Talk:Paxair

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Original W40 discussion moved to Talk:Watanabe_Aerospace

Being Added to the Paxair Flight Schedule

I'm happy to add additional destinations to the Paxair schedule, but it helps to have a little information first.

  • Name of the city
  • Airport name, if it has one
  • 3-letter code for the airport (check to make sure it's not already being used at the Airport page.
  • Location of the airport (map link works fine)
  • Population of your country and of the city, which helps estimate the number of passengers, and then the frequency of flights. (If you have a small island nation with 1000 inhabitants, 5 daily flights may be too many.)
  • Time zone. I've been using the second map on this page: Talk:World_Time

A good place to put much of the information is the Airport page. The rest you can send to me, or post here.

No problem if you haven't mapped your airport, but if you have, keep in mind that real-world airports, with large aircraft coming in, have runway lengths in the 2700 - 3000 meter range, with some going above 4000m.

It takes a little effort to update the Paxair Schedule and the route maps, so your city may not appear right away. You are welcome to send me a reminder if it seems like its taking a long time!

--Paxtar (talk) 05:17, 21 July 2015 (CEST)

Flight Schedule

My original reason for wanting to set up a timetable was to determine how many aircraft I needed to reach all the destinations on the Paxair destination list.

To try to make the timetable realistic, I had to consider: distance between cities flight times based on aircraft; turn-around time for aircraft (refuel, unload and load passengers and freight); populations of cities and/or countries; whether a flight is domestic (higher percentage of travel) or international. There are also many many others that I had no way to evaluate or factor in.

The schedule was generated using Filemaker Pro to store all the city, route, schedule, flights, fleet, and aircraft data. A series of scripts simulated travel between cities, updating each aircraft's status, and produced a list of flights that were either on schedule, required adjustment, or showed a need for another aircraft.

The whole thing took a little longer than I thought it would, but I finally know how many aircraft I need.

Thanks to everyone who allowed me to use their cities, and for providing information about them.

If any errors are spotted, spelling, etc., please let me know and I'll correct them.

--Paxtar (talk) 08:10, 2 May 2015 (CEST)
You invert info about (B) and (C) int the schedule! -- BMSOUZA 2 May 2015
Thank you for letting me know! -- Paxtar (talk) 16:05, 2 May 2015 (CEST)
Terrific work, it really adds realism to the article. I'd love to see this for every airline in the world. I wonder though if it might be better to put this as an expandable table (if that's possible) as it takes up quite a lot of the page.--Sarepava (talk) 19:03, 4 May 2015 (CEST)
I was going to post it to a separate page, but thought I'd avoid clicking around by putting it all here. And, after all the work, I wanted someone to at least see it! If it's too much, I can move it. --Paxtar (talk) 20:42, 4 May 2015 (CEST)
I'm attempting to make a table of flights for FreedemiAir, but I haven't finished it yet. I don't have any softwares for flight times or anything, but this is what I've got. Any Advice? see here --Ernestpcosby (talk) 21:07, 4 May 2015 (CEST)
I didn't see this message until after I sent my file link.  :) Good timing assuming you're able to use the file. I would start by doing everything in your local time. Once you determine your departures and arrivals, then update the times to local. Don't forget to add 60-120 minute for turn-around time. Refuel, load/unload, etc. Small planes need less. Big planes on long flights need more. Assuming a plane leaves a 12:00 in the morning, and takes 8 hours to arrive, 90 minutes to turn around, and 8 hours to get back, you'd have 00:00 - 08:00 flying, 08:30 - 10:00, on the ground, 10:00 - 18:00 flying back. After another 90-120 minutes, the plane could leave on a late flight for another destination. You just need to shift the times, time zones, and update the numbers to make them work for you. I roughly based my flight numbers on Lufthansa numbers. FRA-LAX flight 450. The return LAX-FRA is 451. Even numbers out of Germany, odd number flying back in. The numbers seem to go in pairs. Domestic flight numbers seem more jumbled and I did not spend any time looking for a pattern. If you want to be less crazy than I was, a to/from listing with flight times, aircraft and days works really well. --Paxtar (talk) 22:45, 4 May 2015 (CEST)
Thanks, will try to make the modifications soon- probably within 2 days or so --Ernestpcosby (talk) 01:48, 5 May 2015 (CEST)

Quentinsburgh Freedemia Flights Possible?

Hello, I was wondering if it would be possible for Paxair to eventually begin servicing Quentinsburgh, Freedemia. I noticed, though that it would probably be the closest international location if you did... Is it too close? Otherwise, could this flight, maybe 1 daily be possible? If more ends up being needed, I can complement with parallel service from FreedemiAir. Also, are your supersonic jets by Watanabe for sale or are they only for the Paxtarian government? If they are for sale, would it be possible for FreedemiAir to eventually buy a few for our longer distance flights? Thanks, --Ernestpcosby (talk) 06:12, 25 April 2015 (CEST)


I've added Quentinsburgh to my destination list. At 3841km you are the closest international destination. Latina (C) is the next closest at 4061km. It will be nice to have more flights in the 'neighborhood.'

Can you provide an estimated population for Freedemia? Nothing official, just something on which to base air traffic demand.

I'm currently working on a timetable, map and updated destination list, so you won't see the update until I am finished.

I've been keeping the W40s exclusively for Paxair. At some point I'll get around to modifying the 3D model to fix some problems and to make it more friendly to adding paint jobs from other airlines, if they're interested. Watanabe Aerospace be able to 'sell' them then. --Paxtar (talk) 18:23, 25 April 2015 (CEST)

And I would be happy to have FreedemiAir fly to Safrisco. --Paxtar (talk) 18:27, 25 April 2015 (CEST)

Currently my best estimate of population would be around 50 million, although the final number will probably be higher. Thanks again, I will attempt to add Safrisco to my flight lists soon. And I understand about the W40's. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 19:15, 25 April 2015 (CEST)


...and flights to Campo Verde (Brasonia)???

Hi, Paxtar! Sorry, I did not answer that topic you ask about estimated population in countries Paxair fly to. Belgravia (Paxair fly to Slovech) is around 5 million, and Cariocas (Itacolomi) around 3million. But now I ask you about flights to Campo Verde. Brasonia would be around 15 million inhabitants. What do you say abour it?? Regards! -- BMSOUZA 02 May 2015

Campo Verde is now on the schedule. --Paxtar (talk) 01:32, 5 May 2015 (CEST)

Flights to B'tuaga/regional partnership?

So I know I'm a little late to the party, but is there any way there could be flights to B'tuaga (as we're next-door neighbors)? If not, that's all right. Also, is there any way there could be some sort of partnership between Paxair and the three B'tuagan airlines that I'm planning? Thanks. Imhotep (talk)

It's OK to be late the party, as long as you show up! I can add flights to B'tuaga CXI and KPI with my next schedule update. Can you provide a population for the country, and for the two cities/regions? Estimates are fine. Those will help me estimate air traffic demand. What do you have in mind in the way of air partnerships? --Paxtar (talk) 06:32, 11 May 2015 (CEST)
Well, CXI would be about 1,000,000, and KPI would be about 500,000. There will also be a third international airport (MSC) that will serve about 300,000 and the national capital, but I haven't quite figured out exactly where that goes yet. (EDIT: I placed it preliminarily on the map) And on the partnership thing, it was just an idea I had that I really haven't fleshed out yet. My airlines don't even have pages yet (but one has a logo)! It would be something like the Delta-KLM-Air France partnership if it ever happens. Imhotep (talk

...and flights to Alcantara (Luslandia)???

Me, again, sorry, hehe. Now asking you about flights to Alcântara, in Luslandia. Alcântara (http://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/-22.4570/49.0858) would be around 3 million inhabitants. All Luslandia, maybe 10 millions. What do you say about it?? Could include it in next change?? hehehe!! Regards! -- BMSOUZA 02 May 2015

If you add the airport to the Airports page I'll grab the 3-letter code and airport name from there. --Paxtar (talk) 21:01, 11 May 2015 (CEST)
I put it there! -- BMSOUZA 02 May 2015

Blanked page??

What happens?? -- BMSOUZA 31 May 2015

I've become overly distracted by OGF, and it's affecting my real-world life. Trying to reduce the distraction by clearing (for now) many of the articles. Going to stick to mapping for a bit, and try to find a better balance in my life when it comes to the wiki. --Paxtar (talk) 04:47, 1 June 2015 (CEST)
That's understandable, and I respect it. What I don't get is why this should be a reason to blank perfectly fine articles (as I remember them) that already exist? --Thilo (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2015 (CEST)
Happy you are bringing the complete page again!! -- BMSOUZA 22 Jun 2015

Flights to Southern Archanta (Řots)

Hi Paxtar, on the very nice Paxair flights GIF I saw that Paxair doesn't service the southern part of Archanta (otherwise known as Astrasia). Would they be interested in a connection to Nekkar International Airport (Nekkā Pereerabardu Vekiprusuda) in Řots? (Based on the previous message, there's no rush. Also: the Nekkar airport hasn't been elaborated on the map in much detail yet; I hope that that won't be a problem) --Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 07:58, 20 July 2015 (CEST)

I just put some information near the top of the page regarding being added to the schedule. I've entered what you listed so far, but take a look above, and let me know the rest. Thanks! --Paxtar (talk) 05:17, 21 July 2015 (CEST)
Sorry, I missed the first post... The information about Nekkar IA is now on the Airport page. Nekkar itself has 913,000 inhabitants, but will also serve the surrounding provinces (especially the more populous province of Glep, north of Nekkar). If I guess correctly based on the scale, the runway should have a sufficient length, although the terminal and other facilities are small and old-fashioned. There are plans to construct a whole new airport though. The timezone should be +9. --Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 08:21, 21 July 2015 (CEST)
You didn't miss the post because it wasn't there earlier. I put it up thinking it would save time in the future. I've got Nekka in the scheduler, and it will be included with my next update. Your runway looks like its about 5KM, so plenty of length for pretty much anything. Thanks! --Paxtar (talk) 21:14, 21 July 2015 (CEST)