Talk:List of notable railway stations
I felt like such a page was missing; I hope it doesn't look too bad, but if you have any proposals about how it could be done better let's discuss here! I'm especially concerned with how we should treat the data regarding long distance vs. short distance railway, how do we treat light rail that connects to a station, how do we count SBahn or alike systems... etc. It's sometimes really hard to differentiate between (sub)urban mass transit and regional railway services; so, would you recommend any changes to the table I built?Leowezy (talk) 21:55, 9 April 2016 (CEST)
1500 trains at 16 platforms at a terminus station?
O.k. - each track 93,75 moves at a day. A day has 1440 minutes - so for one move is roundabout 15 minutes time. Theoretically. Most traffic is dayover, not in the night, so that at day only 8 to 10 minutes are realistic. Good luck!
- While I think you're right, keep in mind that not everyone has such in-depth knowledge about railways; this page could be a good start for comparing one's own stations with others, and noticing shortcomings such as this one. (Also, if you add adjacent tram stops into the equation it might doesn't end up that unrealistic at all.) As far as I know, Mergany is far from being finished, and I don't see why it wouldn't be ok to add stations on the list as "place holders"; after all it's really hard to think about detailed data about rail traffic when the basic settlement structures aren't even laid out yet. I'm sure I'll find myself making a ton of changes regarding these little data pieces.Leowezy (talk) 23:08, 10 April 2016 (CEST)
- Thanks for your explanation. You are right, of course, 1 500 trains per day at a terminus is too much. I think 400-700 per day is realistic, dependent one the tracks in front of the station. The station has 4 tracks in the underground (ok, so far only 2 of them are mapped), which are used for long distance trains, local trains and "S-Bahn" like trains (Metex). I do not distinguish between them, and the Metex runs every 120-180 s in each direction. Stuttgart Hbf has for example 1200 trains per day, my S-Bahn has twice this capacity, so 1500 can be realistic. I will be more in detail when all railway lines are mapped, I can give a more precise number...--Mstr (talk) 23:41, 10 April 2016 (CEST)
Do you think transferring passengers should count double? In the RW transfers are often difficult to keep apart, but in our fictional world we can just make the data up as we want. Also, I am aware that Aku-Dyanchezi is reaching pretty high passenger numbers with 1 and a half million passengers a day; it would put it about 6th in our real world passenger wise, and on an uncontested number one for stations outside Japan (Gare du Nord in Paris is the most frequented station outside of Japan at ~700,000). But hey, I'm a transit lover and I think I can back up those numbers with the general city layout and Kojo's modal share.Leowezy (talk) 17:27, 24 April 2017 (CEST)
- Statistic is a special thing. In the wiki-list of european stations after the Gare du Nord with 214 000 000 passengers (at day 585 900) follows Hamburg Hauptbahnhof with 175 000 000 (479 124 dayly). Zürich from the japanese list is only # 4. What all is counted at the japanese stations - I do not know the basic.
- Hamburg has 12 tracks, from them 4 for the S-Bahn (commuter rail). The other 8 (5 to 8 and 11 to 14) are long 800 m and can be used for two shorter or one longer train, so you can calculate in average with 12 tracks instead of 8. Nevertheless the traffic is at the limit. So you can see, how many tracks you need for your passengers.
- I think, it is to count "one" for each person, which start at this station or arrive and too only "one" who transferres at the station. And all pepole, who stay in the through-going train are to count with "zero" --Histor (talk) 00:01, 25 April 2017 (CEST)
- Interesting points. I was referencing this list (original file at the bottom), which clearly favours japanese stations. I think however, taking the number of platforms as a strict guide for the passenger capacity can be misleading. Besides the question how long trains might be (or if they are bi-level) rapid transit tends to have a far higher number of passengers than regular regional rail connections. (And of course terminus stations need more platforms to handle the same amount of trains compared to through stations). But it's definitely something I/we should keep in mind when designing our railway stations of course.
- I see your point in that it would make much more sense for the "business" of a station to count the number of "unique" passengers, instead of counting transfers double. However that would demand to think very specifically about what the transfer relations between the different lines are, and I think for now that's very difficult for me to do. For me it's much easier to guesstimate how many passengers would take for example one of the 4 metro lines, how many would use the Papache etc, and not worry about whether they entered the station on the subway, by bus, by foot or from a suburban commuter train. Leowezy (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2017 (CEST)
I think one of the biggest things that separates Japan from other nations is how integral Train use is to daily life, especially in Tokyo. The fact that kids as little as elementary are allowed to ride the train and no one takes serious notice in some of the densest parts of Tokyo is amazing to most people from foreign nations. I also think the way their Train stations are built is partly unfair, in that lots of people might transfer at one station, well as in Europe it might be a direct line from the suburb to the city center. This is why you see the ridiculous numbers in places like Ikebukuro, Shinjuku and Shibuya IMO. Portopolis (talk)