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| capital = Fayaan City
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| intro = '''Fayaan''', officially the '''Union of the Fayaan Colonies''' (Lentian: ''Unie van de Kolonies Onder Fayaan'', Castellanese: ''Unión de las Colonias de Fayaan'') is a federation in the northeastern [[Archanta]]. Located on the northern part of the Muinon Peninsula, it shares a land border to [[Kuehong]] at the south. Fayaan is governed by a president elected by the parliament (''Staten Generaal''). The different member states still hold much legislative power, though they do not have the right to secession.


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Fayaan is one of the most well-developed countries in the region. Its economy is centred on international trade, with key exporting sectors being high tech and military tech industries, agro-pharmaceutical, agriculture and engineering. Fayaan draws a fair number of tourists due to its national parks and nature reserves, colonial architecture, Bai temples and excellent beaches.  
I have a bad habit of answering questions on OGFC (the OGF discord server) about OGF - both technical questions and questions about my own mapping or lore. I think that's a bad habit because I want to acknowledge that OGFC is NOT OGF. There are lots of users who don't use discord. Plus, discord doesn't provide much of a searchable "record" of old questions or comments.
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==Etymology==
The name Fayaan is derived from the Fayaan settler family, who settled in Noordkaap region during the 16th century. Originally the country was named the "Confederate Union of North Munion" but the name Fayaan was chosen in 1806 to avoid international tensions on the use of the name ''Munion''.


To counter this tendency of mine, I decided to create this "AMA" page. AMA means "Ask Me Anything." Post a question here, I will answer. I like trying to answer technical questions, especially - it helps me better understand our systems and often I learn things in trying to answer them. Sometimes, I might not answer very fast, if I'm busy. And some questions might be inappropriate (e.g. "What is your opinion on real world issue X?" - this is supposed to be about OGF, not my whole life).
[[Category:Fayaan]]
==History==
{{Infobox history
| name = Fayaan


This is an experiment. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won't. Meanwhile, happy mapping. - "Luciano"
| era_A = Colonisation Period
| era_A_dates = 1500-1789
| event_A1 = Early colonisation
| dates_A1 = 1500-1610
| event_A2 = Golden Age
| dates_A2 = 1610-1700
| event_A3 = Ingerish Occupation
| dates_A3 = 1690-1789
| era_B = Independence to Military Rule
| era_B_dates = 1755-1801
| event_B1 = Independence Wars
| dates_B1 = 1755-1789
| event_B2 = Independence
| dates_B2 = 1801
| event_B3 = First Republic
| dates_B3 = 1801-1938
| event_B4 = Civil War
| dates_B4 = 1931-1938
| event_B5 = Military Rule
| dates_B5 = 1938-1968
| era_C = Third Republic
| era_C_dates = 1968-
| event_C1 = Golden Decade
| dates_C1 = 1974-1986
| event_C2 = Economic Crisis
| dates_C2 = 1986-1994
| event_C3 = Tech Age
| dates_C3 = 1994-
}}
===Pre-Colonial Period===
Little is known about the period before Ulethan colonisation. Fayaan was inhabited by Ouisx, Corxich and Huny tribes. Agriculture was probably introduced around 500 BCE? but even in 1500 CE many tribes still lived a hunther-gatherers. The Bai founded several coastal cities and trading posts on the west coast between 1000 and 1500 CE. In southern Fayaan several Kue villages existed.


NOTE: Please "attribute" your question as below, to your username, and show the date asked (use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> in the parentheses after the question). Thanks!
===Colonial Period 1500-1755===
====Early Lentian colonization 1500-1610====
The Lentian explorer Erik Meulenaers with his vessel 'Eenhoorn' is the first known Ulethan visitor of the Fayaan western coast in 1473. Lentian merchantes gained interest in Fayaan as a trading centre for exotic fruits and spices. A private trading company led by the Asselmans and Goedhuys families founded the city of Noordkaap in 1489 (according to oral traditions) or 1492 (according to inscriptions in the Noordkaap Church). Over the next decades, Lentian merchants united in a trading company called ''Koloniale Kompagnie van Archanta Minor (KKAM)'' which founded trading centres along the Fayaan western coast. The KKAM encouraged the settlement of both Castellan and Lentian farmers and craftsman, taking also advantage of religious tensions in Uletha.  


====Golden Age of Colonialism 1610-1690====
By the early 1600s, the KKAM structured their Archanta Minor colonies into different governates, each centred around a major trading post: Noordkaap (Noordkaap and Witzandmond), Citroenkust (Zonnevliet), Grootmui, Sint Sebastiaanshaven, Hallond, Santa Cruz, Hoopsbaai, Villa Ronda, Huysburg, Klaarmeer, Yldago, St Baafsland, Triumfo and Vuysburg. Large plantations were erected where tropical fruits and spices were grown. Also, logging become was important, resulting in an increasing shipyard industry that provided Lentian trading companies with ships. The ports towns developped as trading centres between Bai and Uletha.


During the colonial period, society developed in a very strict hierarchical way. Colonies were governed by a governor who was controlled by merchant guilds and agricultural estate owners. Craftsmen and agriculture labourers remained poor and had no political power. In 1630 the Noordkaap Governate was the first to establish an elected parliament ''Staten Generaal'', but only major taxpayers had voting rights. Soon followed the other governates.


'''question)''' What is the origin of the pseudonym "Luciano"? ''(asked by Luciano 2021-12-09)''
====Ingerish Period 1690-1765====
The wealth of Fayaan attracted the attention of Ingerland. Social unrest increased in the late 1680s. The KKAM had few military forces and had difficulties suppressing revolts in Santa Cruz, Triumfo and Hoopsbaai. Ingerland seized the opportunity and send a fleet to the Hoopsbaai/Santa Cruz area in 1680, under the pretext of defending Ingerish trade routes against piracy. With the KKAM structure weakened by internal struggles and revolts, they were unable to give a proper response. The governates if Santa Cruz and Huysburg raised an own fleet, which was destroyed during the ''sea battle of la Selva (July 4th 1690)''. Dyuring the following months Ingerish troops occupied easily the different Fayaan governates, except for Noordkaap. In the same period, the Vuysburg was lost to Kue forces.


'''answer)''' It's not my real name. I have used it as a nickname since my early teenage years, in certain contexts. When I lived in Mexico, I would sometimes give "Luciano" as my name when I met people, because my real name is not a typical Spanish-language name and is hard to "explain" to people so they get it right - I'd inevitably have to spell it out and explain what kind of name it was.
Formally the Fayaan region became the ''Ingerish Protectorate of Northern Archanta''. In 1692 New-Willhead was founded as the new governate capital on the southern shores of the Hoopsbaai - near the location of the contemporary parliament in Fayaan City. From New-Willhead the protectorate was governed with an iron hand. Ingerish was introduced as the official administrative and trade language, even though few people spoke Ingerish. The Northern Archanta economy was reshaped to produce and export agricultural goods and mining products. Merchants lost much of their political power, though New-Willhead and Huysburg remained important trading centres.


=== Liberation movement and unification (1755-1801/1861) ===
Under the initiative of Noordkaap, a liberation movement started around 1755. The merchant company of the Noordkaap colony, KKAM, had already taken advantage of the increasing impoverishment in the other colonies to acquire much land and support plantation owners. From this position, they had an increasing social and political voice and rallied for independence from Ingerland. This independence movement started in the Dutch-speaking colonies. The KKAM supported the organization of the militia, who organized local rebelions from 1755 on ('''Independence War 1755-1765'''). These rebellions started in Citroenkust, but by 1765 the Ingerish had lost control on a large part of the Dutch Speaking territories. The treaty of Huysburg (1765) gave independence to the Dutch colonies, which became independent states. In practice, they remained under influence of the Noordkaap colony.


 
While the Ingerish hoped they could remain in charge of the remaining (Castillan) colonies, also here a rebellion broke out in 1766 ('''Santa Cruz War (1766-1789)'''). resulting in an Ingerish retreat in 1789. Fayaan (and especially the parts which became only independent in 1789) was left behind impoverished and in chaos. Formally Fayaan then existed out of several separate states, with each their own government. Most of these states were however unable to organize a proper government. The Noordkaap colony could quickly increase its political influence in the other colonies, and actively pushed to the formation of a confederate state.
'''question)''' Why isn't anyone asking anything? ''(asked by [[User:Luciano|Luciano]] ([[User talk:Luciano|talk]]) 16:30, 10 December 2021 (UTC))''
 
'''answer)''' ...
 
 
 
'''question)''' We have spoken before about early mapping in Harda and the origin of that name, what other information about Antarephia in general can you share? ''(asked by [[User:Ruadh|Ruadh]] ([[User talk:Ruadh|talk]]) 20:46, 10 December 2021 (UTC))''
 
'''answer)''' Actually I'm not sure I have much interesting to say. When I was most active in Antarephia, when I was first creating Mahhal and Tárrases, the Harda Archipelago was quite ''separate'' from the rest of the continent. The thinking was that it had its own ecological and cultural characteristics. I remember a lot of debates about the climate of the archipelago, and what was realistic. Those debates left me discouraged and the consequence was, first, I moved Tárrases to the northernmost tip of Mahhal (it had been located much farther southeast down the archipelago), then, second, I decided to completely abandon the Mahhal project and retain Tárrases mostly as a kind of example of detailed mapping, but perhaps not completely "canon" within the OGF world. [[User:Luciano|Luciano]] ([[User talk:Luciano|talk]]) 21:08, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 
 
 
'''question)''' So when the server switched over, the Scale Helper came with it and became more directly part of the wiki ecosystem which was good. However, there was one major change in its functionality that I was hoping to see change back- the original Scale Helper had options to compare OGF to OGF and OSM to OSM, effectively having all layer options in both windows. I used to use that functionality a lot to get a feeling for whether my mapping was the same scale between cities, to compare store sizes to make sure I had the right idea for layout, etc, and just to get a feeling for how the map projection & latitude affected the scale on the map. Having the OGF to OSM comparison is really helpful, but it's been a little bit harder to get a feeling for scale ''within'' OGF with this feature missing. Is there any chance that functionality will be restored at some point? ''(asked by --[[User:Ernestpkirby|Ernestpkirby]] ([[User talk:Ernestpkirby|talk]]) 03:19, 13 December 2021 (UTC))''
 
'''answer)''' This is a great question! Although also, basically, it's a request for a software change. Not that there's anything wrong with that. In fact, you're asking the wrong person. wangi was the person who migrated the scale helper. But I will forward your question to him - it's possible it's not a difficult change to make. [[User:Luciano|Luciano]] ([[User talk:Luciano|talk]]) 14:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 
: I cannot recall the exact reason I removed it, but there was one. I've added a note to look at this again to my to-do list. However it's not near the top. Not sure why you'd not just use the distance shown in the editor for this. /[[User:Wangi|wangi]] ([[User talk:Wangi|talk]]) 15:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 
::On the "why not just use the distance shown" question: I can use the measurements to compare specific objects, though that also requires having both the area you're working on and the area you're comparing to open in JOSM. But most of the time when I'm mapping, unless it really is a specific measurement like length of a tram platform or something, I honestly need a visual comparison at the same scale to actually understand the numbers I'm seeing in context or it's sort of meaningless/unhelpful. Really that's why I use the scale helper at all, for the OSM to OGF comparisons as well. That said, I understand if there's a technical reason why this can't be done and it's not a rush, I understand there are bigger priorities. --[[User:Ernestpkirby|Ernestpkirby]] ([[User talk:Ernestpkirby|talk]]) 01:31, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 
 
'''question)''' I want to move around 55k nodes at one go, what's the best way to do that and reduce impact on the server/limit disruption to the site? I'm thinking JOSM upload settings, time of day to make the move, what sort of larger edits can the system handle? etc ''(asked by [[User:Ruadh|Ruadh]] ([[User talk:Ruadh|talk]]) 13:42, 18 December 2021 (UTC))''
 
'''answer)'''
 
'''question)''' ...? ''(asked by ~ ~ ~ ~)''
 
'''answer)'''

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Flag of Fayaan Union of the Fayaan Colonies

Capital: Fayaan City

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Fayaan, officially the Union of the Fayaan Colonies (Lentian: Unie van de Kolonies Onder Fayaan, Castellanese: Unión de las Colonias de Fayaan) is a federation in the northeastern Archanta. Located on the northern part of the Muinon Peninsula, it shares a land border to Kuehong at the south. Fayaan is governed by a president elected by the parliament (Staten Generaal). The different member states still hold much legislative power, though they do not have the right to secession.

Fayaan is one of the most well-developed countries in the region. Its economy is centred on international trade, with key exporting sectors being high tech and military tech industries, agro-pharmaceutical, agriculture and engineering. Fayaan draws a fair number of tourists due to its national parks and nature reserves, colonial architecture, Bai temples and excellent beaches.

Etymology

The name Fayaan is derived from the Fayaan settler family, who settled in Noordkaap region during the 16th century. Originally the country was named the "Confederate Union of North Munion" but the name Fayaan was chosen in 1806 to avoid international tensions on the use of the name Munion.

History

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History of Fayaan
Colonisation Period1500-1789
• Early colonisation1500-1610
• Golden Age1610-1700
• Ingerish Occupation1690-1789
Independence to Military Rule1755-1801
• Independence Wars1755-1789
• Independence1801
• First Republic1801-1938
• Civil War1931-1938
Third Republic1968-
• Golden Decade1974-1986
• Economic Crisis1986-1994
• Tech Age1994-

Pre-Colonial Period

Little is known about the period before Ulethan colonisation. Fayaan was inhabited by Ouisx, Corxich and Huny tribes. Agriculture was probably introduced around 500 BCE? but even in 1500 CE many tribes still lived a hunther-gatherers. The Bai founded several coastal cities and trading posts on the west coast between 1000 and 1500 CE. In southern Fayaan several Kue villages existed.

Colonial Period 1500-1755

Early Lentian colonization 1500-1610

The Lentian explorer Erik Meulenaers with his vessel 'Eenhoorn' is the first known Ulethan visitor of the Fayaan western coast in 1473. Lentian merchantes gained interest in Fayaan as a trading centre for exotic fruits and spices. A private trading company led by the Asselmans and Goedhuys families founded the city of Noordkaap in 1489 (according to oral traditions) or 1492 (according to inscriptions in the Noordkaap Church). Over the next decades, Lentian merchants united in a trading company called Koloniale Kompagnie van Archanta Minor (KKAM) which founded trading centres along the Fayaan western coast. The KKAM encouraged the settlement of both Castellan and Lentian farmers and craftsman, taking also advantage of religious tensions in Uletha.

Golden Age of Colonialism 1610-1690

By the early 1600s, the KKAM structured their Archanta Minor colonies into different governates, each centred around a major trading post: Noordkaap (Noordkaap and Witzandmond), Citroenkust (Zonnevliet), Grootmui, Sint Sebastiaanshaven, Hallond, Santa Cruz, Hoopsbaai, Villa Ronda, Huysburg, Klaarmeer, Yldago, St Baafsland, Triumfo and Vuysburg. Large plantations were erected where tropical fruits and spices were grown. Also, logging become was important, resulting in an increasing shipyard industry that provided Lentian trading companies with ships. The ports towns developped as trading centres between Bai and Uletha.

During the colonial period, society developed in a very strict hierarchical way. Colonies were governed by a governor who was controlled by merchant guilds and agricultural estate owners. Craftsmen and agriculture labourers remained poor and had no political power. In 1630 the Noordkaap Governate was the first to establish an elected parliament Staten Generaal, but only major taxpayers had voting rights. Soon followed the other governates.

Ingerish Period 1690-1765

The wealth of Fayaan attracted the attention of Ingerland. Social unrest increased in the late 1680s. The KKAM had few military forces and had difficulties suppressing revolts in Santa Cruz, Triumfo and Hoopsbaai. Ingerland seized the opportunity and send a fleet to the Hoopsbaai/Santa Cruz area in 1680, under the pretext of defending Ingerish trade routes against piracy. With the KKAM structure weakened by internal struggles and revolts, they were unable to give a proper response. The governates if Santa Cruz and Huysburg raised an own fleet, which was destroyed during the sea battle of la Selva (July 4th 1690). Dyuring the following months Ingerish troops occupied easily the different Fayaan governates, except for Noordkaap. In the same period, the Vuysburg was lost to Kue forces.

Formally the Fayaan region became the Ingerish Protectorate of Northern Archanta. In 1692 New-Willhead was founded as the new governate capital on the southern shores of the Hoopsbaai - near the location of the contemporary parliament in Fayaan City. From New-Willhead the protectorate was governed with an iron hand. Ingerish was introduced as the official administrative and trade language, even though few people spoke Ingerish. The Northern Archanta economy was reshaped to produce and export agricultural goods and mining products. Merchants lost much of their political power, though New-Willhead and Huysburg remained important trading centres.

Liberation movement and unification (1755-1801/1861)

Under the initiative of Noordkaap, a liberation movement started around 1755. The merchant company of the Noordkaap colony, KKAM, had already taken advantage of the increasing impoverishment in the other colonies to acquire much land and support plantation owners. From this position, they had an increasing social and political voice and rallied for independence from Ingerland. This independence movement started in the Dutch-speaking colonies. The KKAM supported the organization of the militia, who organized local rebelions from 1755 on (Independence War 1755-1765). These rebellions started in Citroenkust, but by 1765 the Ingerish had lost control on a large part of the Dutch Speaking territories. The treaty of Huysburg (1765) gave independence to the Dutch colonies, which became independent states. In practice, they remained under influence of the Noordkaap colony.

While the Ingerish hoped they could remain in charge of the remaining (Castillan) colonies, also here a rebellion broke out in 1766 (Santa Cruz War (1766-1789)). resulting in an Ingerish retreat in 1789. Fayaan (and especially the parts which became only independent in 1789) was left behind impoverished and in chaos. Formally Fayaan then existed out of several separate states, with each their own government. Most of these states were however unable to organize a proper government. The Noordkaap colony could quickly increase its political influence in the other colonies, and actively pushed to the formation of a confederate state.