User:Eklas/Bliki/2017/05/15

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In Czech folk culture, there's a proverb about the time between May 12th and 15th: 'Saint Pancratius, Servatius and Bonifatius are the men of ice and Sofia is their cook.' Let me explain that. Those are name days according to the Czech calendar of saints. And they're called the men of ice because these days are usually accompanied by a wave of cold, rainy weather, followed by the sunny, hot summer which lasts until September. From my own experience, I would say that possibly due to climate change, nowadays the cold wave comes three days earlier around May 9th, but hey. Either way the snow has melted, the water levels of the rivers have returned back to normal and we've only been left with a bunch of marshes and oxbow lakes.

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Meandering and me wondering

Cities are fun to map, but they can get pretty overwhelming after a while- and I've been working on Odrava for over a month straight. And so I went on a fun little vacation. Not too far away from the big city: the area can be comfortably reached by a suburban train, which departs every 30 minutes from the Staré Město station, only in about 25 minutes. Fun things to do while you're vacationing in the Township of Rabětín: go hiking, go for a bicycle ride, or just build a tent near the river Borava, have a picnic and catch some sun or some fish.

Meanders. I tried but I really couldn't find any detailed ones in the OGF world (probably should've looked harder), except for Barsas which I remembered was a featured map once, but neither is that a meandering river per se. And so I was left with OSM and my imagination. Here's how I worked:

  • Had more layers: the area, downloaded, and some blank layers.
  • On each of the blank layers, I drew a river that copied the present day Borava in the general direction and location, but had different width and meanders.
  • Merged those layers and moved them to the background.
  • Traced the meanders with oxbow lakes, shrubs and wet meadows.
  • Spiced things up with more small lakes, paths, camps and bushes.

I had much more fun mapping this than Odrava. Maybe that's because I didn't have a very specific vision of what I wanted, so I could draw whatever felt right without feeling pressurized. My favorite parts are probably the country roads: such a small, simple thing, yet it made the area look much more natural and complete. I also want to finish it with landuse eventually.

Does anyone other have experience with drawing meandering rivers too? What do you think? Let me know and stay tuned for next week as I'm going to draw the historic town of Rabětín.

Monday bliki by Eklas
2020

Comments and oh's

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When i map rivers, i tend to get lost in a constant loop of "one meander, than the next, and the next, and the next and so on..." and i end up with something like this. It bothers me especially that i sometimes dont want to draw everything on paper, and then upload it to iCloud, put it on JOSM to trace it. I just need a river. So yeah i can relate to your experience with mapping rivers, as i sometimes do similar things. Other than that i like it! I even have an idea: How about a sort of camping site, but, more like a motel. We have alot of those Poland (they are called Letniska) and they generally resemble a motel where you rent a hut or small cottage, fully furnished with a kitchen, bathroom etc... but in nature. --Litvania (talk) 19:29, 15 May 2017 (CEST)

I can corroborate that when I was making the Changhi originally. I only really have the Ganges and the Bangladesh Delta to go off for the style I want of large large silt-banks and have it meandering. It took me quite a few versions to get where I am and I'm still nowhere close. As for this camp-site type event, it's almost like a Holiday Park in the UK, like we have Butlins or Center Parks. A nature-ish like area with log-cabins with furnishing, and can often have sites inside the camp for events like archery or mini-golf or biking in the woods. More leisure, sport and adventure based. --Aces California (talk) 00:30, 16 May 2017 (CEST)
Those are great ideas, thanks! Definitely going to do something like that. --Eklas (talk) 14:25, 16 May 2017 (CEST)
Is my river really that bad ;)? --Trabantemnaksiezyc (talk) 15:18, 16 May 2017 (CEST)
Well I've seen far worse, but it e.g. goes from tiny meanders to very large ones on a short distance without any changes in width, which I would say isn't exactly realistic. --Eklas (talk) 15:49, 16 May 2017 (CEST)

Really nice river you mapped there, my waterways look shitty in comparison... Martinum4 (talk) 00:44, 16 May 2017 (CEST)

Thank you! And Urbach doesn't look that bad. --Eklas (talk) 14:25, 16 May 2017 (CEST)

I think Borava looks pretty good! And rivers, oy... I've created lots of meanders in my rivers in Østermark but I have to admit I'm extremely unsatisfied with them (the little streams feeding into them are all wrong for instance, not to mention I feel very uncertain about the curves and the width). I need to study OSM more to get what I want. Although I've built my capitol city Mynninghamn[1] plus a major town at the mouth of rivers, so now I'm going to have to reverse engineer them. Sigh. Anyway, like you, I'm focusing a lot on natural and rural areas at the moment, trying to get my woodlands and other stuff to look good, like here[[2]] and here[[3]]. For some reason, it's easier just now to do that! --Demuth (talk) 16:40, 18 May 2017 (CEST)

Thanks! Right, one day I just woke up and I was like, 'I'm in the mood for drawing some natural features today' and so I just got up and drew the river. --Eklas (talk) 15:44, 19 May 2017 (CEST)