Talk:Federal States

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Question

The owner of Passamaqueets has declared part of his state independent. Is this outside the rules?
Rhiney boi (talk) 22:17, 4 June 2019 (CEST)

He must've made a mistake. Secession clearly cannot be permitted. Brunanter (talk) 22:23, 4 June 2019 (CEST)
His edit comments suggest otherwise. "Editing Eleutheria", and the country has the same name.
Rhiney boi (talk) 22:39, 4 June 2019 (CEST)
I'll see what's up. -TheMayor (talk) 23:37, 4 June 2019 (CEST)

Border Dilemma

Hello, I was told to post this here despite my doubts that anybody here will be able to help in any way, blame "admin". Basically, someone made an edit that deleted the Northern border of AR120-09 (Penquisset) and the southern border of Arghenna. I emailed the admin asking if he could just revert the change set, but he told me not to email him that issue and post it here. Not sure what you guys can do, but have at it! Changset: https://opengeofiction.net/changeset/561592#map=10/-39.7622/159.4876 --Zytik (talk) 16:29, 9 July 2018 (CEST)

The edit is reverted. The point to take away is that this can be done community-wide by anyone who has JOSM and the reverter plugin. In fact, you might wish to consider using JOSM as your means of editing. It's a free download and only requires Java to run. It's not the end-all, be-all; but, it is far more powerful and useful than iD or Potlatch. Getting it set up once downloaded is quite easy, too.Alessa (talk) 18:28, 9 July 2018 (CEST)
I do use JOSM, But I was unaware of a reverting feature. Interesting, and thank you! --Zytik (talk) 19:18, 9 July 2018 (CEST)
Happy to help. As a note, the reverter takes a bit of getting used to when doing partial reverts, as there can be numerous conflicts that you'll encounter. If you need help, don't be afraid to ask. — Alessa (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2018 (CEST)

Category

Dear Histor, why is (FSA) in the title/page name (the same for the category)? This seems to be not common in the wiki.--Mstr (talk) 13:27, 25 May 2018 (CEST)

In addition, to pronounce the strength and self-confidence of the country, it would be better to simply name it Federal States (everyone knows that this means Federal States of Archanta)! Just like US in wikipedia.--Mstr (talk) 13:32, 25 May 2018 (CEST)
In the OGF-wiki we often have "global-categories" of a land as a so called portal with the same name as the land itself (p.e. Latina and many others). So I think it is helpful to have a portal for the FSA. If this now is named as "Category:Federal States of Archanta (FSA)" or only "FSA" or "Federal States" for me is no important question. But if you will change - I think only the short "FSA" may be the best name of the category -- or? --Histor (talk) 13:45, 25 May 2018 (CEST)
To use categories is not my problem, just the name of it and the name of the country's page. So what about moving the page to "Feder States", linking "Federal States of Archanta" to "Federal States" and naming the category "Federal States"?--Mstr (talk) 17:35, 25 May 2018 (CEST)
If you mean, "Federal States" is a better category - move it. At all the other country-categories nobody has seen a problem, but if you think, it is important, you may do the work. Most important is, that there is a common portal for all "AR-120 / FSA"-articles in the wiki --Histor (talk) 18:04, 25 May 2018 (CEST)

Currency and driving side

I think, for all states in the FSA should be one currency and always the driving side on the right. Therefore this items in the state-templates may not be occur. Other meaning? --Histor (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2018 (CEST)

Random Question - regional languages

Sorry to intrude (I do not work in the FSA), but does the FSA have any other regional languages besides Ingerish? This question just came to me because the FSA is so big and there are so many other nations bordering it with other languages. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 19:25, 20 July 2018 (CEST)

In my state Template:Teenesccan, I am developing the capital with a Kalmish history and some aspects of their colonisation are still present (eg. names of people, street names). --Rhiney boi (talk) 03:17, 15 April 2019 (CEST)

Regions and ZIP-Cide and Telephone-Code

As I see, the FAS has 9 regions (Huntigton, NE, SE, Central N, Central W, Lake, SW Corridor, Mountain, Far NW). So far as I know, Alorman is not a part of the FAS (then the boundary should be set from admin-level 4 to 2).

FSAregions.jpg

Is it planed, to set the fitst digit of a ZIP-code and / or Telephone-Code for a region? (I do not know, which other sense this regions should have). We can discuss here several questions

  • 1) shall have Huntingdon an own first digit, or can it incorporated in the region "Northeast"?
  • 2) must have the small Southwest Corridor have an own digit, or can it be an "appendix" of the Lake-region?
  • 3) the green or the blue numbers - or an other numbering?
  • 4) shall ZIP- and telefon-Code go parallel with the same numbers?
  • 5) Can Stanton have "21.." or "31.." as most important city in this South-East Region? --Histor (talk) 15:17, 3 May 2019 (CEST)
See also User:Wangi/Sandbox/OGF:FSA State profiles, which clarifies which states are in which region. Yes, Alorman is part of the FSA, and it is in North Central region, along with Tejoma. Huntington can be considered part of the Southeast region, or maybe a region 0?
Anyway - you'll see each region has an ogf:id (AR120-10 through AR120-90), with the states within having an id within that range too. So, any other codes really should match that formula. /wangi (talk) 16:00, 3 May 2019 (CEST)
To keep things simple with postal codes and assuming each state will have fewer than 1,000 unique postal areas, I'd suggest a five-digit postal code system, where the first two digits are the OGF state identifier (e.g., in Minnonigan, which is AR120-55, all postal codes would be 55XXX) and let each state determine how they want to distribute their individual postal codes. This also guarantees grouping codes by region and allows us to avoid any potential duplicates (except within the same state, but that's on the individual state owner). Telephone codes will likely be a livelier conversation that should be posted in the forum for further discussion. -TheMayor (talk) 18:31, 3 May 2019 (CEST)
Good to know, that Alorman is region "9". Sorry, that I remember an other result of this discussion.
@ Wangi: You mean, that the AR120-XX number can be the leading digits for things as ZIP-code and/or Telephone-Code? Why not. New Carnaby with its "11" then it is a good base for a city like Stanton.
P.S. Oakhill (AR120-03) you can set blue in yout list - I answered all questions. --Histor (talk) 20:07, 3 May 2019 (CEST)
I had thought that it was state code and 4 numbers (for TN, 13xxxx). If we settle on three, then that is fine.
Rhiney boi (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2019 (CEST)
About telephone numbers, I nominate the following plan.
10 digit number xx-xxx-xxxxx
The first two digits represent the state code
Each state is allowed to have their own plan for the other 8 numbers.
Emergency number is 131 (I, as owner of AR120-13, am fine with letting the emergency number take my state code number).
Rhiney boi (talk) 22:10, 5 May 2019 (CEST)
This will not run fine. State-code for New Carnaby is "11" and then 8 digits? What with a town like Stanton with nearly 9 000 000 inhabitants? On the other hand a state like Oakhill (03) with 400 000 inhabitants - why 8 digits? --Histor (talk) 00:03, 6 May 2019 (CEST)
I didn't consider that. Apologies.
I just wanted some variation instead of xxx-xxx-xxxx. Maybe we could do xxxx-xx-xxxx instead, with a list of 4-digit area codes for each state?
Rhiney boi (talk) 00:16, 6 May 2019 (CEST)

Statistics showing mapping progress

A new tool to count the "amount of mapping":

  • AR120-03: 196678 nodes + 37254 ways + 227 relations = 234159 in total
  • AR120-04: 66928 nodes + 7196 ways + 335 relations = 74459 in total
  • AR120-07: 25905 nodes + 1566 ways + 116 relations = 27587 in total
  • AR120-09: 233092 nodes + 14036 ways + 85 relations = 247213 in total
  • AR120-11: 506850 nodes + 66120 ways + 748 relations = 573718 in total
  • AR120-12: 42828 nodes + 5319 ways + 83 relations = 48230 in total
  • AR120-13: 144727 nodes + 35912 ways + 11 relations = 180650 in total
  • AR120-14: 5970 nodes + 750 ways + 6 relations = 6726 in total
  • AR120-15: 180555 nodes + 15595 ways + 64 relations = 196214 in total
  • AR120-16: 5237 nodes + 218 ways + 5 relations = 5460 in total
  • AR120-17: 70363 nodes + 6479 ways + 5 relations = 76847 in total
  • AR120-19: 25155 nodes + 2547 ways + 55 relations = 27757 in total
  • AR120-43: 145592 nodes + 6125 ways + 113 relations = 151830 in total
  • AR120-44: 18401 nodes + 1347 ways + 45 relations = 19793 in total
  • AR120-51: 15944 nodes + 1280 ways + 37 relations = 17261 in total
  • AR120-52: 29833 nodes + 2951 ways + 11 relations = 32795 in total
  • AR120-53: 15861 nodes + 2452 ways + 14 relations = 18327 in total
  • AR120-54: 62612 nodes + 8276 ways + 14 relations = 70902 in total
  • AR120-58: 360246 nodes + 24414 ways + 1251 relations = 385911 in total
  • AR120-59: 40181 nodes + 3829 ways + 48 relations = 44058 in total
  • AR120-63: 180477 nodes + 30152 ways + 256 relations = 210885 in total
  • AR120-71: 54205 nodes + 2928 ways + 87 relations = 57220 in total
  • AR120-84: 47550 nodes + 808 ways + 76 relations = 48434 in total
  • AR120-91: 337746 nodes + 13049 ways + 272 relations = 351067 in total
Unfortunately, the number says nothing about quality. But enjoy!--Mstr (talk) 17:38, 17 July 2019 (CEST)
Ratio of average nodes per way could indicate some quality —Zytik (talk) 19:03, 17 July 2019 (CEST)
Cool. How do you collect this data? --Yoyo21 (talk) 23:18, 17 July 2019 (CEST)
Look at the source code, it's a simple overpass query.--Mstr (talk) 23:28, 17 July 2019 (CEST)
Does more or less nodes per way indicate better mapping quality? --Megacity2005Creator (talk) 01:11, 18 July 2019 (CEST)
In general not. If you think of a single building simply mapped by 4 nodes or the same building mapped with much more details, you would have more nodes per way. On the other hand there are many tags placed on single nodes, not mapping them would "improve" your mapping since it promotes the ratio. Since relations are technically more difficult, the number of relations might be an indicator. But counting the number of tags per node/way would also indicate detailed mapping. Or like Luciano does it, count the names. So judging about quality was not the purpose of this template.--Mstr (talk) 02:03, 18 July 2019 (CEST)

Railways

If you set your railway in a link I think that is it. This leads to further information. It is not helpful to set a map in this oversight, this maps you can see in the special article. Now you must scroll and scroll to have an oversight. This is only the generally FSA-article, no special railway article. So let us delete this maps. Other meaning? --Histor (talk)

I nested the maps into a gallery, which I think is a good compromise. -TheMayor (talk) 21:54, 17 July 2019 (CEST)
o.k. - better so as before. --Histor (talk) 00:08, 18 July 2019 (CEST)