Talk:Tarephia Cooperation Council

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If your nation is part of Tarephia, your nation may choose to join the Tarephia Cooperation Council as a member nation.
To join, add your nation to the list of nations on the main page.

Feel free to contribute ideas and to update the main page periodically as we continue to discuss and agree upon new developments in the Tarephia Cooperation Council. Chazeltine (talk) 08:00, 20 July 2018 (CEST)

Purpose and Mission of the TCC

(As agreed upon by the TCC community; proposed changes should be added to the Discussion Points section)

Purpose

  • Facilitate free trade and freedom of movement of people, goods, and ideas.

Mission

  • Facilitate movement of goods and people
    • Visa-free system
  • Organization of the TCC
    • Diplomatic Mission to the AN
    • Council of States
  • Currency System
    • "Core and Pegs" Currency System
  • Research institutions supported by the TCC

Organization

  • Secretariat (Cuidad Latina, Latina)
  • Diplomatic Mission to the Assembly of Nations
  • Council of States (the annual forum at the TCC headquarters)
  • Research Initiatives

Discussion Points

Discussion: Table of Members
Member states Application TCC law TCC citizenship TCC elections Free borders Tarezone
Allendea-Flag.png Allendea Yes Yes Yes Yes With ALP
BanderaDeAmmirice.png Ammirice No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Yes Yes Yes No [1] Yes
DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
2band slovech.png Belgravia
?
?
?
?
?
2band brasonia.jpg Brasonia
?
?
?
?
No (?)
borde Cabo Mufti Yes Yes Yes Yes No (MSM and ?)
borde Cinasia
?
?
?
?
No (KPD)
Damenstrom Flag.png Damenstrom
?
?
?
?
?
FlagofEicarl.jpg Eicarl Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
FreedemianFlag.jpg Freedemia
?
?
?
Automatic visa from TCC member countries with Passport Yes, alongside FRD
borde Frías Yes Yes Yes Yes No (MSM)
Islatramma Flag.jpg Islatramma
?
?
?
?
No (ITS)
Flag of Kotel.png Kotel
?
?
?
?
No (TIT)
Latflag.png Latina No Yes Yes Yes No LLL
2band lusland.png Luslandia
?
?
?
?
No (?)
Nahele republic.png Nahele Republic
?
?
?
?
With NAP
AáaFlag1.png Ncadia
?
?
?
?
No (NCL)
ParoyFlag.png Paroy No Yes Yes Yes No PYD
Bandera de Sagüira.png Sagüira Yes Yes Yes Yes No (MSM)
Bandera de San Marcos.png San Marcos,
except:
Yes Yes Yes Yes No (MSM)
  Bandera de Nogal.png Nogal Yes Yes Within the constituency of Damenstrom Yes No (MSM and ?)
Template:Sudharka
?
?
?
?
?
TamarindiaFlag150.jpg Tamarindia No No No Yes No (đT)
Tamão
?
?
?
?
?
FLAGTARA.png Tara
?
?
?
?
Yes
Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria
?
?
?
?
No (TIT)
Flag of Valaga.png Valaga
?
?
?
?
Yes
Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo
?
?
?
?
No (VDP)

There are a number of issues with this table, so I have moved it to the TCC discussion page to discuss it. Remember that:

  • We currently don't have a law-making body, such as a parliament or an assembly, so we don't have any TCC laws
  • We have not agreed on whether there should be a TCC citizenship yet
  • Since we don't have a representative body (other than the Council of States, which consists of government officials), we don't have TCC elections at this time
  • We currently do not have an open-border policy

Chazeltine (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2019 (CEST)

How can we talk about and agree on these points?

Hi Sude, I think answering these four questions is a good beginning:
  • Why does the TCC need laws? Should there be a body that makes laws for the TCC?
  • Why should we have TCC citizenship?
  • Why should we have TCC elections?
  • Why should we have an open-border policy?

Chazeltine (talk) 18:31, 3 August 2019 (CEST)

Forming the Tarephia Cooperation Council

Hi all,
Since there seems to be increasing interest in a more unified Tarephia, I thought we could start thinking about the form of organization that the TCC will take. Some things I would like to see on the map are:

  • Multiple member states hosting important buildings of the TCC, such as:
    • A legislative chamber
    • Offices for the executive branch
    • A judicial court
    • The central bank (if we are using a unified/multiple currency(ies))
      • Several mints


What else can we think of? (Suggestions should be mappable.) Chazeltine (talk) 18:37, 14 July 2018 (CEST)

What do you think a "judicial court" shall do? Or a legislative chamber? Or a central bank? Or "executive" banches? For Latina the TCC is no european union as unit over the nations, but only a loose connection for better free trade and voyages without visum between the states. Latina has a currency-union with Zylanda, Lorredion and Niulutan-Riu. So a "central bank" can only be founded on the basic of the Latina Pound. --Histor (talk) 12:48, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
I think like Histor here. My countries join TCC only to facilitate trade and travel. They have some particularities, because they was a former country - this way, they have the same license plates but not the same currency, etc. As there is a history of conflicts to (political) independence, sure Brasonia and Belgravia would not want to be unified to other state again in any way. When talking about a judicial court, do you mean something like real world Haia? If yes, I dont think it would be necessary in Tarephia, but if you think it is, I will not object -- BMSOUZA (talk) 14:17, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
So @BMSOUZA your nations just do not want the TCC to look like the EU or closer to a single state? As well, I suggest developing a major event on the continent that sparks the formation of the TCC; the EU was created as a result of WWII (Through the ECSC) to make war in Europe unthinkable. That then should be the mission of the TCC. Furthermore, if the TCC is to primarily be for trade and travel, then a currency and unified passport (possibly on top of that which the nation provides) are critical to achieving this goal. As for important buildings, my nation would love to host one relating to science (hopefully one for nuclear/energy science). And my final talking point, the current state of the TCC. As of right now, it appears that all except for a few of the TCC member states are very far apart from each other, or separated by a non-TCC nation (The exceptions are Tara-Latina, Ünglend-Tigeria [And possibly Bélice, which is close but not bordering] and Belgravia-Brasonia [Note: These are the ones I know of]). Given these circumstances, it looks to be quite difficult to establish free trade and movement within these borders (with the exception of Air and Aquatic Transport). I think I covered all my thoughts here right now. Thanks for your consideration. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
Hi, Trombonist2003! So, if we want to take it so serious, sadly I think we can not, because Tarephia is still full of "abandoned states". As I dont see TCC as Euro, there is no problem about free trade between our countries only via Air and Aquatic Transport; about not-so-much burocracy to enter the TCC countries as tourist, student or even worker; etc. This is the mission of TCC to me. Buildings to research centers as you mentioned the wish about hosting a scienfitic one in your country, is also a realistic thing inside "my" idea of TCC mission - there is a important center in your country and there are researchers from TCC-countries working there. As I dont have in mind to include war crimes in Gran Luslandia countries history, I can not say anything about a court like RW Haia. And the main point: if considering blocks of countries, you forgot to mention Luslandia close to Brasonia/Belgravia, hehehe, and we also can consider a big block in southern Tarephia (Brasonia/Belgravia/Luslandia/Latina/Tara). Anyway, I see all of them independent (Gran Luslandia countries are together only about historical and cultural links). Still talking about it (considering block of countries), the "center" of TCC should be in southern Tarephia - but I dont have a wish to have big important continental buildings in my countries, I am just saying. About currency, if decided to use a common one to all TCC-countries, my countries can use it, but only to international trades, and still using our current currencies, with parity to this new currency. About using a sticker in license plates, I like very much this idea, but in my countries it will be mandatory only to cars that will cross the national boundaries. Well, as seen, we can think different, but everything can fit well anyway, hehehe -- BMSOUZA (talk) 17:12, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
Okay, so about blocks, it looks like there are 2 "blocks" and 3 nations left over after an inspection of the continent. The 2 blocks appear to be The South-West (Kotel-Tigeria-Ünglend) and South-East (Brasonia-Belgravia-Luslandia-Latina-Tara), plus 3 nations left over (Bélice-Freedemia-Vodeo). And on your point of free trade- I was thinking too european. It is very simple (maybe simpler) to ship things through air or water over road. This holds the same for the scientist thing. Thus the point of the TCC to you is to make free trade and movement of people/goods/services easier to bring prosperity to the nations within. I like that idea; even over my original thinking of a more EU-style pact. And I didn't realise you owned Luslandia too @BMSOUZA (oops, sorry). Now for more Building suggesstions:
  • Tarephian Science Union (and all of its associates and departments)[Hopefully this can be in my country]
  • Tarephian Customs Union
  • Tarephian Standards Organization
  • Organization of Migration for Tarephia
  • TCC Representative to the Assembly of Nations

That's what I have in my head right now. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 17:37, 16 July 2018 (CEST)

I agree that it's less possible to build an EU-like organization for Tarephia because of the political landscape in Tarephia. I looked around the RW, and I think it would better to model the TCC on something like the Association of Caribbean States or the Pacific Economic Cooperation Council. As for the currency issue, there are several models we could consider: I think we can all adopt a unified currency (probably unrealistic for us), we can peg our currencies to each other (effectively unifying them) (more realistic), we can use a linked exchange rate (like Hong Kong uses), we can use our own currencies (this requires effective economic management to prevent economic destabilization of the region), or we can use another RW system we find convenient.
If we want a looser organizational structure, I think a secretariat (to manage daily affairs) and an annual forum (hosted by a different member nation each year) to discuss common issues and develop strategic goals is sufficient.
@Trombonist2003 the Lycene League may be a better organization under which to build your research institute since that organization actively seeks to promote stronger political and economic ties among its member nations. But let's see where we take the TCC.

One thought: if we want to have states with varying degrees of involvement, we could have member states as the core and observer states which are more loosely affiliated (and may discuss but cannot vote on decisions).Chazeltine (talk) 17:49, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
The thing about having a unified currency is so that nations can be able to accept the currency of any tourist that comes from the TCC (since free movemement is very important here) without having to exchange currencies. So unless every nation in the TCC is willing to accept every other nations' currencies, I don't see the use more than making the exchange rates the same of pegging the currencies to each other. It is still possible to have an ECSC-type standard for currency (just not having a shared currency while still being a union). My last thought on this, there alrady is the USD. And since we are assuming the TCC was founded at least eleven years ago (I think) then each member must have one building to host that forum each year? As well the Headquarters in Latina becomes the Secretariat? Sounds good to me. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 18:10, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
While I like the idea of closer relations between Tarephian nations, my preference is for a free trading agreement and automatic diplomatic recognition of other member nations. I'm certainly not in favour of a unified currency, since such a thing would be political suicide in Vodeo (a nation where we don't use decimal currency and popular opinion isn't yet in favour of it as the 2019 referendum approaches). Some sort of link between each other's currencies sounds fine to me, however. As for what prompted the creation of the TCC, I have two suggestions - either we could base it off the Great War of the 1940s (this is how the Ingerish Commonwealth moved from being an association of Ingerish-speaking countries to an economic and military pact), or there could be some sort of catastrophic war somewhere in Tarephia. I'm not so sure about the latter since it would disrupt the established histories of some of our nations, but it's a thought. — ParAvion (talk) 22:58, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
There are many reasons why an international organization may come into being. Sometimes it is war, as ParAvion said, but it can also be a desire for economic propsperity, a common "hostile" ideology/entity (e.g., communism, competing blocs), historical ties, etc. I like to imagine that the TCC began to exist because of an economic recession that badly affected the region. That way, we don't have to come up with a giant conflict. @Trombonist2003 the summits don't have to be hosted in buildings constructed specifically for that purpose. It's much more cost-efficient to host summits in venues that already exist. Summits can be held anywhere from palaces to exhibition centers. If you want to mark this on the map, you can add a "description" tag with "Site of the [year] TCC summit." or something like that on the relative building. Also, not all current members have to be founding members (some may have joined later).
Given the membership of the TCC, I think a unified currency may not be feasible. We could have each member state designate a foreign monetary authority within their borders that sets periodic exchange rates for their currency relative to other currencies in the TCC (something like the (delayed) crawling peg system). These rates could be set across the TCC when representatives from each member's monetary authority convene to determine fiscal policy. I think this setup allows for some flexibility but also for some degree of financial stability.
For free movement of people, how does a visa-free system sound? You still have customs, but citizens of member nations don't need visas to travel to other member nations.Chazeltine (talk) 05:47, 17 July 2018 (CEST)
I am still a bit skeptical of the currency thing, but everything else sounds good. For now though, Bélice can set the new Krauen currency to be at the same exchange rate as the Latina Pound. I believe the whole point of the TCC is to be able to make progress and prosperity easier by opening borders and making trade easier between member states. About summits, I feel it is fine with me but I'd still prefer something more permanent. If you could give me a list of founding, and joined members, I'd add that to the map with colour coding.
If you want to go for a common hostile idea/nation/terrorist group (like what's happening in Europe, mostly France), what is the best option for the founding? It has got to be very strong as we have quite the powerful nations Founding the TCC.--Trombonist2003 (talk) 15:01, 17 July 2018 (CEST)
Freedemia would probably still be pretty much against joining a uniform currency, especially with the Freedemian freedin finally getting to a place of relative stability the last few decades, but I could see an argument for attempts to be made to make easier currency exchange across borders and acceptance of other TCC member currency the norm (maybe debit and credit cards from the other TCC nations work seamlessly between countries?) I'd also be very much in favor of the visa-free aspect and easing trade. I feel like Freedemia would likely have been almost a founding member but held out joining until later over disagreements about what the TCC should look like, especially if the TCC was founded after 1982 and before 2006 since the presidents from 1982 to 2005 were still trying to figure out what Freedemia's foreign policy should look like (previously it was kinda isolationist). As for the license idea, Freedemia would probably only do the sticker. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 21:46, 18 July 2018 (CEST)

Mission

It sounds like the purpose of the TCC is to facilitate free trade and freedom of movement of people, goods, and ideas. How should we implement this? To start, I think a judicial system is necessary to resolve disputes between nations. We also need research centers and think tanks to reflect the high activity of the academia in the region. Bélice will be the center for science (what kind of science? Tigeria and Kotel are passionate about environmental conservation, so there's an opportunity for collaboration there). Chazeltine (talk) 17:01, 17 July 2018 (CEST)

If the TCC is to facilitate trade and movement of people, goods and ideas, then it sounds like taking down borders completely is the goal. Of course this is only really able to be applied and see an impact in members that border another member. Research and Think Tanks are nice, but how about an intermember student exchange so students can easily choose/accept invitation from a university in the TCC without the worries of visa and immigration (this is already partially by the free movement agreement)? Bélice would love to be a host for Science in the region, specifically natural and extraterrestrial sciences.--Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 21:43, 9 August 2018 (CEST)

Diplomatic Missions

It sounds like we all agree that the TCC will send a delegation to the AN and gain the status of an observer state at the AN. Chazeltine (talk) 17:01, 17 July 2018 (CEST)

Currency System

As of now, it seems like some of us prefer a unified currency system, a fixed exchange rate system, or no system at all. I think a politically achievable solution would be this: members that opt to use the unified currency will join the TCC currency union (Tigeria and Kotel already use the tare (from Tarephia)), and members that choose to keep their own currency can decide if and how they want to peg their currency to the unified currency. Chazeltine (talk) 17:01, 17 July 2018 (CEST)

In that case, Bélice will cancel the production of the Krauen and instead use the Tare. The currency that the nation has used since 1975 was the Brocéliande Ecu, so joining the Tare would be a major improvement. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 00:36, 18 July 2018 (CEST)
Freedemia will stick with the Freedin, but will make efforts to seamlessly accept and exchange the Tare as well. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 21:46, 18 July 2018 (CEST)
On that note, who is designing the Tare? --Trombonist2003 (talk) 23:22, 20 July 2018 (CEST)
As well, can we make the Currency name the Tarephia Tare [TAT] (so each nation does not need to make their own variant?) I am willing to make the design and add it to the List of Currencies if we can agree on what denominations and the designs that will be present on the currency. --Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 21:43, 9 August 2018 (CEST)
10 Tare note proposal by Trombonist2003
Here is my design of the Tare, with multiple security features. The mess (Spaghetti code) is also a security symbol. It is meant to be held vertically. The design is currently blank as I cannot choose a design without approval of everyone else. --Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 01:31, 14 August 2018 (CEST)
In Latina sure the Latinan Pound will be the curency, but you can pay in Latina with the Tara --Histor (talk) 01:43, 14 August 2018 (CEST)
For the name, I think "tare" is fine (because what if it hypothetically becomes popular beyond Tarephia?). I think we can make banknotes in denominations of 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 and 500. For coins, I was thinking we could borrow from the Japanese yen and punch some holes in some of the coins for ease of identification. By the way, I'm currently using ※ as the symbol for the tare. Chazeltine (talk) 07:51, 14 August 2018 (CEST)

In the case that the Tare is defined as the de facto official currency of Tarephia, I feel that it is time to make the wiki page and start putting images onto the bills (and coins). My proposal is to have a vote on which national monuments or people to put on the banknotes (front and back). I have started a list with my national monument (more than one can be acceptable, as long as there is an available image or impending image to arrive soon).--Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 04:08, 19 September 2018 (CEST)

  • Tour de Genette, Chavalenne, Beaumontan (Drawing to arrive shortly)
Before we create the wiki page for the Tare, let's make sure there is something on the map to support the wiki page. I think we would need an international central bank to oversee the administration of the currency, mints to produce the coins, and banknote manufacturing facilities to produce the banknotes. Chazeltine (talk) 16:40, 19 September 2018 (CEST)
In that case, we may set up a "financial capital" of the TCC, similar to Beaumontan being the "science capital". I'd be happy with a mint and/banknote production facility. --Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 17:28, 19 September 2018 (CEST)
Not every nation has or needs a mint; quite often, one mint will manufacture coins for many different nations (for instance, New Zealand's coins are made in Canada). I would suggest that perhaps the larger nations (Latina, Vodeo, Freedemia, Paroy, and perhaps Broceliande) would have mints, with smaller countries contracting them to manufacture their coins. As for a "financial capital", I'm not so sure, given that no one city has financial dominance - Saviso, Latina, Trevers, Quentinsburgh, and Valoris could all have a reasonable argument for being said capital, but in my mind there's no real need for it. — ParAvion (talk) 09:51, 8 October 2018 (CEST)
If we are all using the same currency, then nations would not contract others, but the TCC itself would, correct? The more that I think of it, the more complicated it would get, as now the council may need some committee to manage the Tare, adjusting inflation rates, etc. Also you are correct, ParAvion, thet really is no need for a financial capital of Tarephia. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 13:10, 8 October 2018 (CEST)
I believe the responsibility of managing the currency, inflation rates, and so on falls to the Central Bank of Tarephia. As for the financial centers, there are several financial centers that exist in the Union, and I imagine they would all collaborate with one another. --Chazeltine (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2018 (CEST)
Not everyone will be using the Tare, remember. Those of us that aren't will have to set our own rules for dealing with it - how we accept it, what the exchange rate is (once we determine what the rate is with the USD, that will be easy), and so on. I would imagine that the Tare would be like the Euro in that each country that uses it would have its own specially-designed coins to reflect that nation's history. Therefore, it's not unreasonable to believe that perhaps the TCC allows countries that use the Tare to contract out their minting to other nations, but within specific guidelines. — ParAvion (talk) 20:02, 8 October 2018 (CEST)
Ok, so my country Valaga is now also in the Cooperation Council and also uses the currency Tare. The capital of my city will soon get an international financial center, so I could build the Central Bank of Tarephia in my Capital city and Valka (my Capital city) could become the financial capital of the Cooperation. What do you guys say? --Lyriax (talk) 17:19, 28 March 2019 (CET)
Yeah, I don't really have a problem with that. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 12:03, 29 March 2019 (CET)
Hi Lyriax, I like your ideas! If you look at the table in the Things to Map section, you can see what has already been mapped, like the Tarephian Central Bank and its mints and banknote production facilities. Regardless, there are a lot of other organizations which could be added to enhance the financial system of the TCC. What else can you think of? Chazeltine (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2019 (CET)
Hi! I just saw it... I would map a Stock market and a financial center! If somehow you guys would accept it, I'd also map a new/move the central bank, because now it looks like if it was randomly placed in any city that has no large dominance in a financial aspect. --Lyriax (talk) 19:42, 31 March 2019 (CEST)
Hey, if it's not a problem, I would announce a little thing. I present the symbol of the Tare. ₮. It's a Mongolian symbol, and I found it on the Wikipedia. I hope you all agree, and we all can use it to identify our currency. (By the way, Auronia is now a dual-currency country, meaning it uses both the Auronian Auron and the Tare. --User:JoJoBa 12:28, 4 April 2019 (CEST)
So higher in this thread, I mentioned that Tigeria and Kotel were using ※ as the symbol for the tare. The symbol is derived from the character for rice 米, from the days when many Tigerines and Koteliers were paid their day's wages in rice. And since I introduced the idea of Tare to the TCC with this symbol ※ at the time, it seems to have been the symbol we would have been (and should be) using. As for the central bank location, it has been mapped in Hexagonia City, Tigeria (not randomly), because the tare originates from the currency union between Tigeria and Kotel and was accepted by the TCC to be the international currency. Chazeltine (talk) 17:44, 7 April 2019 (CEST)
Oh, sorry for that, didn't notice it. I will use the ※ as of now. Sorry for any misunderstanding. (User:JoJoBa 14:23 CEST 7, April 2019)
I think the current Tare symbol is a bit.. off. It doesn't really look like a currency symbol. So, can we, as JoJoBa said (which I only noticed half-way through writing), use the ₮ as a symbol instead? --Tito zz (talk) 13:15, 10 June 2019 (CEST)
10 Tare - proposed by JoJoBa
Here is my entry for the Tare. Since it is a new currency, I opted for a modernistic design and I think those shades of red fit perfectly. User:JoJoBa 00:41 9 July, 2019 (CEST)
20 Tare - proposed by JoJoBa and Trombonist2003
JoJoBa and I have come together and designed a combined proposal for the currency banknotes. What do you think? --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 19:32, 11 July 2019 (CEST)
Overall, I think it's a nice design. But I think the design could be better organized; it looks like there are too many elements on the currency and not enough white space to balance everything. Also, what do you think of a currency museum to showcase the history of the Tare and other former national currencies? Chazeltine (talk) 04:38, 12 July 2019 (CEST)
I like the idea, maybe such a museum would fit near the Tarephian Central Bank? --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 18:17, 12 July 2019 (CEST)

Organization

It looks like we are trying to find a balance between annual summits and a permanent core. I think using a member states - observer states system strikes this balance. Member states would be closely involved in the operations of the TCC and vote on the decisions that the TCC considers. Observer states will continue to enjoy the benefits of the TCC; they will have a say but no vote on the TCC's decisions. Nor will observer states by bound by the decisions of the member states. That said, I think that the politically fractured East Block will most likely be observer states (the TCC headquarters can remain in Latina for in-world historical reasons), while the more unified West Block will likely become member states and the center of power (and develop organs like what Trombonist2003 proposed through which the TCC can achieve its mission). If we don't want such a strong difference between members and observers, I think we could set up an "East" Council (less involved) and "West" Council (more involved). Freedemia, Vodeo, Paroy, and future member states can decide which council they want to join. Chazeltine (talk) 17:01, 17 July 2018 (CEST)

I wouldn't attribute it directly to East and West, because of the entry of future nations (my thinking being what if a new member gets placed on the "East council" purely based on geographic location). It may also be simple and/or more cost-efficient if all the members can just meet up together at the headquarters in Latina, and all the member states can decide on their level of membership. I know I'm making such a fuss about a name, but it's quite important to prevent future confusion to new members. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 17:25, 18 July 2018 (CEST)
TCC Ministries

Hi Fifafo, what are the TCC Ministries, and why should we choose Bestagen, Eicarl? Chazeltine (talk) 18:18, 20 July 2019 (CEST)

Thank you for asking! I thought, that the TTC Ministries will be like ministries of other countries, but for all of the TTC members. These will also represent the executive branch of the TTC, which seems to be a discussion point here. Here are some Ideas for some ministries:

- Ministry of Finances (Manages funds for research, and other money of the TTC) - Ministry of Trafnsport (That one will decide on common rules for air and aquatic travel, as well as a common train track width or international traffic concepts. It will also manage numberplates (Another Idea from below, which I actually like) - Ministry of Environment ( Will manage international Wild parks and common rules to save the environment of TTC member states. It would make sense to work together on that, because one country alone cannot do so.) Later, we can add more ministries, as the TTC gains responsibility.

Also we need an institution, maybe not a ministry, that advertises the TTC among other states in Tarephia

I put the Ministries in Bestagen, because that's my country, and as it says in the beginning, each country should have one institution. Eicarl didn't have one until now.

I think we might have discussed a "one country, one institution" idea, but it's not something I think we agreed to use. But we also don't want to have all the institutions in one country. So use your judgment. Finances are already managed by the Tarephian Central Bank, but no one has created an authority for transportation or the environment yet; so feel free discuss how we can implement transportation and environmental policies in the TCC. Not everyone may think that we need offices for transportation and the environment, so you will have to start a discussion to see what everyone thinks. If we generally agree, then we can figure out how policies from these offices will affect the map. Chazeltine (talk) 17:57, 22 July 2019 (CEST)

Thank you for guiding me! I will shall write a proposal on these institutions. Still, if they turn out to coincide with ministries, I would put them close to each other, to enhance the cooperation between the ministries.



This is my proposal:

Ministry of Transportation

To unite Tarephia more, and enhance the freedom of visa free travel between member states, there has to be an institution to watch over the traffic in Tarephia. This one will make sure, that train schedules are refined, so that people can easily change trains at stations neat bordering countries. In addition, it will plan and support the interconnectivness  of land, aquatic, as well as air traffic. It will also decide one common, rules for traveling in all three areas. This will not only make traveling easier since passengers won't have to adopt on new standards when moving from one country to the other, but it will also allow reaching other discussed goals of the TTC, such as having similar number plates or having environment saving goals. It will also enhance industrial production in the countries, since by having the same industrial standards, it is easier to produce goods in several places.

Ministry of Finances

The TCC needs a Ministry of Finances (or institution for TCC finances), to keep track of the funds for scientific research and other projects of the TCC. This is not the same like the Tare central bank, because this one manages the tare, and has nothing to do with the ministry.

Ministry of Environment

Since one country can't work alone on world climate, it is important, to unite the countries of Tarephia, to work toward common goals in this area. It will democratically decide on common rules relating to the environment of Tarephia. This institution will also manage international wild paks.

The Ministries each have their own Law book, and they will create TCC wide laws (as long as the member state has agreed to follow TCC laws). Each State that follows the Laws will have a seat in the Parliament, and there will be votes about new Law proposals.

What other ministries (institutions) could there be? More will follow!

Here is a survey on wether we should have the ministries or not. Please be honest and only fill it out once. https://forms.gle/v5rp4N3ivLwtEMNq8

Political System/ International Laws

Hey, I have the idea if the TCC could also get a Parliament that decides on laws, that will be implemented in the Union. It would be like the European Parliament. What do you guys think? --Lyriax (talk) 13:29, 11 April 2019 (CEST)

This is related to the organization section. I think the last time we (the TCC members) discussed this, we decided on a secretariat (at the Latina headquarters) and an annual forum to discuss policies for the TCC. I'm not sure there is enough momentum in Tarephia to have a permanent seat for a policy-making body. Chazeltine (talk) 07:29, 13 April 2019 (CEST)

Significant Cities of the Tarephia Cooperation Council

Table of Significant Cities

List your significant cities here so we can consider them when we come up with new institutions for the Tarephia Cooperation Council.

Significant Cities of the Tarephia Cooperation Council
City Nation What is this city known for?
Aïchène DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Scientific Research
Avington Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo Space research, proximity to the Commonwealth Space Centre
Cordoba Latflag.png Latina Diplomacy, Finance, Media, Culture, Urbanity
Gerrise Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo Research, technology (Notable Transistor Valley companies include Colour, Duckworks, ITC, Main, Marathon, and Quick)
Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Diplomacy, International Relations, Finance
Koescad Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Finance, Development, Communications, Safety, Retail, Mining
Latina (Ciudad) Latflag.png Latina Diplomacy, Finance, Media, Culture, Urbanity
Porto Colon Latflag.png Latina Trade, Finance, Culture, Urbanity, Seashipping
Quentinsburgh FreedemianFlag.jpg Freedemia Diplomacy (Pacifism, Human Rights), Technology and Computing, Urban Development, Culture (Architecture, Music, Art)
Saviso Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo Finance, education, culture, technology; fourth-largest city in Tarephia
Trevers ParoyFlag.png Paroy Finance, culture, technology, urban development and internatinal relations
Valka Flag of Valaga.png Valaga Finance, culture, tourism, science
Villa Fojenica Allendea-Flag.png Allendea Culture, tourism, science, government, design
Valka

Valka is one of the financial hubs in the TCC. The Tarephian Stock Market and the Tarephian Financial Center are institutions located in the financial district of Valka in Valaga.

The Cooperation council aims to boost trade by lowering taxes for a variety of goods and by improving free trade between the nations.

Hi Lyriax, I don't agree with Valka being a financial hub of the TCC since there is no mapped financial institutions in Valka. In addition, since so many financial institutions are in Hexagonia City, it makes more sense that future financial institutions would be located in Hexagonia City. As for the stock market of the TCC, I think this should be a network of stock markets across the organization, instead of a single stock market for the TCC. Chazeltine (talk) 20:50, 13 April 2019 (CEST)

I agree with that! I will map some buildings (detailed!) in the future but please give me time developing my country. This is the third week mapping my country and I am already making good progress! What "capital" should my city then be?! A Cultural capital? A touristic (makes more sense). We will see in the future. --Lyriax (talk) 22:05, 13 April 2019 (CEST)

Decentralising the TCC

I've noticed in recent weeks that a large number of the TCC's institutions have been set up in only a few cities. I'm not keen on this; given the large number of equally capable cities, I feel that they should be spread out so as not to give one city or country too much influence over everyone else. — ParAvion (talk) 22:32, 13 April 2019 (CEST)

I'd like to place something in Freedemia, but it seemed like all of the major topics Freedemia would be good at/able to contribute have been taken by other nations already --Ernestpcosby (talk) 03:54, 14 April 2019 (CEST)
I'd have to agree with ParAvion here; I think the "capital" system has done its job, but reached ts limits. I think we should open everything up to everyone. In terms of the "main" building for each sector, I think one can be negotiated for each.
That being said, science can and will be open for anyone and everyone here.--Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 14:08, 14 April 2019 (CEST)
Okay, I definitely could have handled this better. On one hand, it makes sense to group institutions in major cities because organizations benefit from the reduced costs of having these institutions close together to exchange ideas, goods, and labor. Economic power naturally gravitates towards these cities. But as cities become more interconnected, then the larger region becomes economically more powerful, and the organizations can spread out further into other cities.
On the other hand, as economic power concentrates in certain cities, then other cities don't benefit as much as urbanization causes people to look for jobs in the more economically powerful cities. Spreading public institutions out is one way to keep jobs in smaller cities; technology also encourages people to work remotely.
I personally would like to see some centralization to reflect the history of the TCC, but also some decentralization to reflect the desire to spread the political influence around the TCC. I started a table of significant cities so we can see what might be located in which city. Chazeltine (talk) 00:05, 15 April 2019 (CEST)
Ah, don't worry about it, Chazeltine. The TCC does not take a permanent form once something is decided, and there's always the chance to tweak things if needed. You've contributed so much to the TCC, good job! --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 01:38, 15 April 2019 (CEST)
I added Quentinsburgh Freedemia to the list of significant cities. I hope I didn't list too much for what it's known for, but I figured since unlike the others I wasn't sure what direction this would go I largely just listed the biggest things Quentinsburgh is known for in general, lol. And I second Zekiel, you're doing fine, Chazeltine. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 05:50, 15 April 2019 (CEST)

Southern Islands

Quick question: If nations are to set up stations on the southern islands, would the TCC be the main administrative body, or the individual nations? Or follow up, would the TCC send Southern Island missions in place of its member states? --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 14:11, 14 April 2019 (CEST)

Personally, I like the idea of having the TCC administer the station and the missions. The members could collectively fund the polar research program. But I do have the question of whether our nations are politically unified enough to agree to a collective polar research program. Chazeltine (talk) 00:05, 15 April 2019 (CEST)
Until I got my own territory, I was a mapper of North Commonia, and a "fan" of independently governing Northern Commonia, within Commonia. During that time, I made a big city, one of the biggest in Commonia, and made a research station - McManaman to serve as a research station specifically for North Commonia, and my city. If you want, we could use it as a TCC station. We just need to change the wiki for literally 90% of it's current content. (The flag stays because I like it, lol). Now, I don't forbid you to edit there, just follow the current shape, and changing and "detailing" the look of it's current buildings might be the only needed thing, mappingly-speaking. User:JoJoBa 00:56 AM, 15 April 2019 (CEST)
In the case that the TCC nations are not close enough to collectively have all Southern Islands bases under the TCC, I think that instead, a few nations could jointly administer one, and have a "super station" to serve as the main TCC hub, for administration purposes. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 01:33, 15 April 2019 (CEST)

TCC: Business Listing

Does anyone think creating a business listing like the one at OGF:VEC Business Listing is useful for the TCC? This would help us map each other's businesses in our own nations and show a more connected economy on the map. Chazeltine (talk) 07:09, 19 May 2019 (CEST)

I like the idea, and I'd suggest dividing the area into the 4 quarters/business sectors for that:
  • Primary (Extraction)
  • Secondary (Manufacturing)
  • Tertiary (Service)
  • Quarternary (Knowledge)
It's just to make said list easier to organize and search. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2019 (CEST)

Membership

Hi Sude, I notice that you are adding to the membership list several small territories (e.g. Cabo Mufti, Xerez) which belong to San Marcos. I don't think these territories can be TCC members separate from San Marcos. Since San Marcos represents all of these territories, I think they should be removed from the list of members. Chazeltine (talk) 06:05, 18 July 2019 (CEST)

Should we create a separate category of membership for the territories of San Marcos? I think these are regions of San Marcos, not self-governing states
  • borde Cabo Mufti
  • Bandera de Sagüira.png Sagüira
  • borde Xerez

Chazeltine (talk) 16:39, 2 August 2019 (CEST)

Membership question about Freedemia

I guess my basic question is what is left that Freedemia could do/be responsible for in the TCC? It seems like almost all of the necessary aspects are sort of already fulfilled by other members. At first I was wondering if Freedemia should remain a member at all considering the geographical separation between Freedemia and every other member country and lack of clear areas to contribute that aren't already taken/fulfilled, but it does seem like it would benefit from the visa-free travel and common currency enough to not want to leave. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 19:42, 18 July 2019 (CEST)

I would suggest promoting businesses in other TCC countries and mapping other TCC countries' businesses in Freedemia. This would strengthen the economic integration of the region (and I think it should actually be included as one of the missions of the TCC). It also gives the TCC a greater presence on the map since we can see the effects of its policies.
The other thing I can see is that Quentinsburgh has the potential to be a major trading city for western Tarephia. We don't have any trade offices in the TCC yet, so Quentinsburgh could be a place where good trade policy develops and is adopted by the TCC. Chazeltine (talk) 16:34, 19 July 2019 (CEST)
That makes sense. I do already have some locations of a couple businesses (Cyclo and Colour most prominently) but I can try to map more when I get the chance. The trade offices aspect does make sense, I could see that working. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 22:31, 22 July 2019 (CEST)

Founding Members

I notice that some nations are joining the TCC and calling themselves founding members when they did not contribute to the original discussions creating the current TCC. So, for the record, when the TCC took its current form (as of July 20), the members were:

How do we feel about these twelve being the founding members? Also should July 20, 19XX be the anniversery of the founding of the TCC (it's the middle of winter, but I don't think that was an issue in the 20th century)? Chazeltine (talk) 16:33, 25 July 2019 (CEST)

Depending on when the XX is, I'm honestly fine with Freedemia having joined after the original founding. It was a little bit isolationist as a nation until ~1982 when a new administration opened up more to international collaboration and such. But if the XX is mid-80s or later, I'd be happy to have Freedemia be a founding member. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 21:13, 25 July 2019 (CEST)
In that case, I think any year after 1982 works. In terms of our histories, a few things I thought were significant were the beginning of Tigeria's green movement in the late 1980s and Vodeo's economic recession in the 1990s. These might not be the reason the TCC was formed, but they could still be contributing factors. Also, according to Latina, Tara was not independent until 2001, so if we want to still include Tara as a founding member, the founding date may have to be in the 2000s. Chazeltine (talk) 08:16, 26 July 2019 (CEST)
I see that 1984 has been chosen as the founding date. Ideally, I'd prefer a much earlier date, perhaps in the '50s, given that in the aftermath of the Great War, perhaps Tarephia wanted to come together to prevent another war happening again; 1984 also seems a bit late for a pan-Tarephian organisation to emerge. 1984 can work for Vodeo though, given that in the '80s the country was undergoing a radical programme of deregulation and opening up to international markets. The recession Chazeltine mentioned didn't happen until about 1990 or 1991, and was only relatively minor, just a correction of the wild growth of the prior decade or so. — ParAvion (talk) 22:46, 2 August 2019 (CEST)
I'm fine with Beaumontan being a founding member, and really any time of founding (except before 1695, hehe). I think, though, I would agree with ParAvion, that the founding should be relatively close to the end of the Great War. Either that, or some other major crisis that could have come up later, should we want to keep the founding year as 1984. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 05:47, 3 August 2019 (CEST)

Tara can not be a founding member, as Chazeltine wrote with right. Before 2001 Tara was part of Latina - only in this sense Tara can be a "founding member". I think, Tara can be deleted from this list --Histor (talk) 10:17, 3 August 2019 (CEST)

Okay, great points. If we want to keep 198X as the founding year, then it's possible that the TCC is the successor to an earlier coalition of states. As a real-world example, the European Coal and Steel Community was founded in 1952, and eventually was merged into the EU in 1992. But I am also okay with moving the year backwards if it works with our histories. Chazeltine (talk) 16:18, 5 August 2019 (CEST)
Personally I like the idea of there being a predecessor that would have existed earlier with perhaps looser connections, and the TCC being partially driven by the desire for a stronger coalition. Tarephia isn't Europe, so I do feel like a couple of the things we have now like an optional common currency and free visa travel might have come later while other connections such as business collaboration might have existed earlier --Ernestpcosby (talk) 19:40, 5 August 2019 (CEST)
Trans Tarephia Road System?

Hello. What would you think of a Trans Tarephia Road System? Roads would be tagged "TA 1" for example. If two roads take up the same route, it could be tagged "A123;TA 1", for example. It wouldn't have to be limited to the TCC, like E-roads in Europe. --Tito zz (talk) 18:20, 9 October 2019 (CEST)

Example for my planned Route "Southwest Tarephia Highway"


But I suppose the idea of ​​this is to create a highway network that one of the main cities of the TCC? the road system should be from Anaras (Istratramma) to Damenstorm --Deshrulex (talk) 19:08, 10 October 2019 (CEST)

There could be more than one highway, like the E-road system again. The route showed earlier was supposed to be an example. It wouldn't have to be limited to TCC nations. --Tito zz (talk) 14:19, 11 October 2019 (CEST)

Mappable Things (and Things to Map)

Below is a table of existing/future OGF locations for the Tarephia Cooperation Council. Chazeltine (talk) 08:00, 20 July 2018 (CEST)

Could I build it (LIGO Facility)? Bélice has many protected rainforests and deep mountains in which one can be built. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 23:24, 20 July 2018 (CEST)
I don't think anyone is stopping you. Go for it. Chazeltine (talk) 16:52, 22 July 2018 (CEST)
Got it- Thanks --Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) (talk) 22:10, 25 July 2018 (CEST)
If you all agree, I will construct the Department of Development for the TCC. It will be built sometimes after this post. Below is the info.
I think our headquarters need a new design. That's all I am gonna say about it. (User:JoJoBa) 01:33, 26 July 2019 (CEST)
I have asked Histor if they would be willing to map the headquarters better. Maybe something like the VEC Headquarters. Chazeltine (talk) 19:50, 13 July 2019 (CEST)

Administration

Administration of the Tarephia Cooperation Council (and Affiliated Facilities)
Name City Nation Type (e.g. Building, Monument) Coordinates
Tarephia Cooperation Council Headquarters Cordoba Latflag.png Latina Building [1]
Supreme Court of the Tarephia Cooperation Council Artisanople Flag of Kotel.png Kotel Building [2]
Department of Development Koescad Flag of Auronia.png Auronia The department which manages the (mostly economic) growth of a nation. It focuses on infrastructure, energy, education, healthcare, safety and science. [3]
Scientific Council of Tarephia (FR: Le Conseil Scientifique Taréphienne) Sévaille DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan The council that evaluates certain scientific issues and presents them to the Council Leadership. The Scientific Council would advise the TCC Leaders to do specific things in relation to environment, space, and other scientific issues. The council does not have authority to lobby the TCC or its Constituent Nations' leaderships, although they are allowed to host public campaigns. [4]
Monument to the Treaty of Lyonesse-Francès Lyonesse-Francès Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Monument commemorating the founding of the Tarephia Cooperation Council [5]

Banking and Finance

Banking and Financial Facilities of the Tarephia Cooperation Council (and Affiliated Facilities)
Name City Nation Type (e.g. Building, Monument) Coordinates
Tarephian Central Bank Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [6]
Tarephian Development Bank Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [7]
Tarephian Development Fund Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [8]
Tigeria Trust Fund Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [9]
Tarephian Cooperation Council Accountability Office Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [10]
Tarephia Banking Authority Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [11]
Tarephia Mercantile Securities Authority Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [12]
Tarephia Insurance and Financial Providence Authority Hexagonia City Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Building [13]
Royal Vodean Mint Holme Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo Building Not rendered at time of publication
Papeterie de la Banque de Tigrisie Lyonesse-Francès Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Banknote Production Facility [14]
Financial Center Valka Flag of Valaga.png Valaga Building TBA
Tarephia Stock Market Valka Flag of Valaga.png Valaga Building TBA

Science and Research

Science and Research Facilities of the Tarephia Cooperation Council (and Affiliated Facilities)
Name City Nation Type (e.g. Building, Monument) Coordinates
Tarephia Continential Laser Inferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory & Research Facility (TCLIGO) Aïchène DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan (LIGO (Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory) is used to detect gravitational waves for purposes of astronomical research. There are two LIGO facilities in OGF. One is in Gobrassanya near Gobras City [15]. The other is in the Ardisphere near Ciudad de Independencia [16]). Location under construction. TBA
The Chendall (FR: Le Chendail) Aïchène DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Very large scientific facility. TBA

Communication

Ccommunication Facilities of the Tarephian Cooperation Council
Name City Nation Type Coordinates
TareVision Broadcasting Corporation Koescad Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Intercontinental Television and Radio Broadcaster. Broadcaster of different TV shows, films, series, cartoons, sports from all the TCC members, and broadcast in all countries of Tarephia. Founder of the TareVision Song Contenst Work in progress.png

Other Significant Facilities

Internal Diplomatic Missions

So, we do have a few institutions mapped and such things, but we lack the most important thing - internal diplomacy. I believe, as a union, we should establish diplomatic missions with one another, and firstly (which is what most nations do) make embassies. I have a diplomatic quarter in my capital, and its filled with only 5 embassies, and I believe filling not only mine, but also yours, would be great for connecting our nations. Only 2 of the TCC members have embassies in Auronia (Beaumontan and Valaga) but none are located there (will move them someday).

Secondly, we need more connections between our nations not only with embassies, but with any other possible mappable things. For example, ferry routes if possible. Or for example, I have a few empty spots waiting for anyone to make some nice buildings there. I believe that we lack the inter connection between our countries, and I call all of the TCC representatives to come to Koescad, where we will discuss more about this topic. (I will include a table-tennis tournament between the nations who come :P ) (User:JoJoBa) 22:34, 3 May 2019 (CEST)

I'm fine with embassies abroad, but at the moment my capital is not very.... existant. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2019 (CEST)

International Businesses

Primary Sector - Production (e.g. mining, lumber, agricultural production etc.)
Company name Type Country of origin Headquarters in Products International locations
AOG (Auronian Oil & Gas) Public Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Oil, gas [[File:emb-green.png|left|link=] You are free to place gas stations of AOG.
MAQ Public Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Diamonds, Gold, Silver, Lead, Iron, Tungsten, sand. [[File:emb-green.png|left|link=] You are free to place smaller subsidiary headquarters, as well as open mines owned by MAQ.
Secondary Sector - Manufacturing (processing, construction, engineering etc.)
Company name Type Country of origin Headquarters in Products International locations
Acier Aréphénique Public Corporation DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Sévaille Processed Steel
Emb-green.png
Yes, you may place offices, but you must also have factories nearby (as it is a steelworks company). No permission needed, just message me whenever one is built so I can track them.
Condravion Public Corporation DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Aïchène Jet Airplanes (regional and long-haul), other large transport vehicles.
Emb-green.png
Yes, you may place offices, but you must also have factories nearby (as it is a manufacturing company). No permission needed, just message me whenever one is built so I can track them.
DAV Public Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Cars, vans
Emb-green.png
You are free to place dealerships in your countries, as well as factories.
HAV Public Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Trucks, vans, trailers, industrial vehicles
Emb-green.png
You are free to place dealerships in your countries, as well as factories.
Hugel-Volte Public Corporation DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Aïchène Electricity (Nuclear)
Emb-green.png
Yes, you may place offices, but you must also have a plant nearby (as it is an energy company). Most of the plants they operate should be operated in partnership with the national/local energy company. Does not have to be nuclear, but that would be appreciated. No permission needed, just message me whenever one is built (and tell me what type) so I can track them.
Mandanque Public Corporation DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Sévaille Weapons Manufacturer
Emb-green.png
Yes, you may place offices, but you must also have a plant nearby (as it is a manufacturing company). No permission needed, just message me whenever one is built (and tell me what type) so I can track them.
ParOil Public Corporation ParoyFlag.png Paroy Bluemond Oil, gas
Emb-green.png
You are free to place gas stations of ParOil, but contact for mining and refinery plants.
Vovaruu Private Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Bulbs, glass, solder, wires, ropes, plaster, cranes
Emb-green.png
You are free to place shops and factories of Vovaruu.
Tertiary Sector - Services (entertainment, hospitality, media, banking, telecommunications, information technology)
Company name Type Country of origin Headquarters in Products International locations
Aviva Publlic International Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Hotel buildings, apartments, furniture, cruise lines, real estate, banking
Emb-green.png
You are free to place offices, and shops of Aviva.
Azzuro Public International Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Mobile phones, computer hardware
Emb-green.png
You are free to add shops and offices of Azzuro.
Colour Public corporation Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo Saviso Computer hardware and software, consumer electronics, cloud services, retail (Colour Store)
Emb-green.png
You are free to place offices or stores anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.
Cyclo Public corporation ParoyFlag.png Paroy St. Matthews, (Trevers) Cyclo-branded consumer electronics, hardware and software, online services, retail
Emb-green.png
You are free to place offices or stores anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.
Empire Coffee Public corporation Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo Saviso Retail food and drinks
Emb-green.png
You are free to place branches anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.
Entour Hotels Publicly-traded company Flag of Valaga.png Valaga Valka, Flag of Valaga.png Valaga Hotel chain
Emb-green.png
You are free to place hotels anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article. Please read the talk page.
Iron Dragon Private Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Hexagonia City, Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Bubble tea, tea, flavored tea
Emb-green.png
You are free to place tea houses anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.
Jonquil Public International Corporation Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Hexagonia City, Flag of Tigeria.png Tigeria Social media, social networking service
Emb-green.png
You are free to place offices anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.
Little Public International Corporation Flag of Auronia.png Auronia Koescad Retail Supermarket chain
Emb-green.png
You are free to place supermarkets of Little.
Main Corporation Public corporation Vodeo Flag.png Vodeo Gerrise Computer hardware and software, consumer electronics, cloud services
Emb-green.png
You are free to place offices anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.
MangeMarche Public corporation DrapeauBMT.svg Beaumontan Sévaille High-Quality Franquese fast food (think of McDonald's locations in France).
Emb-green.png
Yes, you may place offices, but you must also have a significant number of locations in your country. permission needed, just message me whenever one is built (and tell me where) so I can track them.
Megamer Games Public corporation FreedemianFlag.jpg Freedemia Quentinsburgh Video game hardware and software, retail (MegamerGames Stores in major cities)
Emb-green.png
You are free to place offices and store locations anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.
Stepstone Technology Public corporation FreedemianFlag.jpg Freedemia Quentinsburgh Computer hardware and software, consumer electronics, retail (Stepstone Shop)
Emb-green.png
You are free to place offices and store locations anywhere in the world. No permissions or notifications are required, but please add information to the wiki article or talk page.

Branding

TCCproposed.jpg My proposal for the logo of the TCC, if no one else has a different idea.--Ernestpcosby
Logo of the Tarephia Cooperation Council.
I put a new logo on the page. The logo is the form of a stylized TCC, forming the image of a world. The white horizontal line represents the equator that passes through Tarephia, and the intersection of the stem of the T and the white line represents Tarephia's location at the center of the world (in fact 0°0' 0°0' lies somewhere in TA003 north of Freedemia). --Chazeltine (talk) 09:01, 24 April 2018 (CEST)
@Chazeltine actually, someone should build a monument right [17] to show that we are the centre of the world. It would really be interesting to see how the owner of TA003 will use their "Centre of the world" as a way to boost tourism/power. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 14:46, 13 July 2018 (CEST)
I agree. But we'll have to wait and see what will happen to TA003 when it's claimed. Chazeltine (talk) 18:37, 14 July 2018 (CEST)


Proposed Logo I propose this logo, more for simplicity rather than symbolism.--Trombonist2003 (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2018 (CEST

TCC license plates.

My idea is, that every country in the TCC needs to have a 400mm x 130mm license plate with a white background and a blue stripe on the left, including the text TCC and the code of the nation. Additionally, there may be a blue stripe on the right to indicate the location from where the license plate is from. Other license plates, such as Police, Ambulance, Military, diplomats, etc. have all the freedom of the license plate, except that it needs to include either the country's name, flag or seal. What do you think?

File:Unglicense.png

This plate looks very german-like. Whatever - Latina will stay at the latinian licence-plate, because there is a lot of work for the wiki-page about this plates --Histor (talk) 15:03, 10 July 2018 (CEST)
I agree, this license plate is so Euro-style, hehehe. And I sometimes use one like this to take photos of my car in real life. Anyway, Brasonia-Belgravia-Luslandia still will continue using their current license plates, as also there is a way to use them (these three countries are a parts of a former country, still today a historic region) -- BMSOUZA (talk) 16:42, 10 July 2018 (CEST)
I really like the idea of a unified license plate, but seeing as some other countries will not be able to adopt it as easily, what about making it an attachment or sticker on the current plate. If we must change our plates, Bélice will have probably the least problem with that considering our small country and population. And what about passports? -- Trombonist2003 (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2018 (CEST)
Well. I like Trombonist's idea. Also, Latina's license plate doesn't look like having the right font. Just sayin' --Tito zz (talk) 17:50, 11 July 2018 (CEST)
Okay, so here is my proposal. On the bottom right corner of the plate (you can put it on any area of the plate) there is a small sticker noting that this owner is a citizen of a TCC member (Non-citizen residents with cars do not get it on their plate) state. It is not mandatory, but I think it is a good idea to implement. -- Trombonist2003 (talk) 18:34, 11 July 2018 (CEST)

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@Tito zz: What "right" font? Every country can take a font for the car-plate, as the state wish. --Histor (talk) 01:34, 12 July 2018 (CEST)
@Histor You are right, but it just don't seems the right type of font. --Tito zz (talk) 14:34, 13 July 2018 (CEST)
@Tito zz you mean it doesn't look right to you. There is no right font, each with their own advantages and disadvantages. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 14:39, 13 July 2018 (CEST)
I'm not keen on the idea of uniform numberplates, since at least in Vodeo's case, each province issues its own style and layout of plate. As for implementing a TCC logo on plates, is there much point? I wouldn't imagine that many vehicles would be driving all the way from Belice, Latina, or Vodeo into different continents. Maybe countries with road or ferry links would like to add them, but for those of us far from any other continent, stating that we're from Tarephia would be stating the obvious. — ParAvion (talk) 22:58, 16 July 2018 (CEST)
@ParAvion I now see your point. I was thinking too EU-style when I started thinking of the sticker idea. However unlike the EU (besides Finland), the TCC is not completely connected by road to every other TCC nation without going through another country. I guess it's more of just an identifier now. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 01:09, 17 July 2018 (CEST)
Hi, friends! I said the same thing in another topic here in this same talk article, hehehe. Brasonia, Belgravia and Luslandia would prefer keep thier current licence plates, and using of that TCC sticker is mandatory only to cars going outside "my" countries. -- BMSOUZA (talk) 14:28, 17 July 2018 (CEST)
I believe Bélice will give a sticker to every leaving vehicle, right at the border. All ferries with cars will also be checked for the Sticker, and maybe it could be added onto passports? --Trombonist2003 (talk) 15:10, 17 July 2018 (CEST)
That sounds like a good idea. I could see Freedemia doing something similar, though being so much smaller there would probably be more need for it with people leaving/entering Freedemia --Ernestpcosby (talk) 17:34, 19 September 2018 (CEST)

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The Freedemian version of the License plate w/ logo. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 18:57, 19 September 2018 (CEST)

TareVision

Proposed logo of TareVision

So, I don't really know if this is already in this discussion, but I guess I have a little bigger plans than what is here (if it is here).

So I want to make a broadcasting group, headquartered in Koescad, Auronia, which will function as a continental television group for the TCC members. What would it broadcast, I really don't know. Maybe films, series, sports, news, shows, etc. all filmed in countries of the TCC. It would automatically be included in your nation's main channels.

TareVision Song Contest

Since EuroVision ended yesterday, I got inspired to make one on OGF, and since this is one of the more active groups on OGF, why not make one for ourselves?? It would be owned by TareVision, and it would be called the same, plus Song Contest. Of course this can change if you all want. The logo on the right is just a pure sketch on what it would look like. Now, I don't know whether would it be closed for only TCC members, or all Tarephia. I am very keen on discussing about this!

Actions by the council?

Hello! I've noticed there haven't really been a lot of interaction with the TCC. I really do like the idea of the TCC a, but it seems like we could be doing more for our countries to work together. Even now, Freedemia has had closer relations with countries in almost every other continent except Tarephia. I would love to see more actions toward free trade, foreign relations, etc. It would also be nice to see other Tarephian nations involved. Just some ideas and thoughts. --Ernestpcosby (talk) 20:45, 23 August 2015 (CEST) (talk) 20:57, 23 August 2015 (CEST)

I've cleaned up this page a little and added a link to this page from Tarephia so that those interested in learning more about the continent can more easily find its organizations. Hopefully this helps stimulate discussion. Even I'm not sure how the TCC can help our individual countries and the lack of direction is one of the reasons Tigeria is reluctant to join. --Chazeltine (talk) 07:02, 24 April 2018 (CEST)

Could the TCC send a combined mission to aid Commonia? I recently read an article about safe cities there and I wondered if the TCC could send a relief/refugee effort there combined. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2018 (CEST)

Ask Your Questions Here

Hi! Where can my nation apply to join the TCC? I'm really hoping to interact with each other to try and improve for a greater Tarephia together. I know that sounds really cheesy, but how do i join, and how can my country make a difference is my question.--Trombonist2003 (talk) 16:35, 18 June 2018 (CEST)

You can set in your country as a member of the TCC by changing this wiki-page. To communicate with other members you can do here at the talk page or with an inbox-message --Histor (talk) 22:17, 18 June 2018 (CEST)
OKay, thanks! --Trombonist2003(talk) 14:32, 19 June 2018 (CEST)


Map

Okay, so I've discovered something interesting. I have learned to make those interactive maps on the wiki, and am testing it out by making a map of the TCC. Link to it here. --Trombonist2003 (talk) 19:19, 16 July 2018 (CEST)

I like the idea. --Tito zz (talk) 15:00, 25 July 2018 (CEST)

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}} So here is the map as of now. Feel free to add your country to the map. And yes, Vodeo is right on top of Tara. I`ll fix that.--Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 21:03, 3 August 2018 (CEST)

Temporary map mess-up.--Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 21:43, 9 August 2018 (CEST)

Islatrammese Eligibility

Hi guys,

I'm the current owner of the Islatramma (the medium sized state at the opening of the Liberan Sea). I wanted to see whether my nation would be eligible to join?

I've read over the discussion and wiki pages, and am ready to work with Tare as an alternate currency (5 Stine = 1 Tare).

I if you have any questions about my plans for my country or any further details, I'm more than happy to answer.

Jamie

As far as I am concerned, Islatramma lies within the continent, and in fact is nearby another TCC nation, Oyequdeq. Thus you could just add your nation to the list and maybe the map above.--Thanks, Trombonist2003 (talk) 01:52, 20 September 2018 (CEST)
Yes, in my sight you can join. --Tito zz (talk) 15:45, 24 September 2018 (CEST)
Alright, thanks

Specifics of Travel within the TCC and ESA style prgramme

Hi everybody,

I guess the subject really speaks for itself here, but what are the specifics of the visa-free travel? does it permit work and study in other TCC nations or just visitation? and is there a Schengen-style birder agreement, or will we still have passport checks at international points of departure?

another question I wanted to ask is if anyone would be interested in creating a common space agency for Tarephia, as Science and Technology is one of the biggest industries in Islatramma, and, due to its equatorial location, I will be creating a space launch complex in my nation

What do you guys think of this?

For the space agency, I would be all for it, but just note that there are some countries that have joined the TCC solely for free movement of people, goods, an ideas. It's written well by Chazeltine: "I think like Histor here. My countries join TCC only to facilitate trade and travel."

I would love a Schengen-style system, but alas, it would be relatively difficult, considering that the council members are kind-of separated into small blocks as opposed to continental Europe, who uses the Schengen area system for many countries there. As for international points, I think that there would have to be passport checks, since flights or ferries could arrive from any nation, not just another TCC member. Otherwise, most TCC members (if not all) already do away with border checks with neighbouring TCC nations.

Another idea, more focusing on how a Tarephian Science Programme, and by extension, a Tarephian Space Programe may work is outlined in the latter half of this comment by BMSOUZA.

"Hi, Trombonist2003! So, if we want to take it so serious, sadly I think we can not, because Tarephia is still full of "abandoned states". As I dont see TCC as Euro, there is no problem about free trade between our countries only via Air and Aquatic Transport; about not-so-much burocracy to enter the TCC countries as tourist, student or even worker; etc. This is the mission of TCC to me. Buildings to research centers as you mentioned the wish about hosting a scienfitic one in your country, is also a realistic thing inside "my" idea of TCC mission - there is a important center in your country and there are researchers from TCC-countries working there." - BMSOUZA

I would also love some sort of "Tarephian Space Agency" or similar, especially for the smaller states (such as my own Beaumontan) who cannot launch rockets on their own. As for launch sites, Vodeo has one, and is looking to be the main Space player in Tarephia. YOu can talk to ParAvion on that. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 06:51, 30 December 2018 (CET)
The way I see it, passport checks would still be needed, but visa-free travel is a practical thing to have. As stated above, the Schengen Area works for Europe because all the nations that are part of it border one another, whereas in Tarephia, we're far more spread out. With regard to space, I'm not sure having multiple space programmes, particularly in very small nations, running in tandem is very realistic (it's hideously expensive for a start). It would be far better if a Tarephian Space Agency that multiple nations are part of were responsible for that instead, and while the Commonwealth Space Centre is an Ingerish Commonwealth project, I don't see any reason why it can't be used. Tarephia's position on the equator gives us an ideal place to start from, after all. — ParAvion (talk) 07:42, 30 December 2018 (CET)
Ok, well the space launch complex will still be created in Islatramma, as it is an integral part of the history of the nation. We could possibly have a system similar to Canaveral and Vandenburg space complexes in the USA, sharing the load of space missions in the continent, and generally catering to a different launch market. Aerospace is one of the biggest industries in Islatramma, and, as such, Islatrammese rockets would tend to be larger, with a focus on manned flight and reusable orbiters and launch vehicles, whereas, from what I can tell from the wiki and the map, CSC looks to be better suited for the smallsat and low-cost launch markets. -Jamie
I have been thinking about what a space agency might be called and I have an idea: TJ STARS, Tarephian Joint Space Transport And Research Service. What do you guys think of this, and do you have any ideas for specifics? -Jamie
For specifics, I think that some smaller nations that are not too small could have their own space program but also be part of the TJ STARS (or TSESRT in Franquese - Transportation Spatiale Et Service de Recherche de Taréfie, yes the "Joint" part was omitted), similar to the way that the DLR and ESA work, with Germany being de facto part of both. For example, Beaumontan, being the "science centre" could have its own space agency, but also participate in TJ STARS (or have the Beaumontaise Space Agency be a branch of TJ STARS) at the same time, since Beuamontan cannot launch rockets. Thus small countries can launch rockets via their connections to the TCC and larger nations can have their own space program that has their own agenda, and all can cooperate with each other under the TCC. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2019 (CET)
Yeah I think that'd work quite well. For example Vodeo is part of the CSC, but could be part of STARS as well. I like where this is going. Maybe if people want their nation to be part of this they should respond here so we can see what needs to be mapped and where. Right now I have plans to add STARS-1 (the last S standing for site) just north of Annarquia. -J
As others have noted, Islatramma and Vodeo are both ideally located to be rocket launch sites, much like the ESA used Algeria and uses French Guiana for their launch sites. But beyond launch sites, there are so many other aspects of space programs, such as training centers, space testing sites, shuttle landing sites, academic research centers, etc., that would have to be mapped.
As for organization, I think the space agency should be separate from the TCC. While the TCC does fund space research, an entire space program doesn't really fall under its jurisdiction.
TJ STARS is a really long acronym for a space agency. I think a shorter name would be just as good, such as Space Agency of Tarephia (SAT) (they launch SATellites, get it?). Chazeltine (talk) 05:48, 3 January 2019 (CET)
I don't disagree. If SAT works better (which it absolutely does), then I'm all for it. I'll keep STARS for the actually launch site if you don't mind though., because I think it fits quite well. As for what you have mentioned that require mapping, STARS-1 in Islatramma will most likely have vehicle recovery sites, such as booster landing zones and an extra-long runway for spaceplanes. I totally agree with the other things, and would love to have 1 or 2 of them in Islatramma, or even the HQ if noone has any objections
Nice pun @Chazeltine! In terms of other facilities, I think BMT can host a few academic or research-related facilities, in order to make scientific coordination with the other facilities (because BMT is the "capital" of science) much easier. And I do agree with Chazeltine on the part that it is separate from the TCC. I think we can have a separate funding system in which external donors can pay in, and the governments can also pay when they lead a program or want to launch a satellite for example. Of course, Beaumontan doesn't have to be the only one to host such facilities, but I'd suggest putting the most there. --Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 15:35, 3 January 2019 (CET)
Another thing that can be done for funding is that the space agencies kinda just merge into SAT/TJ STARS and the government funds for individual nations' space agencies can be redirected to SAT, along with the TCC funding into it.--Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 15:40, 3 January 2019 (CET)
Couldn't agree more. I'll be back tomorrow after some research on what/how much stuff needs to be mapped -J


Informing territory owners about the TCC

Hello guys! Currently, there are 14 members in the TCC. As you can see on this map: https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/OGF:Territories there are plenty of other territory owners that have countries in Tarephia. Should I/ someone message them and ask them if they would like to join the TCC. I assume that there are many territory owners that simply don't know that there is the Cooperation council. Please let me know if we/ I should message some of the territory owners. --Lyriax (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2019 (CEST)

I wouldn't assume that other mappers of Tarephia don't know about the TCC. The TCC is mentioned on the Tarephia page, so I think it's pretty hard to miss. If other mappers wanted to join, they would join. But I could be wrong.
In any case, I notice the TCC needs to be categorized, so I can add it to the international organizations and Tarephia categories. Chazeltine (talk) 04:34, 3 April 2019 (CEST)
  1. Auronia doesn't border (by land) any TCC member yet, so getting in Auronia by land vehicle will require documents. However, flying and sailing from a TCC country doesn't require any documents.
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