Talk:Tarephia

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I made this... Tarephiamap.png --Tito zz (talk) 23:07, 25 July 2018 (CEST)

Moving Day(s)

Hi, sorry if this is quite insignificant to the rest of Tarephia, but for those of my neighbours who have noticed, yes, Beaumontan is moving. It's not far away (https://opengeofiction.net/#map=8/-12.047/26.224), so I hope I can continue to participate in the area's events.

Now, out of honour to the area, I've decided to leave everything in Old Beaumontan that I did not want to take, but condsidered good mapping (I will delete the rest, which means that by my standards, quite a percentage of the nation will be cleared), so at least I will not forget how my neighbours have helped me out so kindly and improved my mapping skills to where it is now.

I hope that the area will continue to prosper as it has before, and I hope that whoever moves into TA114j next will be treated with the same respect, kindness, and willingness to teach (me also hoping that they're willing to learn) that you have showed me. Truly, it's been an honour to map in our neighbourhood.

To my new neighbours, I say this: I hope that we can work well, and collaborate not only amongst each other, but with all of Tarephia, and make this map great.

Thanks, Zekiel

Demographics

"As a testament to the historic colonization of Tarephia, the majority of the peoples speak the languages of the former colonial powers. Castellanese is the predominant national language, followed by Ingerish, Franquese, and Florescentian"

Does anyone else object to a statement like this being enshrined in the main page for an entire continent? Particularly a continent where more than half of the land area has yet to be claimed? You cannot say Tarephia's predominant national language is Castellanese any more than you can say that the majority of people speak colonial languages. There's nowhere near enough development yet to make that claim. --Louis walker (talk) 05:45, 27 March 2019 (CET)

Hi Louis, as a courtesy, I would have appreciated a personal message and a chance to discuss the updates to the page. That said, I recognize that the continental pages are always changing as people come and go. Although my intention merely to describe the continent as it is, and not to limit the languages that people could map in, I do realize now that I could have picked a better word to describe the national languages than "predominant." I was trying to convey the fact that of the nations mapped in Tarephia, the largest portion of them (not the majority) have Castellanese as the national language. What do you propose for better wording? Chazeltine (talk) 06:37, 27 March 2019 (CET)
Once a change happens to a public wiki page, isn't it meant to be open to public discussion? In terms of what to propose, l don't really see what having this section adds, since the continent hasn't been developed enough yet to make broad statements about its demographics. BMSOUZA has done a good job of outlining the broad trends of what kinds of mapping are expected in Tarephia in the Territory Administration section. I just don't see why this is info is necessary on the wiki page, since it could be misleading to future users. --Louis walker (talk) 23:14, 27 March 2019 (CET)
Louis, yes it is open for public discussion; however this was my change, and I felt that you offhandedly called attention to my edit. Was is really necessary to take my mistake and wave it around for all the community to see? Because that's what I feel you did. If you wanted to let me know that maybe what I had done wasn't the best idea, I felt that you could have handled the situation with more grace. Chazeltine (talk) 04:00, 28 March 2019 (CET)
Hi, friends. Chazeltine talk to me about writing things about Tarephia in a sandbox. I agree it is a hard thing to do. As Tarephia coordinator, I try to set some rules but I also can not be like a dictator. Writing detailed things like Chazeltine is doing, is a dangerous thing, but I also can not say it is not a good thing... Example? Yes, in southern Tarephia (and possibly, more areas), the latin influence is very strong, also because the general vision is something between Latin America + (North??) Africa. But also in Northeastern Tarephia, Al-Kaza is a nice example of a not-latin country fiting very well in the continent - also speaking about it, maybe will be created another purple territory and it will be not-latin. Things to be discussed, hehehe -- BMSOUZA (talk) 00:02, 28 March 2019 (CET)
My concern is that this will influence new users, since it makes a significant claim about language that, on the top-level page for Tarephia, seems pretty official. If I'm a new user trying to figure out where to request a territory and I see that Tarephia is "predominantly" Castellanese-speaking, and I don't want to map in Spanish, I might think "Ok, that's not for me then." Meanwhile there is Middle Eastern influence up north. You could have someone take over the massive TA013 tomorrow and start mapping in Swahili and state a population of 200 million—not unrealistic for an area that large. Suddenly Castellanese is not so predominant. In the meantime, what do we actually gain by having this stated as a fact?
Also, I just checked, and there are four countries listed on the Tarephia page with Castellanese listed as their official language while another four speak Latinian, which as far as I can tell is separate. Even if you combine them, that's barely more than a quarter of the countries in the half of Tarephia that's actually been claimed.
If including language is desirable, why not just add a column to the table for National Language?--Louis walker (talk) 00:36, 28 March 2019 (CET)
All very valid points. For languages, I was modeling off the South America and Africa pages. My intent is not to list the languages out country by country, but rather to provide a general description of the linguistic landscape of Tarephia. Maybe the Africa section on languages is a good model? That way this article is not so dry and has more depth. Chazeltine (talk) 04:00, 28 March 2019 (CET)
Those are fascinating maps, but we do not have that level of detail or control in OGF. If we're going to have a big discussion as a group of mappers about the continent's general history, great. I am definitely interested in participating. But that has to be a conversation. --Louis walker (talk) 04:41, 28 March 2019 (CET)

Tarephia Cultural Regions

To visualize Tarephia's cultures more easily, here is a map of the native and colonial demographics on Tarephia. This is a reflection of the map as it stands now; it is not meant to guide future mapping. We can update the map as cultures change. Chazeltine (talk) 16:09, 23 December 2019 (CET)

Tarephia Cultural Regions.png

Just a side note. Although Auronia was an Ingerish colony for about 30 years, the population is still, well, Auronian, and the culture is not Ingerish, but could be classified as the indigenous lands. :) --JoJoBa (talk) 18:16, 23 December 2019 (CET)
It's such a shame how so many countries want to be a fromer Ingerish colony just to have a high HDI or the ability to use English when mapping... If only more people could map like JoJoBa, then the world would be more balanced.
IiEarth (talk) 18:32, 24 December 2019 (CET)
Because of this, as Tarephia coordinator, I avoid users requesting territories looking for creating "a former ingerish colony". -- BMSOUZA (talk) 15:27, 25 December 2019 (CET)
Being an Ingerish colony doesn't necessarily mean high HDI. JoJoBa (talk) 20:49, 17 February 2020 (CET)
While it does not need to mean a high HDI, it's a way that people can get what they want.
--IiEarth (talk) 21:02, 17 February 2020 (CET)

Etymology

I've written the following etymology for "Tarephia" and "Antarephia:"
The names Tarephia and Antarephia can be traced to Baveili mythology. In Baveili mythology, the Tarephim were a race of winged humans. When the Baveilis landed on what is today the island of Tarephim in Meilan, they discovered caves containing depictions of winged humans. Believing that they had found the land of the winged humans, the Baveilis called the island Tarephim. As the Baveilis migrated westward through the Strait of Lyc, they eventually applied the name of Tarephim to the entire mainland.

When the Franquese arrived, they called region Tarephie, or Tarephia, as the Baveilis had referred to the land. Through the Franquese, "Tarephia" entered Ulethan books and maps. Today, "Tarephia" is used to refer to the entire continent.

I had done an internet search of the word "tarephim" and found the Teraphim, which are apparently idols or other disgraceful things from rabbinical literature. I'm adapting the term into OGF by taking the idea of the disgraced fallen angels from Biblical literature and further modifying that idea to create a OGF mythological race of winged humans that the Baveilis called the Tarephim. Chazeltine (talk) 02:07, 17 February 2020 (CET)

Oh, I found Tareph - a figure of World of Warcraft - seemed to be one of the better roles there. But your story is nice and so it may had happen. Earnestly - so far as I know this name has no etymology, it is taken only for his sound. Named are all continents by thilo and I think, he can say something about the etymology, if he want - or not. --Histor (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2020 (CET)