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In the real world, there are like other kinds of transportation which are getting more popular, such as bicycles, high seed rail (HSR) and private hire like Grab and Uber.

Bicycles and other mobility devices

Cycling is another more eco-friendly way of travelling, and can also access places where there are no roads but only bicycles tracks. If oil runs out, then the ol' bicycles still can bring people around, at least.

I wonder if anyone heard about 'bike sharing', because it is getting more popular in Singapore. In Singapore, we have OBike, Ofo, Mobike etc (search on the web). Are there any of such companies in OGF?

I also wonder after Sarepava's Diary entry on cycling, are there more OGF cities with cycling routes? I will also like to hear.

HSR

There are HSR networks around the OGF world, but can all of the HSR networks be gathered on a map and a wiki page?

I thought of creating regional, not just cross-country, HSR networks in the future, which can provide an alternative for aeroplanes. Western Europe already have a HSR network connecting across the continent.

HSR in west Europe

Private hire

This is a bit of overwikification, but I wonder what are the private hire companies in OGF. Does private hire cars exist?

I also thought of some countries resisting this concept, such as Hong Kong (due to the taxi drivers). I wonder if your country reject or welcome this concept.


Posted by Zhenkang on 18 December 2017 at 05:44.

Just to clarify - there aren't any "European" HSRs. There are certain countries that have such railways but they are not a one system.

There are some early plans for a HSR system connecting some countries lying on the Firth of Hetzer, with multiple lines and extending to neighbooring countries, but these are just plans for now.

Posted by Trabantemnaksiezyc on 18 December 2017 at 15:27.

Unofficially (it hasn't been added to the wiki but I think I mentioned it in a news article) Freedemia is home to Ryde, sort of a fake version of Lyft (Uber's biggest competitor in the U.S.).

I know Gobrassanya (and Khaiwoon?) have an HSR. I've kinda wanted to make one in Freedemia. I need to look closer at the various European systems. So far I've based my rail systems more off of Amtrak in the U.S.

Posted by Ernestpcosby on 18 December 2017 at 16:20.

Myrcia is a big nation for cycling. As I rebuild Dunwic I am trying to make sure there is a coherent and comprehensive network of cycle lanes (known as cycleb├Žn) and plenty of cycle parking and public cycle hire. The government has banned private cycle hire apps like Ofo as they block up pavements and cycle parking and do not integrate with other forms of transport as the municipal scheme does.

Here's an example of a part of Dunwic where you can see a major cycle route, cycle parking and a cycle hire stand. http://api.opengeofiction.net/#map=19/56.32716/19.24773

There is no HSR in Myrcia for obvious reasons but Railweg Myrcia offers through-ticketing by train and ferry to most of Uletha.

There is private hire but all the companies are either employee-owned or run by unions. There is no Uber (or whatever the OGF equivalent is) as Myrcia has very strict labour laws.

Posted by Myrcia on 18 December 2017 at 20:47.

Vodeo's been an automotive country for more than a century now, and as the country boomed in the '50s and '60s, more attention (and funding) was put into roads and motorways, and less into the national railway system. By the 1990s most provinces had either closed or sold off their railway systems (Cambria and St Austell are the notable exceptions), and it seemed like the future of rail was in freight and metropolitan services. Fortunately there has been something of a renaissance in recent years, and 2017 is set to be the railways' best year in decades.

Because of the decades of low patronage, high-speed railways were seen as an unnecessary extravagance, and so well into this century the intercity services were powered by diesel (which for obvious reasons is slow and dirty) or ordinary electrics that couldn't hope to hit 150 km/h, let alone 300 km/h. When the Federal government was elected in 2010, they promised to begin upgrading "key trunk lines" to high-speed standard - Holme and Saviso were joined in 2014, Avington and Holme in 2015, and Silverton to Gerrise via Saviso this year.

As for cycling, well, almost the whole of Vodeo is mimicking Auckland. In both cases, investment was in the roads, not cycling, and so now there's a frantic drive to shoehorn cycle lanes into major arterial roads, with mixed results. Cyclists say it's easier to get around (which may be true - cycle numbers have been steadily increasing for years now), but motorists say they're taking up valuable road room. There's an unofficial war on the roads in some cities, leading to the joke that old cars from the '50s have shot up in value because the hood ornaments and Dagmar bumpers are useful for skewering cyclists.

Private hire companies have been taking Vodeo by storm in the last few years. Flagfall is the most popular, but other international ones are doing well. Taxi drivers and airport companies aren't happy about it, and it's prompted the government to introduce legislation setting in place guidelines of operation, but they're very popular and seem to be here for the foreseeable future.

Posted by ParAvion on 18 December 2017 at 21:51.

There is an HSR between Loravia and Odrava, but it's not like a TGV with separate stations or anything, it's just a faster express train that stops at only three major cities. As for cycling, there are fantastic examples of urban planning and recreational sites in Myrcia.

Posted by Litvania on 18 December 2017 at 22:31.

Cycling is starting to become more and more popular in Paroy. At the start of building Trevers a few years ago, cycling lanes and paths were not taken into account. As a native to cycling everywhere in the Netherlands (cycling here is really the fastest way to go through most cities, there are bikelanes everywhere) this felt very weird and I made the decision to make Paroy much more in a British style, tight to its Ingerish colonial roots, with some features borought from my own experiences in the Netherlands. I really hope this idea will fit in the place where my country is, it's climate and it's neighbours. This will also be addressed in my next Bliki. The rebuilding in and arounds Trevers starts in a month or two, and more cycling infrastructure will be integrated in the map as of then.

Bike sharing is quite popular in the city of Trevers. There are a few companies that offer bike sharing, one of which is METRE (the metropolitan public transport company). There are lots of rental bikes on the streets and in special "rental stations", which are inside buildings like underground stations in London, or build underground entirely.

As for the high-speed rail, at the moment, there are two lines in Paroy. The first line runs from Trevers and mostly follows the E-1 to Coleraine, the second runs from Helena along E-30 to Coleraine. From here, it would be nice to connect to existing high speed rail in neighbouring countries, with the best option being a direct line from Trevers/Helena to Latina City, via Coleraine and Cordoba. But these are just plans for now, and have to be carefully discussed with the territory owners at the time it's ready, which may take a while since Coleraine does not technically exist yet.

Private hiring is possible only in larger cities in Paroy, for instance Trevers. These are mostly located near international airports and international ferry terminals. I imagine there would be a kind of Uber on the streets, but not on the same scale as some US cities. Nevertheless private car hiring will be slowly reduced in the years to come due to overloading of the roads in the inner city and it's infrastructure like parking lots and garages. But the same goes for private taxi companies, as Trevers wants to promote its extensive public transit system to relief crowded city streets and neighbourhoods.

Posted by PortCal on 18 December 2017 at 23:02.

I wrote a recent Bliki entry about the conflict between modes of transport in Xenica. Cycling is starting to become popular, thanks to young people actually thinking about avoiding the consequences on the environment.

At present, Uber-style ride share is illegal, primarily because of the government's worry about safety and regulation. It also keeps the taxi drivers motivated to work.

Posted by FictiveJ on 19 December 2017 at 01:34.

I have created a page for a List of High Speed Rail networks around the world.

Posted by Zhenkang on 20 December 2017 at 05:58.

As already mentioned, Karolia has a very developed and established cycling culture, and Netherlands-level cycle infrastructure. Green issues and self-determination are pretty important to the national culture, so bicycles needed little encouragement to become very popular in the last 40 years. There is somewhat less banning of cars from city centres, roads are kept open to allow buses and deliveries but the main deterrent to car use is a deliberate lack of parking spaces aside from loading bays and disabled (and a lot of disabled people use hand-pedal bikes and electric trikes and quadrocycles to get around). Most of what would be the 'parking spaces' are either the wide cycle lanes, or cycle parking, or just wider pavement. Roller bladers, skaters and electric scooters may use cycle lanes too. Over the years, subtle attitudes have been encouraged by the authorities to make unnecessary driving in cities a social faux pas ('cars are for the motorway!'), to the extent that cycling is pretty much seen as the default way to travel. This does mean that it's nothing special to ride a bicycle, and Karolians only define themselves as a 'cyclist' if they are involved in cycle sports. It is common for children to ride to school on their own from about six years old. You will pretty much never see any Karolian wearing a helmet or hi-vis, since why would anyone need 'safety equipment' for something that's a completely safe everyday activity?

In addition, it is a planning requirement in most Karolian states that all new buildings must as a minimum have reasonable access to cycle parking, and in some places it is very much encouraged to provide a lock-up for every house or a 'cycle garage' built in. Quite a few local transport authorities have provision to carry bicycles on trains, trams and buses.

Cycle hire is mainly run by the city councils using docked bikes in main cities - dockless hire is not illegal but there is limited demand for it as most Karolians own at least one cycle and tourists mostly use the affordable official schemes.

Uber-type minicab companies are only banned in a couple of Karolian cities. In others they are strictly regulated with regard to numbers of cars, driver hours, pay, fares and safety. Since the minimum wage and fuel and car taxes are all pretty high in Karolia, these sorts of taxis are not any more competitive than traditional licenced taxis.

High-speed rail was a much promoted project of the Karolian government about twenty years ago. The network of dedicated track which connects main cities is moreorless complete now and there are no plans for extensions - the trains simply use the normal tracks at lower speeds to go further. It has become less universally popular as there are complaints it offers no benefit to smaller towns, and that despite Karolia's high use of renewable energy the carbon savings over coaches are not particularly great, and worse than normal trains.

Posted by Sarepava on 21 December 2017 at 12:09.

Karolian High Speed rail: http://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/Karolian_High-Speed

Posted by Sarepava on 21 December 2017 at 12:16.
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