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For a long time, I heard people saying that "you should use JOSM" for editing on OGF. And while I have been tempted to get it (if only so if I get back into the FSA beyond just my current county in Alormen), given my activity patterns (of being active for several months straight then basically going silent for several months before returning), I am afraid that if I install JOSM, it would just end up festering and taking space on my computer that could be better used for, well, other things.

So, to my fellow OGFers who use JOSM, how many hours do you typically spend per day using JOSM for OpenGeoFiction? And how frequently do you use it?

Personally, I only use the in-browser editor for mapping, although as I've mentioned, I've been tempted to get JOSM.

Posted by Luziyca on 6 December 2020 at 03:52.

Whenever I edit ogf, I use JOSM. The only times when I use iD is when I need to make a very quick edit. Getting JOSM actually spurred me to edit more, since the possibilities are so increased. In terms of your concern about size (although I'm not a computer expert), I think that JOSM is a pretty small app. It only takes up 14.3MB on my computer, versus Inkscape that takes up 88.7MB.

Posted by Lithium on 12 December 2020 at 12:32.

When I started OGF (2014) I used Potlatch. From late 2014 to now I use only JOSM. I have only ever used iD to TEST it - i.e. to provide technical support in my role as member of the admin team.

Posted by Luciano on 12 December 2020 at 16:49.

As one of the few iD defenders, it is possible to map a state or nation using only iD. That said, it is extremely time consuming and requires a lot of pre-planning as there are limited zoom levels that can be used in iD, which means it is a significant detriment and likely would fuel your activity/inactivity cycles. JOSM is superior when it comes to mapping on larger scales, and as Lithium mentioned the additional tools provided in JOSM may help encourage you to be more active. (Your neighbors can help you stay active and engaged too, especially in a collaborative project like the FSA.) JOSM is a relatively small program and I would recommend downloading it to try it out in your Alormen county, since there is a learning curve, but there’s plenty of mappers here who can help you through any issues with the software itself. If you don’t like it, you can always uninstall and go back to iD whenever you like.

Posted by TheMayor on 12 December 2020 at 17:12.

Even as someone who was a Potlatch 2 defender and dominant user for years (I'd also used iD at points for small details), ever since May or so I've been near exclusively mapping in JOSM. It's pretty much the only reason the new Freedemia looks as good as it does and the only reason it's advanced as much as it has. From what I can tell it doesn't really seem to take up a lot of space or cause the computer to slow or anything. I'd second Mayor here

Posted by Ernestpcosby on 12 December 2020 at 19:42.

Posted by TheMayor on 12 December 2020 at 17:12.

»As one of the few iD defenders, it is possible to map a state or nation using only iD. That said, it is extremely time consuming and requires a lot of pre-planning as there are limited zoom levels that can be used in iD, which means it is a significant detriment and likely would fuel your activity/inactivity cycles. JOSM is superior when it comes to mapping on larger scales, and as Lithium mentioned the additional tools provided in JOSM may help encourage you to be more active. (Your neighbors can help you stay active and engaged too, especially in a collaborative project like the FSA.) JOSM is a relatively small program and I would recommend downloading it to try it out in your Alormen county, since there is a learning curve, but there’s plenty of mappers here who can help you through any issues with the software itself. If you don’t like it, you can always uninstall and go back to iD whenever you like.«

That is a really fair point you have raised: I've used iD, not because I'm scared of downloading the thing or what have you, but simply because I felt worried that given my typical activity patterns of spending months editing and then months in a "hibernatory" state, though that's probably because my interest in things flares up and then off over time. The only country I really "completed" with iD was Kuggyong, and even then, it was very tiny, and well, as you probably can still tell, isn't really great.

But yeah, now that you've mentioned that it's a small program (file-size), I'm probably going to give JOSM a shot soon, and learn how to use it, now that I won't feel as guilty about it taking up space on my laptop. Maybe once I have the hang of it, I might return to state ownership (though not as a Francophone state, ofc, given a) Alormen exists and b) I prefer the American-esque mapping of the FSA :P).

Posted by Luziyca on 12 December 2020 at 21:40.

Well, meant Ardencia but you get what I mean.

Posted by Luziyca on 12 December 2020 at 22:52.