Talk:Ingerish

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This is a great article. Thanks for writing it! Myrcia (talk) 13:57, 12 April 2016 (CEST)

Linguistic and historical relationships

Of course there are going to unresolved issues with 'Ingerish' since it has relationships with other languages which have no historical presence in OGF (at least yet). But to be clear on what has more or less been agreed on other wiki pages (which this page summarises): Ingerish developed in Ingerland; it is related to languages in surrounding areas, especially Kalm, and it spread around the world from Ingerland and other West Ulethan Ingerish-speaking countries (Pretany, Wesmandy, Ionadàlba etc).--Udilugbuldigu (talk) 14:22, 12 April 2016 (CEST)

Slight hiccup there. 'Old Saxon' is the English name for a real world language; in the absence of an OGF equivalent (?) I've removed this particular term to make the origin of 'Lower Germish' a little more OGF specific. Also, since there is no 'Anglo-Saxon' equivalent in OGF (?), I've entirely removed that reference - it can/should be added later if that comes along. Perhaps these historical elements could/should be developed on the page for the Lower Germish language rather than for Ingerish.--Udilugbuldigu (talk) 14:22, 12 April 2016 (CEST)

No inglo-saxons, no old saxons - or both. In the german linguistic we have the termini - "Altsächsisch" (old saxon) and not "Altniederdeutsch" (old lower german) - "Mittelniederdeutsch" (middle lower german) - Niederdeutsch / Plattdeutsch (lower german / "flat" german), which is spoken today most in northern Germany (Niedersachsen - lower Saxony and around). As it is known, the folk of the saxons in northern germany are an own country til roundabout 800 AD, before Charles the great conquered them. This termini show, that lo-german has the connection to the roots of the english language, not the hi-german languages or dialects (anchestor of today spoken german). So I think, in the OGF-article "ingerish" we can speak about "inglo-sackson" or "inglo-sassn" or so, because the language in Zylanda is named "sassn" by the zylandians. --Histor (talk) 22:11, 12 April 2016 (CEST)
It would probably be good to develop some clearer ideas about the languages that are closely - and historically - related to Ingerish. I'm thinking particularly of Kalmish and other forms of Ingerish, particularly Pretanic Ingerish, Myrcian and Lallans (Ionadàlba) - languages which probably share some of these (OGF terminology) Low Gaermanic roots, as well as Zylandan. Although this page does currently refer to other languages to which Ingerish is related (e.g. Zylandan, Myrcian), languages which have had an influence on Ingerish language development would be much more relevant. The Ingerish definitions of the language groups are taken from the page List_of_language_groups which defines Ingerish as a Low Gaermanic language, along with Sassn and others. Inglo-Sackson isn't mentioned there or elsewhere in OGF, as far as I know. The consensus seems to be that Ingerish developed in NW Uletha, and logically Ingerish would have followed a similar path in linguistic development as it did in the real world. So there must be an OGF parallel Anglo-Saxon (pAS), or Old Saxon; it doesn't have to be called Saxon though. It might be possible to develop the historical roots of pAS without collaboration with the owners of the Gaerman-speaking countries in NW Uletha (though I’m not sure exactly which countries these are), but I think that is a much harder task than for Ingerish - which is clearly related to a single country (in name) and to a real world language. I think, however, these would all be separate projects. Because it affects those other countries I don't think these ideas can go in the Ingerish article until they have been further developed elsewhere. --Udilugbuldigu (talk) 23:24, 12 April 2016 (CEST)

Kalm - so I see - is there the greatest german speaking land in NW Uletha. So you may clear it in this relation? --Histor (talk) 00:01, 13 April 2016 (CEST)

It could be Kalm that was ancestral to Ingerish and other LG languages - but it might be Schwaldia or Scandmark (Saxon placenames in NW Scandmark). I've those contacted owners, awaiting replies on this.--Udilugbuldigu (talk) 08:22, 13 April 2016 (CEST)

Origins and development - Old Ingerish - Kalm & Florescenta

This information added following correspondence with users Joschi81 and Andy. --Udilugbuldigu (talk) 13:24, 25 April 2016 (CEST)