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[[File:Kojo admin pyramid.png|right|700px|An overview over the administrative structure of the Republic of Kojo.]]
<div class="forumheader" style="margin: 1; background-color: #eeeeee; text-align: left; padding: 5px;">'''[[Forum:Index|Forums]] &rarr; [[Forum:Global and regional issues|Global and regional issues]] &rarr; {{PAGENAME}}'''</div>[[Category:Global and regional issues]]
This article aims to give a comprehensive overview over all administrative subdivisions of [[Kojo|The Republic of Kojo]].
==Types of divisions==
{|class="wikitable"
|-
!  !! adm. level !! description !! number !! political autonomy
|-
| '''Kojo''' || 2 || The country || 1 || most
|-
| '''Iki''' || 4 || Regions || 13 || none, prefect executes orders from central government, Hibus and Surs coordinate their work
|-
| '''Sur''' || 6 || cities > 100.000 inh. || XXX || local elections for mayor and city council
|-
| '''Hibu''' || 6 || districts || XXX || local elections for Hibu-mayor and Hibu-council
|-
| '''Dengshō''' || 8 || boroughs, intermediate subdivision of some large Surs || XXX || none, some in [[Pyingshum]] and Finkyáse
|-
| '''Pang''' (urban) || 9 || neighbourhood in a Sur || XXX || none
|-
| '''Pang''' (free) || 9 || town in a Hibu || XXX || shares least amount of duties with Hibu
|-
| '''Pang''' (rural) || 9 || small town in a Hibu || XXX || shares some duties with Hibu
|-
| '''Pang''' (dependent) || 9 || small villages in Hibu || XXX || have their administrative work taken over by a larger Pang in the same Hibu
|-
| '''Jūwaéi''' || 10 || varying by Pang either small city quarter, small neighbourhood or single village. Used as basic unit in surveying or elections || XXX || none
|-
|}


===Iki===
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The 13 regions of Kojo are called Ikis. Ikis are used to subdivide the national government's services such as police, regional planning or conservatism into more effective local units. However Ikis themselves don't hold any sovereign power, there are no regional elections and a prefect is appointed by the national government, just as other nationally allocated administrative personnel and funds. At the same time, the Surs and Hibus coordinate their work on the Iki-level, for example by voluntarily delegating some of their functions to regional institutions commonly controlled by the municipalities, or by advancing their interest to the national government with a unified voice. Ikis form an important link between the national government on one side and local cities and district on the other side. On the Iki level, the two meet and need to strike a balance in areas of (narrowly defined) shared competencies.


The "city state" [[Rō]] is both an Iki and a Sur at the same time. The -iki suffix is spelled with a lower case "i".
Hello OGF!


===Sur and Hibu===
Recent discussion on the discord has led to the conclusion that, as a way to celebrate OGF's 10th Anniversary, a mapoff should be held in OGF's most well-renowned collaborative country, Khaiwoon.
Sur translates to "city". Every municipality that is larger than 100,000 inhabitants for 3 consecutive years can be granted this status, and every single city in Kojo has taken this opportunity. The remaining areas of an Iki are organised in Hibus ("district"). While a Sur is just one single city, a Hibu integrates all other settlements from tiny villages to towns of up to 99,999 inhabitants. In a Sur, citizens elect a city council as well as a mayor. The Sur is responsible for all matters that municipalities are entrusted with under the Kojolese constitution. On the other hand, in rural areas citizens elect both a local council and mayor for their municipality (Pang), as well as a Hibu-council and Hibu-chief. Depending on the capability of the municipality, some duties are performed and controlled on the Hibu-level, and the others are dealt with in the local communities. Generally, Surs and Hibus (and in the latter case to some degree the constituent municipalities) are the only administrative subdivisions in [[Kojo]] with a constitutionally granted degree of sovereignty and local elections.


Both Surs and Hibus are divided into Pangs, however these subdivisions are alike only by name, and not by form or function. The -sur and the -hibu suffix are spelled with a lower case.
Right now, this forum thread is for planning and discussion. '''Khaiwoon is not currently open for mapping.'''


===Dengshō===
Things that need to happen before the mapoff (which is not a competition) begins are as follows:
Dengshōs are used to divide larger Surs. These Dengshōs (roughly equivalent to "borough") are then subdivided into neighbourhoods, the Pangs.


In [[Pyingshum]] and Finkyáse, the Dengshōs serve as "cities inside the cities", with their own locally elected borough-boards, which in turn elect a borough-mayor, and an independent budget. They have some competencies in the area of road construction, amenities, ordinances, building permits etc. In other cities with Dengshōs, such borough-boards are either advisory bodies nominated by the city council based on the local election results of the last municipal election, or do not exist at all.
=== Khaiwoon currently, in its untouched state, should be preserved, most likely in Arhet.===


The -Dengshō suffix is spelled with a upper case "D".
=== The structure for how space will be divided needs to be established. There are two possibilities that I see here: ===


===Pang===
a) Khaiwoon is divided into neighborhoods. Each mapper can claim a neighborhood, and works only on that area (or on other areas if invited to by other mappers).
The word Pang describes a number of different types of territories:


*'''Urban Pangs''' are neighbourhoods of Surs. They don't have local elections or hold any sovereignty, but are frequently used to allocate city services, for local identification or as the lowest subdivision for political parties, other clubs etc.
b) Mappers post where they will be working, and talk on this forum thread about their plans, collaborating more organically.
*'''Free Pangs''' ("towns") are municipalities inside of a Hibu which are large enough to take on every duty that does not imperatively need to be dealt with on Hibu-level. For example, public transportation by law has to be organised by the Hibus (and in fact in most regions the Hibus in turn even delegate that to a shared regional service), while the construction and maintenance of otherwise Hibu-level roads can and has to be taken on by Free Pangs. Like all other Pangs that are part of a hibu, even if it might contain more than one continuous area of settlement, it acts as one municipality with different settlements being regarded as "neighbourhoods". Its citizens elect a town council and a mayor.
*'''Rural Pangs''' ("villages") are the most common type of municipality in Kojo. These usually are villages or small towns that are responsible for most municipal functions, however some (such as secondary schooling) are delegated to the Hibu-level. Like Free Pangs, they have local elections for a town council and a mayor.
*'''Dependent Pangs''' are on the other side of the spectrum: they are usually so sparsely populated that they voluntarily delegate all their administrative functions to another, larger Pang nearby. They only elect a mayor who acts as a spokesperson of the Pang's interest. They are free to redeem their duties from the entrusted Pang, but then need to come up with the respective financial means to fund that independent administration.


The -Pang suffix is spelled with an upper case "P".
There are pros and cons to both A and B. A is obviously more organized and will result in less conflict, but risks having Khaiwoon look disjointed, like multiple different areas all mapped differently with less cohesion and overall planning. B will inevitably result in edit conflicts, but with good collaboration could produce a very nice blending of many user's styles that would be unique and in the spirit of the collab as a showcase for OGF. Perhaps a blending of A and B, where users work mainly in one area but are free to work elsewhere if they work things out with other users who are working in the same space? Please feel free to suggest other ideas!


===Jūwaéi===
=== Guidelines for the collab must be established. Here's a starting point  based on discussions: ===
A "Jūwaéi" either encompasses a small city quarter or block in an urban Pang, or a neighbourhood or small settlement in a free, dependent or rural Pang. Jūwaéis are the smallest contiguous units for forming electoral districts or other official boundaries. They also pose as the smallest statistical unit in official publicised data and are the basis for land surveying.
a)  The "feel/style" of neighborhoods should be preserved, with the current mapping as a base. The goal is to continue developing it, not to completely re-do everything.  


Jūwaéis are identified by a unique number in each municipality. In small villages, this could mean a plot of land is identified as "Jūwaéi 164" with parcels being subdivided by adding additional numbers after a dash. In larger municipalities or after territorial reforms, numbering systems can be more complex. Jūwaéis are not mapped or mentioned in the listing below.
b)As there are varying levels of quality in the country, opinions should be gathered on a case-by-case basis about what can be mostly deleted, what should only be further detailed with little to no deletion, and what should not be touched.


==Addresses==
c) The old town (what's within the motorway u at the center) and diplomatic quarter should not be touched for now.
''Name (, c.o. etc.)''<br>
''Street, Number (, add. info)''<br>
''Municipality (Sur or free/rural/dependent Pang), 4 digit postal code''<br>
''KOJO''


==List of administrative divisions in Kojo==
d) Country-wide issues that require changes (possibly trains, public transit) should be discussed as a group before changes are made.
===Cheryuman-iki===
====Kwaengdō-sur====


====Tsuyenji-sur====
e) All the new stuff must continue to obey isleno's excellent topo map.


====Zúkshi (Cheryuman h.)-sur====
=== Some overall things need changing - here's some stuff people have brought up: ===


====PH-hibu====
a) The farms should be slimmed down a little and turned into mainly plantations and greenhouses, with less (but not no) pastures and farm fields.
ADD AUTO-TABLES


===Chin'yaku-iki===
b)  The eastern islands should be rethought.
====Tinglyū-sur====


====Īme-sur====
c)  The language needs some more thought.


====Línai-sur====
d)  Trains seem to need a re-work.


====PH-hibu====
Please provide thoughts below about all of this.


===Degyáhin-Kibaku Yuwantsūm-Shikime-iki===
--[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 22:53, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Lithium-Ion
====Nároggul-sur====


====Leshfyomi-sul-sur====


====PH-hibu====
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ADD AUTO-TABLES
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===Fóskiman-iki===
I feel like Central Khaiwoon—or even the entire western portion of the large island—should be mapped by people working together, while the peripheral areas (eg. Batjun) and the rest of the islands (eg. Rockburn Island) can be mapped individually. So yes, a mix of A and B would be the best way to operate this collab. --[[User:IiEarth|IiEarth]] ([[User talk:IiEarth|talk]]) 23:17, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
====Finkyáse-sur====
2,435,600 inhabitants, 380.4 km², 6,400 inh./km²
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-expanded hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!class="unsortable"| Name of Dengshō & Number
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area (incl. water)
!population
!pop. density
!Notes
!Rel. ID
|-
|Dosyaeng (1)
|Inner City
|34.5 km²
|642,600
|18,600 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/209892 209892]
|-
|Salmara (2)
|
|46.6 km²
|448,900
|9,600 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/219435 219435]
|-
|Ruyol (3)
|
|35.0 km²
|126,200
|3,600 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216819 216819]
|-
|Zūkyao (4)
|Zu-bridge
|50.7 km²
|938,600
|18,500 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/248085 248085]
|-
|Bloéman-Mihóljaen (5)
|Blue coast-unknown
|107.7 km²
|430,200
|4,000 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/241284 241284]
|-
|Zonttael (6)
|
| 66.6 km²
| 241,500
| 3,600 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/262855 262855]
|-
|Omgyu-Nēé (7)
|artificial name from Ōmda and Omsul, + unknown
| 30.4 km²
| 250,200
| 8,200 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/254009 254009]
|-
|}
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Pangs in Dengshō 1 - Dosyaeng
I second to what iiEarth has proposed, although I would like to propose an amendment: based on what has been discussed on possibly having a mix between A and B, I feel like we can have the peripheral neighborhoods be "coordinated" by users who claim them, and said users would discuss and collaborate with nearby mappers accordingly. Personally, having mappers map only within their respective neighborhoods with seldom collaboration could lead to discontinuity in the mapping styles, names, etc. To summarize, I second iiEarth's proposal with the amendment of having mappers coordinate, but not "own" neighborhoods. --[[User:Geoc3ladus|Geoc3ladus]] ([[User talk:Geoc3ladus|talk]]) 00:18, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Bodekael
|
|4.0 km²
|51,300
|12,800 inh./km²
|
|5.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/210092 210092]
|-
|Doelrang
|
|1.6 km²
|37,900
|23,700 inh./km²
|
|7.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/210093 210093]
|-
|Hikárem
|
|1.9 km²
|7,800
|4,100 inh./km²
|Resort and party beach
|7.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/209891 209891]
|-
|Hinman-Yingda
|
|2.9 km²
|53,100
|18,300 inh./km²
|
|8.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/209893 209893]
|-
|Joféyam
|
|2.0 km²
|44,400
|22,200 inh./km²
|
|8.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/210095 210095]
|-
|Jontye
|
|2.4 km²
|14,000
|5,800 inh./km²
|
|7.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/217565 217565]
|-
|Kaerí-Kōto
|Unkown-grande street
|2.0 km²
|55,400
|27,700 inh./km²
|
|8.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/218241 218241]
|-
|Lingzacchol-Kaēzi
|
|2.5 km²
|77,500
|31,000 inh./km²
|
|7.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/218242 218242]
|-
|Oecchasul
|Oeccha-town
|2.3 km²
|85,100
|37,000 inh./km²
|
|6.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/210096 210096]
|-
|Ōnagara
|
|2.4 km²
|88,300
|36,800 inh./km²
|Contains main university campus
|8.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/210094 210094]
|-
|Óram'uel
|
|0.9 km²
|8,000
|8,900 inh./km²
|
|4.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/218243 218243]
|-
|Prémuē
|afterwall
|1.5 km²
|36,600
|24,400 inh./km²
|
|8.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/209895 209895]
|-
|Roejjain
|
|1.8 km²
|8,300
|4,600 inh./km²
|Old town
|6.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/218244 218244]
|-
|Sólaeiman
|
|2.4 km²
|5,500
|2,300 inh./km²
|
|9.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/209890 209890]
|-
|Thurn et Sasó
|
|3.9 km²
|69,400
|17,800 inh./km²
|
|9.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/209894 209894]
|-
|}
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Pangs in Dengshō 2 - Salmara
I also think that a kind of mixed way between A and B can work.
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I am especially interested in the point d), helping in reworking the railway system. --[[User:Izaland Terramorphing Committee|Izaland Terramorphing Committee]] ([[User talk:Izaland Terramorphing Committee|talk]]) 01:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Alkózul
|
|4.3 km²
|105,800
|24,600 inh./km²
|
|5.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/217949 217949]
|-
|Alta
|
|5.0 km²
|24,000
|4,800 inh./km²
|
|4.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/221544 221544]
|-
|Boecchi-Nogguel'yū
|
|8.3 km²
|58,700
|7,100 inh./km²
|
|5.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/227283 227283]
|-
|Gorjí
|
|2.4 km²
|21,600
|9,000 inh./km²
|
|3.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/220652 220652]
|-
|Kaijoettsul
|
|7.3 km²
|35,000
|4,800 inh./km²
|
|5.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/227284 227284]
|-
|Kenzaisul
|Garden City
|6.0 km²
|16,800
|2,800 inh./km²
|
|8.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/227285 227285]
|-
|Limbē Rόng'yeda
| west honour field
|3.2 km²
|50,900
|15,900 inh./km²
|
|4.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/217948 217948]
|-
|Offuel
|
|2.2 km²
|1,900
|700 inh./km²
|
|6.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/225280 225280]
|-
|Rόng'yeda
|Honour field
|2.8 km²
|44,200
|15,800 inh./km²
|
|3.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/220653 220653]
|-
|Salmara
|
|5.2 km²
|90,000
|17,300 inh./km²
|
|6.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/217950 217950]
|-
|}
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Pangs in Dengshō 3 - Ruyol
:I'm glad that there's general consensus on this topic so far - I personally agree with Geoc3ladus's proposal. --[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Chin Aengda
|
|5.0 km²
|17,200
|3,400 inh./km²
|
|5.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216821 216821]
|-
|Doreé
|
|4.6 km²
|32,700
|7,100 inh./km²
|
|3.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216820 216820]
|-
|Jaeikol de
|
|2.5 km²
|16,800
|6,700 inh./km²
|
|7.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216822 216822]
|-
|Kai Bolson
|
|7.4 km²
|8,600
|1,150 inh./km²
|
|6.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216823 216823]
|-
|Kyímamuel
|
|4.8 km²
|18,700
|3,900 inh./km²
|
|8.5
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216824 216824]
|-
|Lēnakkol
|
|4.7 km²
|16,900
|3,600 inh./km²
|
|8.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216826 216826]
|-
|Ruyol
|
|2.3 km²
|15,300
|6,650 inh./km²
|
|6.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/216825 216825]
|-
|}
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Pangs in Dengshō 4 - Zūkyao
A hybrid between A and B can work. Especially designating the more crucial national infrastructure of the country. Like the harbour, universities (University of Khaiwoon), the race course for the Khaiwoon Grand Prix, military bases (navy, air force), a national sporting centre to host regional games, waterworks facilities (desalination plants and reservoirs), electricity (power plants, windmills, solar farms), petrochemical hubs etc etc.
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Alfaradō
|
|4.5 km²
|149,900
|33,300 inh./km²
|
|6.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/231646 231646]
|-
|Betotsuē
|
|2.5 km²
|82,000
|32,800 inh./km²
|
|6.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/246762 246762]
|-
|Biccho-Kainda
|
|1.0 km²
|20,800
|20,800 inh./km²
|
|5.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/231648 231648]
|-
|Doelnda-Kíhi-Pang
|
|4.1 km²
|87,700
|21,400 inh./km²
|
|5.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/246761 246761]
|-
|Haji
|
|7.2 km²
|109,400
|15,200 inh./km²
|
|6.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/231647 231647]
|-
|Lamtyamankoel
|blessing coast hamlet
|3.3 km²
|29,400
|8,900 inh./km²
|
|6.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/210099 210099]
|-
|Orang'yētuel
|
|3.8 km²
|103,400
|27,200 inh./km²
|
|5.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/246763 246763]
|-
|Palnain
|Brown Rock
|3.8 km²
|5,800
|1,500 inh./km²
|
|3.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/248084 248084]
|-
|Ryoelpan
|
|4.6 km²
|95,700
|20,800 inh./km²
|
|4.4.
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/218299 218299]
|-
|Súzu
|
|8.2 km²
|132,600
|16,200 inh./km²
|
|4.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/231645 231645]
|-
|Wokkwang
|
|5.8 km²
|81,800
|14,100 inh./km²
|
|4.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/232027 232027]
|-
|Zūkyao
|water bridge
|2.2 km²
|40,100
|18,200 inh./km²
|
|4.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/210100 210100]
|-
|}
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Pangs in Dengshō 5 - Bloéman-Mihóljaen
While I also wish to rework the rail infrastructure in the country, priority should be detailing the various areas of Khaiwoon. I would like to look at Khaiwoon more organically and see how the city could have expanded. This will identify which areas are "older" and "newer", which will affect how each neighbourhood would look like and in turn how the metro is developed (the first lines will serve the major areas first). I also note that Khaiwoon is built on various islands merged together. We might need to identify the older historical islands, which are perhaps the basis for various regional hubs.
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Bloéman
|Blue coast
|4.3 km²
|15,500
|3,600 inh./km²
|
|6.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/235750 235750]
|-
|Chae
|
|5.5 km²
|44,700
|8,100 inh./km²
|
|4.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/239456 239456]
|-
|Chin Mihóljaen-Pang
|
|5.4 km²
|25,000
|4,600 inh./km²
|
|4.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/241288 241288]
|-
|Dolda
|
|4.7 km²
|32,100
|6,800 inh./km²
|
|4.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/241286 241286]
|-
|Golnryemda
|
|11.9 km²
|41,500
|3,500 inh./km²
|
|2.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/237090 237090]
|-
|Limbē Bloéman
|West blue coast
|9.6 km²
|26,800
|2,800 inh./km²
|
|8.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/235748 235748]
|-
|Mihóljaen
|
|6.8 km²
|38,600
|5,700 inh./km²
|
|3.5
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/239457 239457]
|-
|Moldi
|
|12.2 km²
|37,400
|3,100 inh./km²
|
|6.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/237105 237105]
|-
|Moshwairā
|
|2.5 km²
|15,000
|6,000 inh./km²
|
|6.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/241285 241285]
|-
|Mōzelkyain
|
|8.3 km²
|75,500
|9,100 inh./km²
|
|4.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/238567 238567]
|-
|Otomi
|
|11.2 km²
|17,900
|1,600 inh./km²
|
|4.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/235749 235749]
|-
|Sīsol
|
|14.1 km²
|14,200
|1,000 inh./km²
|
|6.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/237091 237091]
|-
|Sōn-Ritátsu Kowe de
|Saint Ritatsu upon the Grave
|11.5 km²
|46,000
|4,000 inh./km²
|
|7.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/241287 241287]
|-
|}
</div>


Pangs in Dengshō 6 - Zonttael
For reference on the language, here is the [https://i.imgur.com/iAgKPwN.png script].--[[User:Zhenkang|Zhenkang]] ([[User talk:Zhenkang|talk]]) 07:26, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Bokaim Zólsoi
|
|13.5 km²
|28,500
|2,100 inh./km²
|
|7.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/262851 262851]
|-
|Ebonguel
|
|4.9 km²
|22,100
|4,500 inh./km²
|
|6.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/245943 245943]
|-
|Foettsol
|
|7.8 km²
|5,300
|680 inh./km²
|
|7.5
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/262852 262852]
|-
|Kaemni
|
|9.0 km²
|41,500
|4,600 inh./km²
|
|4.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/244452 244452]
|-
|Mékesul-Nāngli
|
|10.6 km²
|71,000
|6,700 inh./km²
|
|4.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/262853 262853]
|-
|Shaitán
|
|15.3 km²
|28,800
|1,900 inh./km²
|
|5.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/245946 245946]
|-
|Tekwan
|
|5.4 km²
|44,300
|8,200 inh./km²
|
|4.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/262854 262854]
|-
|}
</div>


Pangs in Dengshō 7 - Omgyu-Nēé
Further adding on: we can split the Khaiwoon project into multiple "centres" which can be further divided into neighbourhoods. Each "zone" will have a theme (more residential? more industrial? more historical? more cultural?).--[[User:Zhenkang|Zhenkang]] ([[User talk:Zhenkang|talk]]) 07:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Chin Madoka
|
| 4.4 km²
| 9,300
| 2,100 inh./km²
|
|7.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/251992 251992]
|-
|Kenzuel
| Park village
| 3.1 km²
| 14,700
| 4,700 inh./km²
|
|7.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/251877 251877]
|-
|Lauta
|
| 5.8 km²
| 71,200
| 12,200 inh./km²
|
|6.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/254008 254008]
|-
|Nattegwo
|
| 4.4 km²
| 14,400
| 3,300 inh./km²
|
|5.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/251876 251876]
|-
|Ōmda
|
| 6.8 km²
| 93,500
| 13,800 inh./km²
|
|5.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/251879 251879]
|-
|Omsul
|
| 3.0 km²
| 36,000
| 12,000 inh./km²
|
|5.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/251878 251878]
|-
|Yitíchin'gi
|
| 3.0 km²
| 11,100
| 3,700 inh./km²
|
|6.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/251993 251993]
|-
|}
</div>


====Womenlū-sur====
:[[File:Khaiwoon-terrain-map.jpg|thumb|240x240px|Reclaimed land in yellow.]]There are some images on the wiki showing the reclaimed land - Khaiwoon-terrain-map.jpg  and Khaiwoon-1868-map.jpg are basically the original vision for Khaiwoon's "land history" as far as I can tell. ---[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
====Ántibes-sur====
403,870 inhabitants, 86.6 km², 4,700 inh./km²
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-expanded hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!class="unsortable"| Name of Dengshō & Number
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area (incl. water)
!population
!pop. density
!Notes
!Rel. ID
|-
|Dosyaeng (1)
|Inner City
|11.1 km²
|132,290
|11,900 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/208032 208032]
|-
|Dyongkala (2)
|East Beach
|13.2 km²
|48,710
|3,700 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/208040 208040]
|-
|Chin-Maéida (3)
|New nicefield
|19.5 km²
|57,340
|2,900 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/208051 208051]
|-
|Chaélnūchala (4)
|Ray Beach
|42.9 km²
|165,530
|3,900 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/208066 208066]
|-
|}
</div>


Pangs in Dengshō 1 - Dosyaeng
I feel like there needs to be a little bit more clarity on the mapping style of Khaiwoon and it's irl inspiration. I hear that Singapore is the main inspiration, with a bit of Hong Kong as well, but neither of those cities use grids anywhere near as much as Khaiwoon. Is it planned to remove a lot of the grids, just keeping the main roads, or keep the grids and diverge further from Singapore? Right now, the mapping looks are bit more like Xiamen (www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/24.4921/118.1312). [[User:Gubble|Gubble]] ([[User talk:Gubble|talk]]) 12:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Kūtokkyaen-Pang
|Old town
|1.2 km²
|15,000
|12,500 inh./km²
|Old town, enclosed by inner ring road.
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Limbē-Mátokkyaen
|West-front-city
|1.6 km²
|21,760
|13,600 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Soki
|Pine-tree
|3.2 km²
|45,440
|14,200 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Lyazókala
|azure beach
|1.2 km²
|10,320
|8,600 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Nafahang
|harbour
|3.4 km²
|39,770
|11,800 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>


Pangs in Dengshō 2 - Dyongkala
:I think that the grid style and alignments should be kept - it looks good and makes sense to me, and uniqueness is part of what makes Khaiwoon feel like more than just an OGF:Singapore. --[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Chatókenzai
|Château park 
|1.5 km²
|7,800
|5,200 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Dyongkala
|East Beach
|3.7 km²
|15,940
|4,308 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Hoesshuel-Taisē
|
|2.3 km²
|5,100
|2,217 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Sōn-Mári Kapitol de
|St. Mary on the Capitol
|2.3 km²
|10,120
|4,400 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Tanéruka
|large-present
|2.1 km²
|8,450
|4,024 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Ūkwaem
|
|0.7 km²
|1,300
|1,857 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>


Pangs in Dengshō 3 - Chin-Maéida
::I'm just going to formally state for the record since I saw it come up in discussions about this elsewhere- in terms of retaining uniqueness, I believe retaining the original language of Khaiwoon is a must. isleño left a very detailed well-crafted conlang and even information on how words are structured, common syllables, etc. It seems integral and bare minimum to retain if this collab is intended to be based on his original vision. --[[User:Ernestpkirby|Ernestpkirby]] ([[User talk:Ernestpkirby|talk]]) 21:14, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Chin-Maéida
|New nicefield
|1.3 km²
|11,180
|8,600 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Lezál
|
|1.2 km²
|9,360
|7,800 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Mokwaesung
|
|5.9 km²
|13,300
|2,250 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Pyin'guel-Tsūdan-Taraeppyol
|
|10.1 km²
|23,500
|2,330 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>


Pangs in Dengshō 4 - Chaélnūchala
----------
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
I'm not sure I like the idea of turning Khaiwoon into a collab. If you want to build OGF:Singapore, you can put it somewhere else - nearby, or far away (maybe closer to OGF:EastAsia...). Based on other collabs (and the fact that we have far more collabs already than we have interested participants), I'm not sure that Khaiwoon would be ''improved'' by becoming a collab. Bear in mind, too - I am still in touch with isleño, and he has not ruled out returning to OGF.--[[User:Luciano|Luciano]] ([[User talk:Luciano|talk]]) 14:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
{| class="sortable wikitable"
:Agreed. There's no shortage of vacant mapping (and inactive collabs) available in the OGF world. No point in redoing what's already mapped when we have so much new real estate we could leverage into this kind of megaproject instead. --[[User:TheMayor|TheMayor]] ([[User talk:TheMayor|talk]]) 14:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
|-
::The goal isn't to turn Khaiwoon into a collab again - I don't think anyone wants to add another permanent collab to OGF at the moment, as we're rather full (as you've pointed out). Rather, the hope is to celebrate OGF by briefly opening Khaiwoon to continue to develop it for about a month, continuing the vision of Khaiwoon. I think there's a lot of interest in participating in improving and continuing to build Khaiwoon, and I hope that it would be a success. Nevertheless, you two both make good points, and ultimately it is in the hands of the regional admin/the admin team as a whole. --[[User:Lithium|Lithium-Ion]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
!Name of Pang
:::Okay, that's clear. I'd then focus on additions to existing mapping, not improvements or alterations: ie add building, upgrade ''existing'' rail/subway etc, get land use tagging in line with osm standards, etc.--[[User:Luciano|Luciano]] ([[User talk:Luciano|talk]]) 16:41, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Chaélnūchala
|
|3.2 km²
|14,720
|4,600 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Wīkangman
|
|2.8 km²
|19,500
|6,960 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Sōn-Ribichúkal
|
|7.0 km²
|25,200
|3,600 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Sōn-Míshaell
|
|0.6 km²
|9,700
|16,200 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Antída
|
|3.6 km²
|27,360
|7,600 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Yēbonhaim
|
|1.5 km²
|14,850
|9,900 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Ikkyamuel
|
|3.4 km²
|6,400
|1,882 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Kólize-Pambyol
|
|4.2 km²
|12,400
|2,950 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Gyánkala
|
|2.0 km²
|2,600
|1,300 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Attsuel
|
|2.7 km²
|2,700
|1,000 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Ginglyúhossen-Telma
|
|4.4 km²
|4,800
|1,090 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Makkusul
|
|2.7 km²
|18,900
|7,000 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Payuel
|
|3.1 km²
|6,400
|2,065 inh./km²
|
|X.X
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>
 
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===Gyoéng'guffe-iki===
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====Busakyueng-sur====
 
====Góhomi-sur====
 
====Unzai-sur====
 
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===Lainyerō-iki===
====Manlung-sur====
 
====Oreppyo-sur====
 
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====Jippun-sur====
 
====Kōnil-sur====
 
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===Nainchok-iki===
====Toribiri-sur====
 
====Chin-Jōrin-sur====
 
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====Jaka-sur====
 
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===Pyingshum-iki===
====[[Pyingshum]]-sur====
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-expanded hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!class="unsortable"| Name of Dengshō & Number
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!Notes
!Rel. ID
|-
|Dosyaeng (1)
|Inner City
|108,3
|2,810,110
|26,238
|City Centre, encircled by circular motorway
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11267 11267]
|-
|Kókōburyu (2)
|Garlicplace
|216.4
|
|
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25514 25514]
|-
|Sasu so Kyaeng (3)
|Sasu's hamlet
|69.2
|
|
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25517 25517]
|-
|Akuchaeki (4)
|Southforest
|118.5
|
|
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25513 25513]
|-
|Porāgu (5)
|Name of former city
|131.9
|601,900
|4,600
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25516 25516]
|-
|Mezoérushi (6)
|Lumerjack town
|255.4
|
|
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25515 25515]
|-
|Indásugwo-Manpyalsul (7)
|Industryworks-Manpyaltown
|211.1
|
|
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/185134 185134]
|-
|Zaelkom (8)
|unkown
|102.8
|
|
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/185135 185135]
|-
|Wakéyoel máre Man (9)
|"Man" in front of Wakéyoel
|96.8
|
|
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/185121 185121]
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 1 - Dosyaeng
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours  mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|A'eru
|upstream
|2.5 km²
|64,000
|25,600
|
|8.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/21544 21544]
|-
|Agunas
|Name of a local Holiness
|4.5 km²
|84,600
|18,800
|
|9.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11270 11270]
|-
|Bikkifuē
|Zoo
| km²
|
|
|
|6.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/32189 32189]
|-
|Bunkyō Chilzu
|Signsmaking-teaching
| km²
|
|
|
|8.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11967 11967]
|-
|Byoengwe
|Hospital
|2.7 km²
|54,400
|20,200
|
|7.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/32190 32190]
|-
|Cheon'gyecchi
|Name of a person
|3.4 km²
|114,300
|33,600
|
|7.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/29735 29735]
|-
|Chinkágaldosim
|Newtown-inner city
|1.9 km²
|15,400
|8,100
|New CBD at Aku-Dyanchezi, developed in the 1970's-2000's. Mostly office towers, hotels and a few luxury apartments
|9.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/23181 23181]
|-
|Chuzaéru
|Unknown
|1.2 km²
|41,900
|34,900
|
|6.5
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/21545 21545]
|-
|Dachiya-dasu
|Fountain
|3.6 km²
|
|
|
|7.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/32191 32191]
|-
|Daiamondoshi
|Diamond sparkle
|2.8 km²
|14,800
|5,300
|City expansion planned after the democratic revolution in 1834 to house government facilities. Characteristic symmetrical road layout and buildings in the Ozuman style. Most valuable residential property in the country, high-end offices and retail.
|10.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11271 11271]
|-
|Doíku
|Opposite
|1.6 km²
|27,900
|17,400
|Pre-industrial neighbourhood on the southern bank of the river.
|8.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/20660 20660]
|-
|Fēmenlisur
|Iron warehouse
| km²
|
|
|Wealthy north, social housing along the highway
|5.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/23182 23182]
|-
|Gaerié so-Pang
|Guerrier (Ataraxian; Warrior's Pang)
|3.7 km²
|99,20
|26,800
|Named after the Enkēle Gaerié so Saélbufo, the national memorial shrine for fallen soldiers. Contains highly pedestrianised areas with vivid street life.
|7.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/32192 32192]
|-
|Gankakuchō
|Chancellor
|2.1 km²
|41,60
|19,800
|Seat of the new Chancellery since 1992. Seat of many government offices, NGOs and other cultural institutions. Modern architecture from the late 20th century in the south due to the great fire of 1984.
|9.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11968 11968]
|-
|Goengyuē
|In-between city
|2.6 km²
|73,700
|28,100
|Partly pre-industrial sprawl outside the old city wall, partly developed from 1850's onward between the old and the "new" city center.
|8.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11421 11421]
|-
|Gyu
|Seed
| km²
|
|
|Highly polarised between social housing near the highway and recently gentrified areas in walking distance to Chinkágaldosim-Pang and Aku-Dyanchezi.
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/30454 30454]
|-
|Hintajuemba
|Mountain outside of the city
|3.0 km²
|50,400
|16,800
|Built around and on a hill between the river and a disconnected former meander, offering scenic views. Mostly built up in the 1850's-1900's.
|9.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11614 11614]
|-
|Kami so Kuruchi
|Gods' quarter
|3.3 km²
|72,600
|22,000
|Constructed in the late 19th century, after Daiamondoshi-Pang was finished, in a similar style.
|9.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11422 11422]
|-
|Kissha
|Song Thrush
| km²
|
|
|Industrial and residential area from the 1870's onwards
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/18040 18040]
|-
|Kūtokkyaen
|Old City
|2.1 km²
|37,200
|17,700
|Oldest part of the city, tourism and bars, largely defined by the second city wall. Medieval and pre-industrial buildings preserved for most part.
|8.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11272 11272]
|-
|Kyáoling
|Bridge-place
|2.6 km²
|95,400
|36,700
|Second of the three big social housing projects in the inner city, 1970's. Developed in block-structures.
|3.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11969 11969]
|-
|Lamtyaichi
|blessing water
|3.0 km²
|111,600
|37,200
|
|7.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25595 25595]
|-
|Lí
|unknown
|3.5 km²
|65,500
|18,700
|Especially western part close to government quarters is a popular residential neighbourhood for diplomats and alike.
|9.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/20725 20725]
|-
|Matsukān
|Daisy way
|2.0 km²
|82,400
|41,200
|Last of the three big social housing projects in inner city, 1980's
|2.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/29428 29428]
|-
|Mómauel
|Mill village
|1.8 km²
|67,700
|37,600
|The area used to be a little cargo reloading site as the Sunmyuel canal leads into the river Kime. Today the harbour is used by tourist ships for river cruises. The former merchant offices are now background for a scenic shopping, strolling and nightlife area.
|7.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11970 11970]
|-
|Namgangshu
|Sparkle river bank
|1.7 km²
|60,900
|35,800
|Historic center used to be a separate town; iconic nightlife with restaurants, bars, clubs, shops and a wide river esplanade.
|8.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11971 11971]
|-
|Ōnagara
|University
|2.5 km²
|41,500
|16,600
|Seat of Ginjin university's main campus. About one half is occupied by university facilities and parkland.
|9.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11423 11423]
|-
|Onsen-tōjiru
|unknown
|2.3 km²
|99,100
|43,100
|Poorest neighbourhood in the inner city, experiencing both gentrification and loss of jobs since the 1980's after transformation of the airfield into a park.
|1.4
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/32193 32193]
|-
|Pamyung
|Otter-King
| km²
|
|
|First of three big social housing projects in the inner city. Originally dominated by detached city-villas and perimeter block buildings, it was redeveloped in the 1950's and 60's. The old street grid and some heritage buildings remained, creating heavy contrasts between them and the new tower blocks. Most densely populated neighbourhood in Kojo.
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11268 11268]
|-
|Risushel
|Name of an artist
| km²
|
|
|
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/23183 23183]
|-
|Rom'yusu
|Wheat packer
|2.7 km²
|87,200
|32,300
|Typical expansion around the beginning of 20th century.
|8.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25597 25597]
|-
|Róng'yeda
|Honour-Field
|2.7 km²
|102,100
|37,800
|Formerly industrial, edgy, working-class neighbourhood, popular amongst the creative Avantgarde in the 70's. Nowadays strongly gentrified.
|6.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/11269 11269]
|-
|Sébastopól
|Name of an architect and city planner
|2.7 km²
|111,200
|41,200
|Sébastopol created the Yaeyaésā so Fórum, a highly praised social residential quarter, in the 1940's after the space was cleared from industrial usage.
|6.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/20659 20659]
|-
|Senjahi
|Bird's Melody
|XX km²
|
|
|Transitional neighbourhood between the Ozuman-style Daiamondoshi and later more organic expansions, south of the presidential mansion.
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/18041 18041]
|-
|Shōjuē-Mayong
|Name of a person
|XX km²
|
|
|
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25596 25596]
|-
|Songduchi-makkā
|unknown
| km²
|
|
|
|xX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/32194 32194]
|-
|Wakawushi
|Squire
| km²
|
|
|
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25321 25321]
|-
|Weso zekunde
|Six items
| km²
|
|
|Formerly industrial, still comparatively strong commercial usage.
|XX
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/32195 32195]
|-
|Wilsū-pan
|brew-village
|3.5 km²
|131,600
|37,600
|
|7.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/29736 29736]
|-
|Zaeyunsha-Okokoroshaē
|
|2.6 km²
|94,40
|36,300
|
|8.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/25457 25457]
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 2 - Kókōburyu
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|Aku-Haelsong
|
|10.7
|13,000
|1,215
|
|
|-
|Byueshael
|
|2.6
|23,920
|9,200
|
|
|-
|Daembol-Tenshi
|
|5.4
|29,160
|5,400
|
|4.3
|-
|Kaerguel
|
|12.9
|23,500
|1,822
|
|
|-
|Láiden
|
|7.0
|35,700
|5,100
|
|6.2
|-
|Maéisul
|Beautiful City
|3.1
|39,060
|12,600
|
|
|-
|Osujíl
|Favourite (village)
|3.7
|37,200
|9,400
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 3 - Sasu so Kyaeng
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|Andyaésul-Dyong
|Andyae-city-east
|1.5
|
|16,800
|
|3.8
|-
|Andyaésul-Limbē
|Andyae-city-west
|3.4
|
|19,250
|
|5.4
|-
|Aéffem
|
|2.3
|21,850
|9,500
|
|5.9
|-
|Dokkyu
|
|1.8
|12,420
|6,900
|
|3.8
|-
|Dosō
|
|3.1
|29,450
|9,500
|
|4.7
|-
|Hosōdeng
|
|2.1
|15,750
|7,500
|
|6.6
|-
|Joengsha
|Flag maker
|2.0
|29,300
|14,650
|
|5.6
|-
|Kalji
|
|2.6
|18,460
|7,100
|
|5.3
|-
|Mádoka-Fil
|
|4.6
|79,810
|17,350
|
|6.4
|-
|Sasu so Kyaeng
|Name of a person's hamlet-ward
|2.2
|30,200
|13,730
|Centre for south-eastern Pyingshum
|7.0
|-
|Suedalkaémburī
|
|2.5
|16,500
|6,600
|
|6.2
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 4 - Akuchaeki
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|Andeng Kóte de
|
|7.2
|100,400
|13,900
|
|
|-
|Hōsol
|
|6.7
|22,000
|3,300
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 5 - Porāgu
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|Banuel
|
|12.1
|34,800
|2,900
|
|3.6
|-
|Boshnīmyong
|
|11.8
|142,000
|12,000
|
|4.0
|-
|Éngkai
|
|19.2
|80,600
|4,200
|
|6.1
|-
|Higáldo
|Name of a person
|10.4
|23,500
|2,300
|
|8.3
|-
|Kim'eru
|Kime mead
|17.2
|36,100
|2,100
|
|6.7
|-
|Kyuren
|
|10.4
|40,600
|3,900
|
|8.1
|-
|Lyaesh'uel Zyendō hakki
|
|8.4
|39,500
|4,700
|
|5.2
|-
|Otten
|Turtel
|12.8
|42,000
|3,300
|
|7.8
|-
|Porāgu
|
|19.2
|119,100
|6,200
|
|4.6
|-
|Porāgu Mátokkyaen
|Porāgu suburb
|10.4
|43,700
|4,200
|
|7.2
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 6 - Mezoérushi
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|Tsūnaka
|3.3 km²
|102,600
|31,100
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 7 - Indásugwo-Manpyalsul
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|Akkwa
|
|5.5
|87,400
|15,890
|
|
|-
|Ényabboeng
|
|8.5
|131,100
|15,420
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 8 - Zaelkom
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|Ēmsol
|
|9.3
|29,600
|3,110
|
|
|-
|Késhgwo-Lazoen'guel
|
|10.4
|24,400
|2,350
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō 9 - Wakéyoel máre Man
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in [km²]
!population
!pop. density [inh./km²]
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
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|
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|}
</div>
 
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<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-expanded hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!class="unsortable"| Number of Dengshō
!area
!population
!pop. density
!Notes
!Rel. ID
|-
|I
|x.x km²
|xxx,xxx
|xx,xxx inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|II
|x.x km²
|xxx,xxx
|xx,xxx inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|III
|x.x km²
|xxx,xxx
|xx,xxx inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|IV
|x.x km²
|xxx,xxx
|xx,xxx inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|V
|42.1 km²
|195,000
|4,600 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/328880 328880]
|-
|VI
|29.3 km²
|132,800
|4,500 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/304946 304946]
|-
|VII
|43.2 km²
|161,300
|3,700 inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/324504 324504]
|-
|VIII
|x.x km²
|xxx,xxx
|xx,xxx inh./km²
|
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō I
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Chintokkyaen-Dyong
|New Town East
|2.9 km²
|65,000
|22,400 inh./km²
|
|6.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/324877 324877]
|-
|Chintokkyaen-Limbē
|Newtown West
|3.0 km²
|78,000
|26,000 inh./km²
|
|7.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/324876 324876]
|-
|Gwosul
|Slope Town
|0.5 km²
|1,600
|3,200 inh./km²
|
|8.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/324875 324875]
|-
|Takkyaen
|Lower Town
|0.6 km²
|4,800
|8,000 inh./km²
|
|8.7
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/324874 324874]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō II
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Dyong Deldyossul
|
|4.2 km²
|35,300
|8,400 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/335910 335910]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Lawa Rekkidoeng de
|
|7.6 km²
|63,100
|8,300 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/335911 335911]
|-
|Limbē Deldyossul
|
|3.8 km²
|20,500
|5,400 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/336608 336608]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō III
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō IV
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|Name
|
|0.0 km²
|0,000
|0,000 inh./km²
|
|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
|-
|}
</div>
 
Pangs in Dengshō V
<div style="clear:both" class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed hintergrundfarbe1">
{| class="sortable wikitable"
|-
!Name of Pang
!class="unsortable"| English translation
!area in km²
!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
|-
|Chin Gasshō-dan
|New Choir
|13.6 km²
|19,700
|1,400 inh./km²
|
|5.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/326308 326308]
|-
|Fōgelsang
|
|3.7 km²
|15,000
|4,100 inh./km²
|
|5.3
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/328876 328876]
|-
|Hipyang
|
|6.7 km²
|34,900
|5,200 inh./km²
|
|6.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/299580 299580]
|-
|Jugae'eru
|
|3.0 km²
|8,000
|2,700 inh./km²
|
|7.1
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/299566 299566]
|-
|Kū Gasshō-dan
|Old Choir
|7.1 km²
|17,400
|2,500 inh./km²
|
|5.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/328879 328879]
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|Kwēzel
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|6.4 km²
|87,700
|13,700 inh./km²
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|6.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/298074 298074]
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|Shunloé Atarakkusī
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|1.6 km²
|12,300
|7,700 inh./km²
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|3.5
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/295748 295748]
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!pop. density
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!Rel. ID
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|12.8 km²
|37,300
|2,900 inh./km²
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|8.2
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|Magíli
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|9.6 km²
|54,200
|5,600 inh./km²
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|6.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/304259 304259]
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|Újifoēzan
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|4.1 km²
|34,300
|8,400 inh./km²
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|8.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/299564 299564]
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|Zaershukya
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|2.8 km²
|7,000
|2,500 inh./km²
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|5.2
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/304258 304258]
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!class="unsortable"| English translation
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!population
!pop. density
!class="unsortable"| Notes
!GMNHI
!Rel. ID
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|Dóssul
|
|2.1 km²
|25,200
|12,000 inh./km²
|
|2.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/312599 312599]
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|Ekí Baimsol
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|3.1 km²
|4,900
|1,600 inh./km²
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|5.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/315205 315205]
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|Indásuel
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|2.1 km²
|900
|400 inh./km²
|
|3.6
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/314319 314319]
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|Madorokeze
|Window Factory
|7.4 km²
|76,700
|10,400 inh./km²
|
|3.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/324502 324502]
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|Ryóng'yeda
|Honour Field
|2.7 km²
|51,000
|18,900 inh./km²
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|4.9
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/312598 312598]
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|Shukyainda
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|25.8 km²
|2,600
|100 inh./km²
|
|3.8
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/314318 314318]
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|}
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|0,000
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|0,000
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|0.0
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|0,000
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|0.0
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|0,000
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|0.0
|[http://opengeofiction.net/relation/x x]
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==GMNHI==
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| [[File:Simmering, Neubaugebiet Mautner-Markhof-Gründe 02.JPG|200px]]
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| 1.0
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| [[File:Montreuil 2.jpg|200px]]
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| 0.0
| Derelict ghettos with inhabitants lacking self-generated income, basics skills such as reading and writing and any type of social capital. Barely applicable to regular settlements in the developed world.
| |[[File:Rohingya displaced Muslims 06.jpg|200px]]
| [[File:Aleppo old town 9865.jpg|200px]]
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Revision as of 21:14, 2 December 2022

Forums → Global and regional issues → Global and regional issues/10th Anniversary Mapoff - Khaiwoon


Hello OGF!

Recent discussion on the discord has led to the conclusion that, as a way to celebrate OGF's 10th Anniversary, a mapoff should be held in OGF's most well-renowned collaborative country, Khaiwoon.

Right now, this forum thread is for planning and discussion. Khaiwoon is not currently open for mapping.

Things that need to happen before the mapoff (which is not a competition) begins are as follows:

Khaiwoon currently, in its untouched state, should be preserved, most likely in Arhet.

The structure for how space will be divided needs to be established. There are two possibilities that I see here:

a) Khaiwoon is divided into neighborhoods. Each mapper can claim a neighborhood, and works only on that area (or on other areas if invited to by other mappers).

b) Mappers post where they will be working, and talk on this forum thread about their plans, collaborating more organically.

There are pros and cons to both A and B. A is obviously more organized and will result in less conflict, but risks having Khaiwoon look disjointed, like multiple different areas all mapped differently with less cohesion and overall planning. B will inevitably result in edit conflicts, but with good collaboration could produce a very nice blending of many user's styles that would be unique and in the spirit of the collab as a showcase for OGF. Perhaps a blending of A and B, where users work mainly in one area but are free to work elsewhere if they work things out with other users who are working in the same space? Please feel free to suggest other ideas!

Guidelines for the collab must be established. Here's a starting point based on discussions:

a) The "feel/style" of neighborhoods should be preserved, with the current mapping as a base. The goal is to continue developing it, not to completely re-do everything.

b)As there are varying levels of quality in the country, opinions should be gathered on a case-by-case basis about what can be mostly deleted, what should only be further detailed with little to no deletion, and what should not be touched.

c) The old town (what's within the motorway u at the center) and diplomatic quarter should not be touched for now.

d) Country-wide issues that require changes (possibly trains, public transit) should be discussed as a group before changes are made.

e) All the new stuff must continue to obey isleno's excellent topo map.

Some overall things need changing - here's some stuff people have brought up:

a) The farms should be slimmed down a little and turned into mainly plantations and greenhouses, with less (but not no) pastures and farm fields.

b) The eastern islands should be rethought.

c) The language needs some more thought.

d) Trains seem to need a re-work.

Please provide thoughts below about all of this.

--Lithium-Ion (talk) 22:53, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Lithium-Ion


I feel like Central Khaiwoon—or even the entire western portion of the large island—should be mapped by people working together, while the peripheral areas (eg. Batjun) and the rest of the islands (eg. Rockburn Island) can be mapped individually. So yes, a mix of A and B would be the best way to operate this collab. --IiEarth (talk) 23:17, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I second to what iiEarth has proposed, although I would like to propose an amendment: based on what has been discussed on possibly having a mix between A and B, I feel like we can have the peripheral neighborhoods be "coordinated" by users who claim them, and said users would discuss and collaborate with nearby mappers accordingly. Personally, having mappers map only within their respective neighborhoods with seldom collaboration could lead to discontinuity in the mapping styles, names, etc. To summarize, I second iiEarth's proposal with the amendment of having mappers coordinate, but not "own" neighborhoods. --Geoc3ladus (talk) 00:18, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I also think that a kind of mixed way between A and B can work. I am especially interested in the point d), helping in reworking the railway system. --Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 01:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm glad that there's general consensus on this topic so far - I personally agree with Geoc3ladus's proposal. --Lithium-Ion (talk) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

A hybrid between A and B can work. Especially designating the more crucial national infrastructure of the country. Like the harbour, universities (University of Khaiwoon), the race course for the Khaiwoon Grand Prix, military bases (navy, air force), a national sporting centre to host regional games, waterworks facilities (desalination plants and reservoirs), electricity (power plants, windmills, solar farms), petrochemical hubs etc etc.

While I also wish to rework the rail infrastructure in the country, priority should be detailing the various areas of Khaiwoon. I would like to look at Khaiwoon more organically and see how the city could have expanded. This will identify which areas are "older" and "newer", which will affect how each neighbourhood would look like and in turn how the metro is developed (the first lines will serve the major areas first). I also note that Khaiwoon is built on various islands merged together. We might need to identify the older historical islands, which are perhaps the basis for various regional hubs.

For reference on the language, here is the script.--Zhenkang (talk) 07:26, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Further adding on: we can split the Khaiwoon project into multiple "centres" which can be further divided into neighbourhoods. Each "zone" will have a theme (more residential? more industrial? more historical? more cultural?).--Zhenkang (talk) 07:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Reclaimed land in yellow.
There are some images on the wiki showing the reclaimed land - Khaiwoon-terrain-map.jpg and Khaiwoon-1868-map.jpg are basically the original vision for Khaiwoon's "land history" as far as I can tell. ---Lithium-Ion (talk) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I feel like there needs to be a little bit more clarity on the mapping style of Khaiwoon and it's irl inspiration. I hear that Singapore is the main inspiration, with a bit of Hong Kong as well, but neither of those cities use grids anywhere near as much as Khaiwoon. Is it planned to remove a lot of the grids, just keeping the main roads, or keep the grids and diverge further from Singapore? Right now, the mapping looks are bit more like Xiamen (www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/24.4921/118.1312). Gubble (talk) 12:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I think that the grid style and alignments should be kept - it looks good and makes sense to me, and uniqueness is part of what makes Khaiwoon feel like more than just an OGF:Singapore. --Lithium-Ion (talk) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm just going to formally state for the record since I saw it come up in discussions about this elsewhere- in terms of retaining uniqueness, I believe retaining the original language of Khaiwoon is a must. isleño left a very detailed well-crafted conlang and even information on how words are structured, common syllables, etc. It seems integral and bare minimum to retain if this collab is intended to be based on his original vision. --Ernestpkirby (talk) 21:14, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure I like the idea of turning Khaiwoon into a collab. If you want to build OGF:Singapore, you can put it somewhere else - nearby, or far away (maybe closer to OGF:EastAsia...). Based on other collabs (and the fact that we have far more collabs already than we have interested participants), I'm not sure that Khaiwoon would be improved by becoming a collab. Bear in mind, too - I am still in touch with isleño, and he has not ruled out returning to OGF.--Luciano (talk) 14:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. There's no shortage of vacant mapping (and inactive collabs) available in the OGF world. No point in redoing what's already mapped when we have so much new real estate we could leverage into this kind of megaproject instead. --TheMayor (talk) 14:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
The goal isn't to turn Khaiwoon into a collab again - I don't think anyone wants to add another permanent collab to OGF at the moment, as we're rather full (as you've pointed out). Rather, the hope is to celebrate OGF by briefly opening Khaiwoon to continue to develop it for about a month, continuing the vision of Khaiwoon. I think there's a lot of interest in participating in improving and continuing to build Khaiwoon, and I hope that it would be a success. Nevertheless, you two both make good points, and ultimately it is in the hands of the regional admin/the admin team as a whole. --Lithium-Ion (talk) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Okay, that's clear. I'd then focus on additions to existing mapping, not improvements or alterations: ie add building, upgrade existing rail/subway etc, get land use tagging in line with osm standards, etc.--Luciano (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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