User talk:Bhj867

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Copyright status of your uploaded images

Hi Bhj867, please add some source and copyright information to the "Comment" field of the images you have uploaded, like here ore here I'm afraid the admin team will have to delete any images with unclear copyright status rather sooner than later. --Thilo (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2014 (CEST)

public domain images, which I have looked for, aren't of the quality necissary to recreate the detailed beauty of a fantasy world. I would rather have no images in my article than bad ones. No offense. I don't have the Photoshop skills of the user that created Khaiwoon, and the gentleman that took the photo of askendom lives in beautiful scenic southeast Asia. The images will be deleted.Bhj867 (talk) 18:39, 6 September 2014 (CEST)

Relation Pretany-Dagelanden

Hello Bhj867,

I wanted to discuss the relation between our countries.

The Soen

The Soen is an important sea route for Pretany. I am thinking of an old free passage act between the Dagelandic states on it and Pretany. The Soenbrug (Soen Bridge) will be about 75 meter high (some higher than the Golden Gate Bridge), so the highest ships can pass.

I will start working on this immediately Bhj867 (talk) 21:51, 6 August 2014 (CEST)

Brugge-Dajan tunnel

I like the tunnel between our countries. But now it consists of a motorway in one direction, a single-rail railway and a normal road. All of them are unrealisticly close together. I think we should redesign the tunnel. And when was it build? That would influence the road network (former ferry). I suggest in the early 1980s.

The 1980s sounds perfect. Great Idea. If you want, you can start on this. I want to make Brugge an international city with much Dagelandic influence. You are free to edit on my side of the estuary as well.Bhj867 (talk) 21:53, 6 August 2014 (CEST)
What do you think to be a good name for this tunnel? And how is the arm of the Great Rift Sound between our countries called? Which river flows into that arm? KVh (talk) 17:03, 11 August 2014 (CEST)
That is the Sunada RIver, I haven't gotten around to working on the rivers yet. Maybe the Sunada Delta, or the Brugge Arm. What is the name of the city that is going across from Brugge?Bhj867 (talk)
The city on my side of the arm is called Dajan. KVh (talk) 00:25, 12 August 2014 (CEST)
Let's call it the Sunada Delta, and the Dajan-Brugge International Tunnel.
It is not really a delta. So I would call the arm Sunada Estuary or Sunada Sound. Dajan-Brugge International Tunnel sounds more like a workname. I would suggest Friendship Tunnel or Sunada Tunnel. KVh (talk) 11:37, 12 August 2014 (CEST)
I like "Unity Tunnel". :) And Sunada Estuary sounds good because we already have "The Great Rift Sound", We don't want too many "Sound" words. It might confuse people. So, Unity Tunnel, and Sunada Estuary. Do you like?Bhj867 (talk) 12:26, 12 August 2014 (CEST)
Sunada Estuary is okay with me. Unity sounds a bit strange, because there is no unity between our countries. KVh (talk) 13:22, 12 August 2014 (CEST)
Amity Tunnel. <<---- I like this, it just means goodwill and friendship internationally.Bhj867 (talk) 20:15, 12 August 2014 (CEST)
Okay, thats fine with me. In Dagelandic this will be Amiteitstunnel. KVh (talk) 20:29, 12 August 2014 (CEST)
Awesome. Bhj867 (talk) 21:05, 12 August 2014 (CEST)

I would like an international express train service between Dagelanden and Port Emporia. This will be the Guldensoen Express of the Dagelandse Expresstrein Maatschappij. Are you okay with it? In with stations can it stop in Pretany (maximum 3 incl. Port Emporia) and can you make sure that there is a railway route between the Amity Tunnel and this station? It doesn't have to be a high speed railway, because high speed train can travel over normal tracks. KVh (talk) 00:06, 14 August 2014 (CEST)

Absolutely, I will start working on the rail lines and stations between Port Emporia, Brugge, and I'll think of another one.Bhj867 (talk)

Other connections

I would propose a highway (not motorway) bridge near Northeast Wall. So cars don't have to pass two borders there. And I would propose a ferry route from Kleinlugtebeld to Central Tachië. I haven't started designing Tachië yet, but that shouldn't be a big problem.

I will need to judge the distance across the waterway, but it shouldn't be a problem, we can create an island there if need be.Bhj867 (talk) 21:54, 6 August 2014 (CEST)
It is about 5 km. So it is a medium long bridge. KVh (talk) 23:24, 6 August 2014 (CEST)
Ok This is done too. I made an interesting triple juntion bridge at the border there between Pretany, Galicia, and Dagelanden, and there is a ferry route at Kleinlugtebeld. Bhj867 (talk) 00:43, 7 August 2014 (CEST)


Can we put the sea border north of Blackumbria in the middle of the water? Now my country starts directly when you go into the sea from your country.

I see no reason why not :) Go ahead. I actually propose we change the shape of the entire estuary. It is extremely straight. Not very natural. Bhj867 (talk) 21:56, 6 August 2014 (CEST)
Okay, but I suggest we keep it a bit straight. In low areas it is natural that estuaries are straight, like here KVh (talk) 23:24, 6 August 2014 (CEST)
I see what you mean. Maybe we can add some islands or more esturarys linking back to the ocean for a more natural look. Also I took a look at the border it seems it already is in the middle of the water. here Bhj867 (talk) 00:10, 7 August 2014 (CEST)
I just changed the border :) KVh (talk) 00:30, 7 August 2014 (CEST)

I wonder how you think about this. KVh (talk) 21:30, 6 August 2014 (CEST)

Ferry Drijbereiland - Kolijn

Hello Bhj867, I removed the ferry between Drijbereiland and Kolijn, because Kolijn has only fishing harbours. No ferry harbours and definitely no international harbours.

Besides that, I made my side of the Sunada Estuary more natural. How do you like it? KVh (talk) 01:52, 13 August 2014 (CEST)

It's ok about the ferry. I actually really like what you have done with the coast, It reminds me of the Netherlands alot. :). We have a bit of a land flooding problem right now as there is something wrong with the coast. I will see if I can fix it. Bhj867 (talk)

Image resources

Hey, welcome back. I just wanted to make sure you saw the image resources section on the help page.

You are not restricted to public domain images.

Any image with a Creative Commons license is usable, and there are literally tens of millions of them out there, at Wikimedia Commons, at Flickr, and elsewhere. Lots of great ones too. Enjoy!  :-)

--Isleño (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2014 (CEST)

Sibling cities

Hi Bhj867! I have been thinking about Sibling Cities relationships between Pretany and Flag-Ataraxia-v1.png Ataraxia. Since each city can have several siblings, may I propose the following:

  • St. Richards - Ataraxia City. Reason: Capital and world city, with major international institutions
  • Port Emporia - Oyonnax. Reason: Major port city
  • Westward Gate - Léopoldville. Reason: Inland city close to border with trade links to greater Uletha

--Dono87 (talk) 07:41, 18 February 2015 (CET)

Absolutely, that sounds like a great idea! Let's link up. More detail will be coming to each of those cities as time goes on.Bhj867 (talk) 10:49, 18 February 2015 (CET)

Embassy in St Richards

Hi Bhj867

I've just added an embassy for Telkhug Ēkdŭn in St Richards, down towards the docks just a bit over 1km from the Assembly of Nations complex [1]. I'm contacting you because, although you said you were happy for embassies to be builtin St Richards, this isn't a standard embassy. Firstly, it is an embassy to the AN, not to Pretany. Secondly it is 5ha in area. If you've got any issues at all with it let me know and I'll sort it out. All the best --Udilugbuldigu (talk) 02:43, 17 November 2015 (CET)

I love it. I have no problem with your embassy. Thank you for contributing. I actually wanted to communicate with you about a special relationship between our countries. The Inarans are descended from a similar Caeltig group of people. I wanted us to create some kind of story, linking the Inaran's history to your countries. The Inarans once had a empire in Pretany and I haven't gotten around to creating a more detailed story about that empire. I also wanted to try and link The creation of the Assembly of Nations to some kind of World War. But that can be hashed out later. Either way your country having a large embassy in St. Richards may be beneficial to a larger backstory about the creation of the AN and the relationship between Inara, Pretany, Telkhug Ēkdŭn and Wesmandy/Ionadalba.Bhj867 (talk)
Thanks. Think I may change the 'underground' part of the embassy, but apart from that I think its ok. Shall we put the Pretany history stuff on the Pretany talk page? There are lots of possibilities for Inara, but if we could work out the origin of the Godailic (Gaelig) languages, that would be a start? I was thinking of an origin in Kalm, even west Kalm, and a spread east (sort of like the rw spread of the Celts, but reversed) (Joschi81 I think would be ok with this). And if you have Irish Gaelic in Pretany, would it also make sense for Pretany to have been the origin of the 'Irish' ]Aerie' - possibly some of the ones who ended up in Latina and Tara? --Udilugbuldigu (talk) 12:34, 23 November 2015 (CET)

Historic World War

A historic world war story would truly make OGF more believable. We could think about how to do this. Having the AN in St RIchards must have some reason? Perhaps the peace treaty was signed there. Or was Pretany the victor in a war, or was it defeated and set up the AN as 'atonement'. )and could we 'combine' both the rw world wars into a single OGF Great War, since the causes of the rw vorld wars are closely linked)? Either way, for a world war there need to have been both ideological and territorial conflicts. I have tried to write these into the history of Ionadàlba (and Grum). The objective was to contribute to creating an ideological 'villain' - so Ionadàlba is a fascist state from 1942 onwards. But it is not a superpower by any means, as the population can't be any more than about 4 million, and that's pushing it (though it could be allied with some other states to make a 'power block'?. What would be great to create is a superpower villain that other OGF users would then be happy to 'defeat' in their histories, allowing them to maintain the democratic systems that most of them have. But I think it is a difficult thing for anyone to commit to because most users seem to be very attached to the idea that their countries are good places to live and with the same sort of liberal/democratic history stretching back into the past. So, could the creation of such a history be a new collaborative project (perhaps a historical collaboration, rather than a mapping one)? Could we create a 'superpower villain', that was defeated? Or a wider scale 'world civil war, so that there are factions within a number of countries, taking control, but ultimately defeated? PFS looks like a communist analogue - but it isn't a superpower, more a 'rogue state'. Telkug Ekdun is also long way from being a world power, but could be an antagonist for some minor conflicts, perhaps more recent. I can't see it having been properly involved in a world war though, it is probably too small, and ideological in a different way than analogues of sides in a war would be. --Udilugbuldigu (talk) 12:34, 23 November 2015 (CET)

I can't believe I missed this. I agree. We need to sharpen up our World War history, and the keys are definetely in why the AN was founded in the first place. Bhj867 (talk)

I suppose it was a while ago, but not that much has changed, except perhaps that there was a discussion as to why Commonia was so dysfunctional and chaotic, which in turn led to ideas about there having been various wars there over the years ... the dates for a major war in Commonia 1947-53 have been on the Commonia page for a good while now. There is also the [global collaboration] page which developed following these diary discussions. You could add Pretany and PFS to this. And some time we need to go back and look at that in detail and get as much agreement as possible as to why and when the AN was formed. Did it follow the Commonian war - or was it something else, perhaps something global? --Udilugbuldigu (talk) 02:40, 7 June 2016 (CEST)

Inland sea

About that inland sea proposal, I accept. Though, Is it too late to accept the offer? --Wal (talk) 19:15, 5 June 2016 (CEST)

oh hey! I would like for you to work out the geography of your country first. Elevation. An inland sea that close to the Egyt mountains may not be the best idea, but we can see how it may or may not play out. My topographical map is available on the pretany page if you need a reference. I would also like to get some feedback from other users on the aesthetics of an inland sea on the location of our shared border on Uletha itself. [2], but <------ This is definetely the area I had in mind. Roughly a sea in the area of the Perm River. I am not a fan of our river border in this area. It is not realistic to me to have a river with that many meanders in it for that long. A large inland sea there would be more ideal, but the elevation in that area is extremely high due to it's position near the Egyt Mountains. It would give us an opportunity to develop the towns in that area of both of our countries though. Not much has been done there on either side of our border. At the moment it is basically a 150 miles wide, by 300 mile long empty space. Bhj867 (talk) 20:00, 5 June 2016 (CEST)

Profile pic

Nice pic! I like it :) Turnsole80 (talk) 01:54, 24 April 2017 (CEST)

Sa Hing in Pretany

I thought of asking you about certain places in St. Richards, about any popular concert halls or theatres in the 1930s (before the PFS separation). This is because I thought of Singkangia's most notable musician and former communist prime minister Ming Sa Hing visiting your country for a few years (maybe before he became communist and went back to Singkangia). Here is my extract for Sa Hing's life in Pretany:

After graduating in 1917, Sa Hing decided to settle in Uletha rather than returning to Singkangia, where there was civil strife between pro-independence activists and the Ingerish. He stayed in Winburgh (Ingerland) for awhile with a friend, before joining the Ulethan Symphonic Orchestra as a pianist and later percussionist. However, only after six months, he was forced to resign due to several issues in the orchestra. At this time, the orchestra was on a tour in Pretany when he was forced to resign and thus, Sa Hing decided to stay in Pretany before moving on.

Sa Hing then started taking odd jobs and eventually became a music teacher at a school in St. Richards (which school will you recommend). In the school, he sometimes conducted 'experiments' on timbres and his students were used as 'samples'. His experiments resulted in a few unique ensemble works premiered in Pretany in 1921. Although it was not a major success, it has generated enough interested by some Pretanic music composers such as Illisha Lenskiy. Later, Sa Hing was invited into the National League of Pretanic Composers (NLPC), which included Tom Briarmack, brother of John Briarmack, the would-be leader of Antigo.

However, the NLPC was disbanded in 1925 due to frictions between the Antigoan composers and Pretanic composers, and Sa Hing thus left Pretany.--Happy mapping and happy easter to all! ZK (talk) 16:02, 9 April 2018 (CEST)