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I just want to know, is there a thing that grabs your attention on OGF and drives you nuts about it*.

In my opinion it's multiple capital=yes tags per country.

`*And I know this isn't r/AskReddit, but I'm really curious of what you say.

Posted by Trabantemnaksiezyc on 4 February 2018 at 08:48.
Edited by Trabantemnaksiezyc on 4 February 2018 at 08:50.

I know this is really unimportant, but I get so irritated by users who upload lots of really small changesets containing like two elements each! Then there is like three new changesets every minute, and I know it's just a number, but I get so anxious when I see how quickly the count of total changesets uploaded rises.

Posted by Eklas (administrator) on 10 February 2018 at 17:35.

@eklas My 4,153 changesets and I feel really guilty right now... Well after a bigger edit I'm always like oh.. hate that street name *changes street name* *uploads new changeset* oh.. I should have placed a bench on that pedestrian street *places bench* *uploads again* ... ...

Posted by Stjur (administrator) on 10 February 2018 at 17:54.

@Stjur don't feel guilty :D In your case, we see some progress on the map... In this case, I'm sure, everybody accepts some more changesets.

I'm irritated by small villages tagged as city or some other misused tags which you can find by using overpass querries.

Posted by Mstr on 10 February 2018 at 18:30.

I'm definitely guilty of uploading lots of small changesets...I do the same thing Stjur describes, uploading a big change via JOSM and doing lots of tweaks in iD once I see how things appear on the map. I wish there were a preview mode in JOSM where you could see exactly how something will be displayed! (Please enlighten me if I am just ignorant...)

My main irritation is with the wiki, not the map...there are so many random pages featuring intensive sports statistics (which have serve no cartographic purpose, at least that I can think of) while the majority of History sections in national pages (which can be really helpful to other mappers in understanding their neighbors) are just a list of headers with no context...maybe timeframes if you're lucky (i.e. "100-640 CE"). Buuuuut I also recognize that most people are not*verbose* as I am, so I try not to let it bug me too much. :)

Posted by Louis walker on 10 February 2018 at 18:54.

@Louis walker The longer I map on OGF the more I am sure that writing the country history, especially complex, is pointless. Neighbors are changing constantly so any interesting event is not possible to exist in country's history, some neighbors feel annoyed that someone uses their countries (which were for example green when you have written the story) and react harsh.

So if you don't have mature and trustworthy mappers as neighbors probably better don't write any history for your mental comfort.

Posted by Rustem Pasha on 10 February 2018 at 19:11.

I obviously get that sometimes you fix small mistakes, so you have a small changeset. I've definitely done that too. But then there are users who produce over a hundred changesets a day without actually drawing anything major or basically making any effort. Look at the recent edits list, you'll see them.

Posted by Eklas (administrator) on 10 February 2018 at 19:14.

@rüstem pașa I have to strongly disagree with you. To me, if a country doesn't have a written history (which should include collaboration with others), it doesn't exist on OGF, which is really sad sometimes, especially if its mapping has a certain level. I have to agree that most of the OGF world is not that collaboration-friendly though - but luckily enough Centralwesten Uletha and Northern Tarephia are! And also collaboration is the main thing that kept me mapping in 2017.

@eklas I know how you feel

Posted by Stjur (administrator) on 10 February 2018 at 19:52.

Well I know that some places are better for collaboration in OGF are better and some are worse. That's why I am waiting to move to Uletha, the most certain is UL114 at the moment so it seem we will be neighbors one day.

Posted by Rustem Pasha on 10 February 2018 at 20:56.

Writing a detailed history is not "pointless," you just don't want to do it. That's totally fine and entirely your prerogative, but there's no need to discount the work done by those of us who want there to be a strong narrative guiding our mapping.

Posted by Louis walker on 11 February 2018 at 18:27.

Well, I have written probably one of the most detailed histories in the OGF world but I had to delete a lot of it because there was no reachable consensus. That's why I have written it is "pointless". Region where your country lies is the best example of cooperation in OGF in the last few months so you can write a detailed history with your neighbors...

Posted by Rustem Pasha on 11 February 2018 at 20:07.
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