Talk:Chief Secretary of the Assembly of Nations

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We need a system to manage all things related to the Assembly of Nations

Can someone out there (including any of the admins) manage this? This list seems to be abandoned for quite a while. Shall we do a vote for each candidate like the OGF:Geolympiad Bids? By the way, I will like to support Hannah-Maryam Sansu Paulo and Arlent II Halensk. Kuehong will also like to send a candidate for the Assembly of Nations soon, though probably I may try to send one as head of the Peacekeeping forces.--Happy mapping and God blesses you, ZK (talk) 08:23, 8 October 2019 (CEST)

Zhenkang, international organization and competition wiki articles are not exactly the number one priority now, I’d say most of them are irrelevant at the moment, as their wiki pages are outdated and will become even more outdated as things will change on the OGF map (currently a lot is changing as you might have noticed, actually the area of Pretany, which headquarters this organization, will be completely reorganized too). Only after solving the big problems on the OGF map we can maybe start focusing on international organizations, if there is enough interest for that. —Stjur (talkOGF) 14:48, 9 October 2019 (CEST)
Hmm alright. I just want to clear this list of candidates since they have been sitting around for too long; maybe we can actually delete this page from the OGF wiki then we can no longer deal with this problem?
About AN headquarters, I have also wanted to move it to somewhere neutral. Tigeria has already a few offices, though im not sure if it is in a good strategic position for people and world leaders to meet. I thought of setting Gobras City to host the Headquarters instead. Anyway these are my thoughts; in case the new country replacing Pretany does not want to host it.--Happy mapping and God blesses you, ZK (talk) 15:04, 9 October 2019 (CEST)
I think you didn’t quite get what i was trying to say. Wiki articles about international organizations can be ignored for now, actually if it was only up to me and if I cared enough I would delete them all. These pages have been created when the community was much smaller and much more geofiction-oriented than today. By now pretty much all more advanced users have lost their trust in anything on the wiki any user is able to join, as these pages started being dominated by users who don’t focus on geofiction at all anymore, but on political roleplaying instead. —Stjur (talkOGF) 15:31, 9 October 2019 (CEST)
Slow, slow, slow. As OGF started, there was some agreements of cooperation between mappers for international organisations and some of us spend some time to lend this in an ordinary way (embassies, sibling cities and so on). "Delete them all ..." can not be the final soloution. Here we must step forward with patience and feeling. --Histor (talk) 15:56, 9 October 2019 (CEST)
As said, the community worked differently back then. If we want international organizations to ever work again, we need to first reorganize and fix some problems on the world map (Uletha is gonna be divided into sectors, Archanta is being organized into cultural regions), then we can rethink any international matters. Else we’ll have messy cities which aren't good examples of quality mapping being most "globally renown" and even more users drawing ferry lines all over the world without knowing how they're being drawn. —Stjur (talkOGF) 16:48, 9 October 2019 (CEST)

I was just addressing the part about the Assmebly of Nations Headquarters and stuff, but probably that is irrelavant as of now. Anyway I agree this can be put off for this moment; it can difficult trying to agree who will be a candidate for this. I just dont like such 'proposed' pages to be left with stuff unconfirmed, like other issues such as World War and things like that. I thought for this page, it will be a quick decision process, but never mind if you think this is unimportant.
P.S. apologies for some of the punctuation errors but that is because I am typing these comments from my phone...--Happy mapping and God blesses you, ZK (talk) 00:37, 10 October 2019 (CEST)

Candidates

I see you've put up some parameters here, which I think is a good thing. And I snuck in before the parameters were made. But I promise to make a page for Deputy Chief Secretary Caroline Lindentree! --Demuth (talk) 09:50, 26 March 2015 (CET)

No problem - you had set Caroline long ago. And if her link is blue, it is all o.k. --11:47, 26 March 2015 (CET)

Arlent II Halensk

Can I propose Prince Arlent II Halensk from Eshein as Chief Secretary from 2002 to 2008? --Ifgus (talk) 17:43, 17 April 2017 (EEST)

Re-asking because it's been two years --Ifgus (talk) 00:56 22 April 2019 (EEST)


Beba Larin Řeř

Can I suggest Řots diplomat and politician Beba Larin Řeř as SG or VSG from 1972 to 1978? --Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 11:13, 14 June 2015 (CEST)

Yes, if you make clear, that the link to him/her is blue - means, you had write in the wiki a biographie about him(?)/her(?). --Histor (talk) 11:27, 14 June 2015 (CEST)
Yes, the (blue) link to his biography is mentioned above. --Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 11:29, 14 June 2015 (CEST)

Elwyn ap Geraint

Can I propose Syr Elwyn ap Geraint as Chief Secretary from 1978 to 1984? Thanks Pawl (talk) 16:42, 14 June 2015 (CEST)

Looks good to me, feel free to add. :-) --Isleño (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2015 (CEST)

Caoimhín Caulfield

Can Caoimhín Caulfield be the current SG? He's a fisherman and car salesman turned diplomatist. Imhotep

Mr Caulfield is currently 29 years old; that's quite young for this job, I would say. Normally international jobs like this one require a lot more diplomatic and/or political experience; in the real world e.g. secretaries general of the UN were at least 48 years old - I'm not sure if the same would apply in the OGF world though, so other comments are welcome.
1986 born? I think, he is too young. --Histor (talk) 13:09, 26 July 2015 (CEST)
FYI to all users, please sign/timestamp each discussion comment by typing "--~~~~" afterwards. Thanks!  :-) As for Caulfield, I agree he's too young and inexperienced. But more importantly, I just looked at the article for B'tuaga and I think the country as a whole may need a bit more age and experience to fit in with the rest of the world. First, there would have likely been some indigenous human presence on this continent — if you don't want native people in your story, maybe you could say that little was ever known about them, maybe they disappeared without leaving much trace of their culture. Second, the land likely would have been claimed by some imperial powers (maybe Ingerland, if this is an Ingerish/English speaking country?) and/or colonized by settlers long before 1997. In nearby Paxtar, for example, settlement began over 300 years ago. That said, things are a bit disorganized which makes these histories difficult to figure out... I think we really should try to establish a better framework for world history so that countries are better able to find a coherent place within it. For Ingerish speaking countries, the Timeline of Ingerish colonial history may be a good start, maybe a model for how to move forward. --Isleño (talk) 00:24, 27 July 2015 (CEST)
Completely off topic, but I'm not sure if I understand the signature/stamp thing. What is it for/what is the added value? And after what should it be typed? --Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 07:26, 27 July 2015 (CEST)
Whenever a comment is made, it lets everyone know who made the comment and when the comment was made. So it gives context on who is making the comment and where they are coming from, and whether the conversation is old or recent. It should be put after every comment made in the Talk sections of each wiki article. Does that answer your question? I for one definitely appreciate it, and it helps me in my own replies. --Demuth (talk) 09:40, 27 July 2015 (CEST)
That I understand, but what are the Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 09:48, 27 July 2015 (CEST)'s for? --Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 09:47, 27 July 2015 (CEST)
Ah, I get it :-) That saves time... --Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 09:49, 27 July 2015 (CEST)
And I agree with Isleño about the age of B'tuaga. Another way it could work for me is if the land has been uninhabitable - basically desert of some sort - until modern technology changed and made it possible, with overpopulation issues in nearby areas making it somehow attractive - although that still stretches things mightily. But as Isleño points out, really it brings up the perennial problem of a general timeline narrative of the OGF world and what makes sense/is "realistic." It will be hard to make all the various histories/countries/cultures/languages gibe. Where did the world's language groups - Gaermanic, Asanic, Nihonish, Romantish, etc. - originate? Where did the first people live and how did they spread out throughout the world, i.e. where is our Africa? Who are these "indigenous" people we all refer to? Who colonized who and why - did we have our own big age of exploration and conquering?
I realize I have set up my own problematic issues with Østermark, which supposedly was settled by whalers from, basically, the other side of the continent of Uletha. Sort of as if Swedes colonized, um, Sakhalin island. Not very logical but I can twist a history out somehow using that, even if it is a bit far-fetched. All of which is to say, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to untangle the OGF global history unless someone really, really wants to read the whole wiki and try and make it all fit together somehow and everyone can then give their input. It's maybe easier to just refine our basic ground rules - which if we look at them again, maybe are sufficient as they are - on what we mean by verisimilitude. --Demuth (talk) 10:21, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

Jonas Qwartsen

Is it possible that Jonas Qwartsen, (I haven't made an article on him yet) a Zanyizz person born on February 19, 1956 who became a Zanyizz Primary Leader and did many things internationally, become the current chief? Thanks. --Yoyo21 (talk) 17:35, 31 August 2015 (CEST)

Hi Yoyo21, the article about Mr. Qwartsen is a good start, but the bigger issue is that Zanyizzix is still almost totally empty, both on the OGF map as well as here in the wiki. Your enthusiasm is great, but I'd encourage you (and anyone else considering a submission on this page) to spend a few months developing your country's map presence and wiki article before proposing a leader for the top international organization. Does that make sense? Also, please check your OGF mailbox for a note about the mapping. Cheers,
--Isleño (talk) 19:02, 31 August 2015 (CEST)

Hannah-Maryam Sansu Paulo

I would like to nominate Hannah-Maryam Sansu Paulo to be Deputy Chief Secretary from 1996–2002 under Soledad Ionescu. Thanks! Alessa (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2016 (CET)