Talk:OGF:Federal States/Submissions

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I have a suggestion for the political system: it will be the same as the USA (with bicameral Congress, presidential system, etc.) but we have three major political parties instead of two. FictiveJ (talk) 06:34, 29 April 2018 (CEST)

I do agree. It will be more fun if it is a three-way fight in elections.

One thing that puzzles, why isnt there a section for a nationwide railway system in AR120?--Happy mapping and God bleses you, ZK (talk) 03:15, 30 April 2018 (CEST)

@FictiveJ - I think it's too early to be thinking about political structures. The country doesn't even have a name yet. ... ... @zhenkang - the short answer about railways: The US national railway system (Amtrak) is so bad it's essentially unused and bankrupt, except the subdivision which runs the Northeast Corridor. Therefore if we are going to imitate the US, we'll have an equally bad national railway system. That said, the US has many quite good regional railways, and each region's developers will want to include similar projects.--Luciano (talk) 06:07, 30 April 2018 (CEST)
Luciano is correct, there will be a lot more issues discussed later. Just because something isn't listed here doesn't mean it won't be addressed by AR120 mappers at a later date. --Isleño (talk) 06:35, 30 April 2018 (CEST)
Actually, in the freight regime, there are only 4 large railway companies left (Norfolk Southern and CSX in the east, and BNSF and Union Pacific in the west. All span a dozen states or more. How are we going to mime those mega-railroads ? It would require the coordination of a number of users at a time. --Marcello (talk) 19:52, 02 May 2018 (CEST)
What could be done, and would actually result in some rather realistic results, would be to somewhat parallel the development of the modern Class 1 [as is the r.w. Federal Railroad Administration term] railroads by having users draw out their own regional/state-level network/networks which would later be 'merged' into the larger Class 1 structures. Depending on how users handle the interchanges (think border crossings between company networks) or lack thereof (hopefully working together to avoid just following state lines), we could end up with the sort of realistic duplication (i.e. two companies with more-or-less parallel, competing lines between points) which occurs frequently in the real USA network. This would of course probably require a railroad coordinator for each of the 'Railroads of National Importance', but would give users the flexibility to plan out their state level networks independently. --Reece202 (talk) 20:31, 20 May 2018 (CEST)

What is the schedule for voting on these options?Yuanls (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2018 (CEST)

Voting will be limited to mappers who own territory in AR120, so we're going to give people another week or two to decide whether or not they want in. After the membership stabilizes, they'll start discussing/voting on the various questions. --Isleño (talk) 22:22, 30 April 2018 (CEST)
Then what about those who want to map in the collaborative states instead?--Happy mapping and God bleses you, ZK (talk) 03:15, 1 May 2018 (CEST)
Those of us who plan to map in the collaborative states get to make these kinds of decisions in the various territories we own, all over the world. Most of the AR120 territory owners don't have territories elsewhere, and/or gave up territories to join this project, so they're the ones who get to make these decisions for AR120. --Isleño (talk) 06:18, 1 May 2018 (CEST)
Maybe it would be a good idea to have a small number of "founding collaborators" that are only allowed to vote for the questions pertaining to the collaborative states? I completely understand the larger aspect that people who gave up territory and claimed states would have primary say nationwide, but it does seem like there are a particular couple people who have expressed interest in primarily contributing to the collaborative states in a way that, if they are actually dedicated to it to the level that the OGF:Gobras City project was set up with people with quality mapping and at least some significant mapping done claiming roles, might deserve a tad bit of a say so. I say this as someone who is one of the state owners --Ernestpcosby (talk) 13:25, 1 May 2018 (CEST)
We do expect that the coordinators of the three official collaborative states will get a vote (on all matters) since they too are making a significant commitment to AR120. So if there are experienced mappers who are planning major involvement in one of the collabs, they should feel free to contact admin about the possibility of serving as coordinator. If the state owners want to open up votes about the collab states to even more mappers, they could certainly vote to do that. --Isleño (talk) 16:29, 1 May 2018 (CEST)


Is AR120 free to edit right now? I see a state just east to Capital Area, called Newlynn, with some (good) natural landuse and village names... -- BMSOUZA (talk) 16:33, 30 April 2018 (CEST)

So far, nine states have been claimed, and Newlynn is one of them. The collaborative states will open once coordinators can be selected for those projects. --Isleño (talk) 22:22, 30 April 2018 (CEST)

Road numbering

What with all the suggestions for east/west numbering schemes for highways... Might it not be likely the orientation of the country is more NW / NE diagonals?

And if the capital was central, then a radial system would have potential?

/wangi (talk) 02:26, 19 May 2018 (CEST)

Please feel free to submit creative ideas like these! It would be great if all the mappers involved in AR120 could keep an eye on the submissions page, and make suggestions in sections where they aren't satisfied with the options others have submitted. It's no fun opening up the ballot and discovering that you dislike all the choices, haha. --Isleño (talk) 20:13, 21 May 2018 (CEST)
If I was being bold... I'd take all the suggestions so far and add them to this discussion, invite folk to this section, and then get some talk going about it before people put forward "final" submissions for voting? Let ideas get formed, a bit of consensus?
And yeah, I bet it is! /wangi (talk) 01:11, 22 May 2018 (CEST)
Feel free to start a discussion thread in the AR120 forums... --Isleño (talk) 01:24, 22 May 2018 (CEST)
Sure, see: Special:WikiForum/Highway plan /wangi (talk) 01:41, 22 May 2018 (CEST)


How about a gif of expansion to standardize history? Like some histories say that Ingerland took over the Castellan colonies before independence. Others say that the middle was Manifested by the Effesians. What do we do?
Rhiney boi (talk) 23:37, 6 May 2019 (CEST)

Right now I think the best option is to let each state offer up their own history, see where the commonalities and major differences between neighbors/within each region lie, and work on incrementally building the FSA history from what we all already agree on first. -TheMayor (talk) 23:54, 6 May 2019 (CEST)

Future of this page

This page has no purpose as it stands, so if this page doesn't have a future use in mind, we should archive it or delete it. --Yoyo21 (talk) 03:19, 4 April 2020 (CEST)