Talk:OGF:Expo 2020

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Expo 2020 is just a year away! If you are interested in submitting a bid for one of your cities to host the Expo, please add your name below.

To give everyone time to think it over and start doing some mapping to prep for a public vote (put your best foot forward!) a proposed schedule is below. Feel free to comment below with suggestions, additions, modifications, etc. This is meant to start a conversation; we can finalize the schedule at the start of April and "officially" start the bidding process.

Bid Schedule [Proposed]

  • May 1, 2019: Final deadline for cities notify of intention to bid
  • July 5, 2019: Final bids must be published to the wiki
  • July 6 - July 19, 2019: Two-week public voting period
  • July 20 - July 26, 2019: One-week overflow voting between top two candidates if no city gains more than 50% of the initial public vote
  • July 27, 2019: Expo 2020 Host City officially announced

Cities Bidding to Host Expo 2020

City Country Mapper
Koescad Flag of Auronia.png Auronia JoJoBa
Lake City Flag of the FSA.svg Federal States TheMayor
Teşhir Kazari flag.png Al-Kaza Louis walker


General discussion, suggested changes to the bid schedule, etc... It all goes here! (Don't forget to sign)

So, what are the updates on this thing? JoJoBa (talk) 15:53, 5 November 2019 (CET)

What do you think? I guess abandoned as usual. Maybe the original author already forgot about it. Which would be no wonder given this minimum amount of information available. If anyone is expectected to contribute, we should at least know what the point is: Why a world fair? How does one look like? What are the criteria? If I would add my city to the list, what am I supposed to do then? And why are people putting their cities into the list without knowing what to sign up for anyway? --Toadwart (talk) 18:19, 5 November 2019 (CET)
Firstly - calm down. Secondly, a World Fair is...a World Fair. I think you already know what an Expo is, don't you? If this was a fairly new thing, it sure would need all those information you've put, but it's not. So I think it's safe to say, that any exposition only needs to know it's host and mapping style. About the abandonment, I think he just forgot it, like a million things every day (Quoted Micheal de Santa). If it was a more ambitious organizer, this wouldn't been forgotten. JoJoBa (talk) 19:00, 5 November 2019 (CET)
I am always calm. Just sometimes the same patterns show up over and over again. Actually I would like to see these things succeed. I would like to see Would Cups and Racing Seasons to succeed. But I don't know what a World fair is here. I was at one in Hannover nearly two decades ago. It was nice. But most of the nice things were in buildings which would simply map as a box. So a World Fair would translate into 400 boxes in OGF. That's boring, so people try to make elaborate things like small parks and some 3D effects or whatever. Once you have done that for your country once or twice, you wont do it a third time. So back to rectangular boxes then. Also, how many users do participate? You would end up with 20 elaborate things and 380 boxes. So, the question is: What is a world fair in OGF and what collaboration is involved? If you just want to map one alone, simply do it. We can promote it to "official" later on. There are a number of years left to assign it to. --Toadwart (talk) 19:33, 5 November 2019 (CET)
Seems like plenty of other mappers have already figured out what World's Fairs are, and it does make sense to figure out some process of declaring "official" world's fairs before we run out of years, especially for more contemporary events. -TheMayor (talk) 21:44, 5 November 2019 (CET)
Why does it always seem like OGF users are in a contest to see who can be as abrasive as possible when having what should be straightforward conversations? There is zero mystery about why collaborative stuff like this doesn't work: most users are curt and disrespectful, and those of us who do occasionally try to do something community-oriented get exhausted with it and give up. No one engaged in the conversation about this, so it didn't happen. Shocker. Keep your thoughts on my level of "ambition" to yourself. --Louis walker (talk) 21:40, 5 November 2019 (CET)
It wasn't meant as abrasive but more like a disappointed "Oh no, another one that failed." Of course I have seen the list, but we find 25 entries in there, of which 11 don't have a map link. From those who have a link half of them simply don't exist and a handful are actually nice. So around a dozen have found out what a world fair is, or let's say they decided what it is from their perspective. Some have it a collaborative showcase event. Some have it as a historical background for today's shape of a part of their city. And therefore I asked the questions, some of which have not been answered yet. Please accept a bit of scrutiny for community projects. I have not said I am against something particular, but we need some clarification. --Toadwart (talk) 02:44, 6 November 2019 (CET)
I agree with you Louis. I feel the exact same way sometimes. Projects get shot down and ridiculed or when you ask people to participate nobody does; then when the project makes no progress the entire community lambastes you for it. Aspirations are a good thing and the lack of community willing to participate in projects is what prohibits this type of event, NOT the organizer. --Zytik (talk) 14:01, 6 November 2019 (CET)