Talk:OGF:Federal States/Railways

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gauge 1435

really you will tag all rails with 1435 mm? All rails ARE 1435 mm, if no other information is tagged --Histor (talk) 23:38, 27 July 2019 (CEST)

It depends on, usally it is tagged, but at the moment this tag does not seem to be that relevant. It can be added later on without much effort.--Mstr (talk) 01:45, 28 July 2019 (CEST)

platform lenght

< 300 m for some platforms - I ask myself, what trains there stop. If one wagon ist - let us say - 25 m, then Washington has place for only 9 (and one for the locomotive). What is with Elvis Mystery Train: "Train I ride, 16 coaches long...". Til now I construct platforms for long distance railways with 400 m (15 coaches and loco') --Histor (talk) 15:12, 28 July 2019 (CEST)

I know some Amtrak trains with 5-7 coaches or less, the Acela Express has 200 m, so short platforms seem to be usual.--Mstr (talk) 15:21, 28 July 2019 (CEST)
Less-busy stations can have shorter platforms because not all coaches open at each station. If Amtrak is our model, conductors manually open and close the train doors at each stop, and they usually have announcements on approach to the station regarding which coaches will be opening. -TheMayor (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2019 (CEST)
On my short ride from Newark Airport to New York Penn' station with New Jersey Link last year the conductor did with my 9 $ ticket this and that and I ask me, for what and why. Indeed, he was a friendly man, but the efficience? So for mapping we can learn, that at smaller stations the platforms are short. Can the a station like this be realistic? [1] --Histor (talk) 18:18, 28 July 2019 (CEST)

fright train waiting tracks

Can it be helpful to discuss about this? In Germany since 1900 this tracks are long 700 m. What with the FSA? Do we need it there, that slow freight trains can wait for faster passenger trains? Or shall the passanger train run after the freight train in the same slow way? I fear, it is so. --Histor (talk) 15:17, 28 July 2019 (CEST)

We have to talk about the max. freigth train length, but freight trains NEVER wait for passenger trains since usually they have priority (and there are no passenger trains).--Mstr (talk) 15:20, 28 July 2019 (CEST)
The best-case (longest) siding on a single-track main line would probably be something like this, about 3 km. This siding was recently upgraded in Illinois for Amtrak’s increase to 110mph service on the Chicago-St. Louis line, which is a busy freight line with five round-trip daily passenger trips. -TheMayor (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2019 (CEST)
Single-track mainline. O.k. - what potential given away. One thing is positiv: I have not to map long sidings --Histor (talk) 18:02, 28 July 2019 (CEST)

Thank you mstr!

Just wanted to briefly say thank you to mstr for getting this page up and running. -TheMayor (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2019 (CEST)

Class I Railroads

This was a very quick sketch (which is why it's in Paint) but here's one option for six Class I freight railroads in the FSA and a possible network. Names and routes are all up for debate, but I think we should start by limiting the number of Class I railroads to a manageable number (this sample uses six, or seven if there's enough interest in an additional north-south line between the central river and the eastern mountains). -TheMayor (talk) 00:17, 30 July 2019 (CEST) MN-FSA ClassI.png

I'm not totally sure, but I think it would be possible for competing railroad companies to avoid connecting with each other unless they have to. In areas served by two or three companies, I think it would be interesting to see how these areas are mapped.

Finally, I'm interested in seeing how the railroad companies choose their routes within the states. Will companies 'bid' on existing railroad lines and facilities? If a state has some well mapped rail infrastructure, maybe it would attract more companies to want to operate within the state? Just a thought! ---PColumbus73 (talk) 05:14, 19 October 2019 (CEST)

Ports

Should certain ports have a certain coverage area? For instance, the ports within the Stanton-Ann'harbor-Warwick metro area could be the busiest ports on the East Coast and serve a massive portion of the FSA, however, a port at Anne Abbey would serve a smaller region, consisting primarily of neighboring states? ---PColumbus73 (talk) 04:29, 18 October 2019 (CEST)

Ports should be somewhat self-selected based on topography, given that large coastal cities would have needed a safe harbor for ships to begin with. That said, this is OGF, so that’s not really an actual limitation. How far inland each port serves should be based on the port’s infrastructure (highways, railways, etc.) so mappers of the largest ports need to commit to have plenty of landside mapping to function. -TheMayor (talk) 14:28, 18 October 2019 (CEST)

Help & Advisors

Is there anyone who specializes in realistic railways who might be willing and able to give advice to others about designing realistic rail lines? I know I could use assistance in creating realistic railyards. ---PColumbus73 (talk) 04:29, 18 October 2019 (CEST)

I have some experience, but when in doubt, just explore Chicago on OSM for rail yard inspiration: Clearing Yard, Cicero Yard, Global II, and Schiller Park Yard are good freight examples; Western Avenue and 14th Street are good passenger coach yard examples. -TheMayor (talk) 14:28, 18 October 2019 (CEST)

Theres also Eklas to help as well. Check his railway tutorials.--Happy mapping and God blesses you, ZK (talk) 06:30, 19 October 2019 (CEST)