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I've been thinking about this for a while, and with the Ingerland collab project getting underway I think it's a good time to talk about this. Anonymous21 (talk) 23:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

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Gaermanic Languages in West Uletha

As the "Europe" of OGF, there are a lot of Gaermanic (RW Germanic) languages in West Uletha. I've highlighted some of them on this map. Most of these are essentially equivalent to modern, currently existing languages.

West Ulethan Gaermanic Languages

OGF Language	RW Equivalent	RW Language Branch	Mapped In...	Color on Map
Ingerish	English	West Germanic	Ingerland	Red
Kalmish	German	West Germanic	Kalm	Blue
Lentian	Dutch	West Germanic	Lentië	Green
New Scandic/Svennish	Swedish	North Germanic	???	N/A
Norlensk	Icelandic	North Germanic	Norðurland	Yellow
Norric	Danish?	North Germanic?	Norrick (Nordrige)	Orange

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Gaermanic Languages in East Uletha

Many of the languages in East Uletha have plausibly Gaermanic roots, especially in the areas around the Darcodian Sea. Unlike in West Uletha, many of these are conlangs based on RW Germanic languages. Here are some of the key languages in the area (see index of languages for most of the named languages). Languages connected to English are in yellow, German or Dutch in red, and Nordic languages in blue. Languages without a clear name are listed with the name of the country in parentheses.

East Ulethan Gaermanic Languages

OGF Language	Connection to RW Languages	Mapped In...	Color on Map
Ingerish	English	Neberly, Glaster	Yellow
Eshen	Connected to English and German	Eshein	Orange
Karska	Connected to Swedish	Kara	Blue
Mergan	Connected to German, some Swedish	Mergania	Red
Ree	Connected to German and Dutch	Reelant	Red
Älvedic	Germanic, potentially connected to German and Nordic languages?	Älved	Purple
(Luthesien)	Apparently German	Luthesien	Red
(Remsfalen)	Apparently German	Remsfalen	Red
(Østermark)	Apparently connected to Swedish and some Danish	Østermark	Blue
(Helvetianien)	Apparently connected to German and Dutch	Helvetianien	Red
Blönnish Kalmish	A dialect of German	Blönland	Red
(Madische Union)	Apparently German	Madische Union	Red

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The Problem

Based off of the distribution of Gaermanic languages in the area, it is clear that the Darcodian Sea area has a heavy Gaermanic influence. What is not clear, however, is how that came to be. Some countries (Madische Union, Luthesien, Remsfalen, Reelant, and Blönland, for example) seem to be essentially Kalmish, which would imply a fairly recent colonization or settling by Kalmish peoples. Other countries (such as Eshein, Mergania, Kara, and Älved, for example) have languages related to but distinct from West Ulethan languages, which would imply that Gaermanic-speaking peoples have been in the area for some time, allowing for the divergence of these East Ulethan languages from their West Ulethan relatives.

Because there seems to be a mix of more postcolonially Gaermanic languages and historically Gaermanic languages. A couple of hypothetical explanations might be:

• Gaermanic languages have been in the area for centuries and have more recently reconnected with Kalmish in some areas
• Gaermanic languages have been in the area for centuries, and some of these Gaermanic-speaking areas were colonized by Kalm and now use Kalmish
• Gaermanic languages came to the area fairly recently through colonization

Each of these has pros and cons, but it might be a good idea to clarify some of this stuff as some of West Uletha (potentially the colonizing or parent countries) is being redesigned, especially with the removal of countries like Scandmark and others.