should be taken over by new countries like maybe AR120?
The CARECU is rather inactive, so I thought maybe members of this organisation start opening up trading routes? I have not really had any fresh ideas yet for the future of these organisations, so I hope this is where everyone can brainstorm on what to do with these organisations. I thought maybe deleting them and starting a new organisation.
|Posted by Zhenkang on 12 February 2018 at 10:07.|
Edited by Zhenkang on 12 February 2018 at 10:08.
In my opinion, the ANO's purpose was boosting the ego of its creator. In the end the ego was bigger than the mapping effort, so the founder is now gone and the ANO pointless. Unless one of the members wants to keep it, delete it. We would not even need it as "lost".
Apart from that, every member should decide themselves if they want to be in a useless organization. It's not visible in mapping (aka. overwikification), and if it is just a list of general secretaries or other pointless stuff, I would leave it as a member. If others would do as well, the pointless organizations will end up without members. and ready for deletion.
If you want an organization worth not to be deleted, do something for it. Otherwise bin it.
|Posted by Toadwart on 12 February 2018 at 15:53.|
^I second this. ANO looks very "low-effort" from the outside, and the fact that it was founded by a new mapper (who abandoned OGF afterwards) say a lot about this "Union", which I assume was made to make his country "relevant" somehow. Also - are these attempts on roleplay on it's talk page? SWAEA looks a little bit better on first glance, having an okay looking map and some discussion on the talk page, although mainly about joining the organisation by new members. CAEU article is very short and the member list includes Karolia which lies in Uletha (Sarapeva propably forgot about having it there after he moved the country ;) ).
|Posted by Trabantemnaksiezyc on 12 February 2018 at 20:00.|
I've talked to ANO founder from a few months back, I was giving ideas that could affect more of the mapping rather than a just roleplaying thing. Wasn't said that roleplaying is bad, it's fun but I already made a new ANO logo to him but nothing changed to ANO. I had big hopes for such organization and would change it by myself but that's wasn't ethical. The founder are also weren't active on mapping effort. I'm not saying to keep it but I really want these kinds of union are managed by more consistent-active mapper that is open-minded to ideas and loves to communicate.
I agree with Zhenkang that AR120, as Archanta's superpower should take over the unions like ANO since it's more continent-y with a new name? Every ideas, I am ready to participate.
|Posted by Oneofbeatlefan on 13 February 2018 at 17:46.|
Well, Singkangia is slightly too small to be the chairperson of an organisation like ANO. The CARECU could have been merged with the ANO as the economic division of the ANO.
There are many possibilities, like the ANO could be by Mecyna (a quite important city) or AR120, which can also manage the South-West Astrasian Economic Alliance (SWAEA) at the same time.
I don't really know why DerreckBarosso (owner of Abunadi) would seriously want to set up the ANO. His country is slightly too small and not-so-powerful to be in charge of an organisation.
|Posted by Zhenkang on 15 February 2018 at 04:16.|
If someone came up with the new ANO, please hit me up for logos and design stuff. I kinda sad that the new logo for ANO that DerreckBarosso ask, didn't made it anywhere :(
|Posted by Oneofbeatlefan on 23 February 2018 at 12:06.|
It could be interesting to explore the possibilities of such organization and the mapping of its buildings and other structures, but it's mandatory to have a fine detailed place to do so.
I'm opposite to the concept of AR120 as the main country in Archanta... There are other places, such as Lorredion or Castilea Archantea, which are also powerful, well developed, with a great background and...fine detailed mapping
|Posted by Black Baron on 22 March 2018 at 21:08.|
Maybe the ANO or any other organization was created by some middle powers like Lorredion and CA to be a balance to AR120? This new collaborative area is going to be the lone superpower, so it would make sense that other countries on the lower part of the continent would want to have something to balance it out. I can imagine the realpolitik of AR120–neighbor relations being either really smooth (everyone gets along because AR120 is almost a benefactor on major issues) or quite dicey (if AR120 gets any whiff of how much power it could actually command over the continent). Then again my country isn't in Archanta, so maybe my opinion doesn't matter…
|Posted by Alessa on 22 March 2018 at 22:09.|
Yes. If you look at the Americas, there are international organisations that don't have the US as a member that (attempt to) act as a counterbalance.
|Posted by Turnsole80 on 22 March 2018 at 22:19.|
So it does not have to be AR120 to be the 'main member' for the ANO and CARECU? Well, that is possible. I am thinking of Mecyna and the other options you offered. Of course, that will mean I have to contact the owners about this.
|Posted by Zhenkang on 22 March 2018 at 22:43.|