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[#6045]

Hello!

I think its time to bring up a very important issue occurring in the FSA right now.

When it was created, it was decided all multi-state issues like large natural features, or collaborative territories, or mountain ranges would have their names and details voted on by the FSA community, or in some cases a smaller subset.

Please see

https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/OGF:Federal_States/Archive

https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/OGF:Federal_States/Natural_features

Recently there have been many natural features and three or four collaborative states that have been named over the Discord without any sort of formal discussion or consultation of the rest of the community. I feel like this is wrong and that there needs to be an effort to retroactively fix this situation and make sure that important decisions are being made HERE in front of EVERYONE and not just a few people scheming on the Discord.


Posted by Zytik on 9 June 2020 at 18:14.

These people had a vote in naming New Carnaby, Mennowa, Cosperica, etc, so why shouldn't we be allowed to vote on their collaboration names? It seems very hypocritical

Posted by Zytik on 9 June 2020 at 18:17.

I have not seen discussions being finalised on Discord (yet), but that certainly should not be the solution for FSA issues. I personally keep far, far, far from Discord because of it's issues in the far and recent past. Also, it's one forum too many IMHO. We have procedures, we have a forum (= here) let's use it.

Posted by Marcello on 9 June 2020 at 18:29.

The names for Walkegan collaborative, Delenshire Islands collaborative, and now "Eskamishee" collaborative have all been decided by a small community on DC

Posted by Zytik on 9 June 2020 at 18:33.

@marcello It looks like TheMayor is trying to make sure important nationwide issues discussed on the discord make their way to the forum. That said, I do wish this forum were more active.

Posted by Fluffr Nuttr on 9 June 2020 at 18:59.

Walkegan and Delenshire are considered more "private" collaborations, so that does not apply. And also, here we go again with the Discord drama.

Posted by Yoyo21 on 9 June 2020 at 19:14.

Mayor has only started this after I have brought up how clandestine these decisions were. Has anyone here ever heard the name "Eskamishee"? Then why is it a new territory being thoroughly planned only on the discord.

Posted by Zytik on 9 June 2020 at 19:15.

You may call this drama, but this is a CRITICALLY important discussion to have, and there are serious concerns with major decisions being made apart from the rest of the FSA community here on the forums!

Posted by Zytik on 9 June 2020 at 19:16.

The reason why the plans for the northwest haven't been announced here is that these plans are in the making. Once plans are more finalized, they're supposed to be announced here. However, I can see why when these things are being developed, you'd want more transparency.

Posted by Fluffr Nuttr on 9 June 2020 at 19:16.

To make it clear, with collaboratives being planned, we're doing the backstage planning over discord, but it won't be exclusive to members of the unofficial OGF Discord. Once we are ready, we will publicly announce it most likely over the forum here.

Posted by Jbobinman on 9 June 2020 at 19:18.

Posted by Marcello on 9 June 2020 at 18:29.

»I have not seen discussions being finalised on Discord (yet), but that certainly should not be the solution for FSA issues. I personally keep far, far, far from Discord because of it's issues in the far and recent past. Also, it's one forum too many IMHO. We have procedures, we have a forum (= here) let's use it.«
Well, this forum is not as condusive, in my opinion, to creating ideas and getting feedback, as well as building a community. This feels much more formal(not in the best of ways), and Discord is an environment where when properly regulated people can make far more collaboration progress. In short, discord and this forum is very different. I won't deny that Discord has problems, but if this was the only forum then a lot of valuable voices wouldn't get heard.

Posted by Lithium on 9 June 2020 at 19:18.
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