Talk:Slevs

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User:JoJoBa's history of the East-Ulethan Slevs.
User:JoJoBa's distribution of Slevic nations.

I want to know, where do 'Slevs' come from, and how do they look now. I have gathered a few informations, and looks like they originate in Suria. I have studied the East-Ulethan Slevic nations, and this is probably the best history I could think of. Tell me what do you think. Note, that I forgot that Slevs also live in other parts of Uletha, so the names will probably changed to XXXX Egalian Slevs (where XXXX can be changes by the adjectives from the GIF file. JoJoBa (talk) 17:09, 5 August 2019 (CEST)

I also distributed all Slevic nations I could find. If I missed any, or some don't look Slevic, tell me before yelling at me. JoJoBa (talk) 18:14, 5 August 2019 (CEST)
So if I may I repeat my answer here:
I have written this before you wrote in the Slevs discussion. But this is not how the linguistics works. It doesn't follow geographic nor political divisions but the "linguistical distance" - the question is how the languages are similar to each other. According to this asumption I will still oppose the separation of Galicja from other Slevic peoples in the region, because Galician belongs to the same language continuity (and is closely related to Drabantian and Lorantian) so they had to migrate from Suria as well. Small gap beetween Galicja and others isn't a problem. Remember RW example of Slavs divided by Hungarians and Germans. This also solves the problem of existence of Szlonsk because as given in the eponymous article they are descendants of Galicians. Other groups such as the people of Slavonia or Latania certainly don't belong to the same Egalian continuity because the distance is too big while languages are quite close. --Rüstem Paşa Discussion 18:28, 5 August 2019 (CEST)

The "oldest" Slavic country in OGF (dating from September, 2013) is Slavonia. If Andy's Ingerland is the origin of Ingerish-speaking peoples, then wouldn't applying the same logic require Slavonia to be the origin of Slavic peoples? I don't actually believe either of these should hold true, but the "first comers" principle is quite strong in OGF. And if Andy's precedence isn't accepted, then we're going to have inverisimilitudinous "multiple Slavic homelands" just as happened with Dutch homelands a few years back, which still hasn't been resolved as far as I can figure out.--Luciano (talk) 18:29, 5 August 2019 (CEST)

The biggest problem is that on OGF, countries appear where users want them to be. Admins are trying to categorize them and divide their regions into parts of different cultures. Still, the layout of different countries is such, that I makes deciding the history of some groups hard. In this case, you have pockets of such nations here and there, all accross Uletha. Slavonia in the far west, Latania in the far east, etc. While in the real-world, everything is connected because it is the real world. So most ethnic groups, like the Slevs, tend to use migration in the past as the only answer in explaining why is a country thousands of kilometers away from the rest. I agree with you that Latania doesn't belong to the Egalian part, and same for Slavonia in the Glynian part. But further discussion should fix this.
Now, Luciano, that is not how origins work. England is not the origin of English-speaking nations, but it certainly is the one who had spread the English language in those nations. Ingerland has the same case. It is the one who spread the Ingerish language accross the OGF globe. The origin of probably any people group on OGF is debatable, and only an agreement by most of the users on OGF will tell an answer. JoJoBa (talk) 18:42, 5 August 2019 (CEST)
@jojo that is my exact point: the whole relies on good attitude to collaboration. That is not what we see. Users like Andy notoriously refuse to collaborate and we just have to accept their first comer status.--Luciano (talk) 18:55, 5 August 2019 (CEST)
We don't: Slavonia as a Slavic homeland is merely provisional. The local place names, for example, are mostly copied from several real world Slavic countries, slapped together without much care for origin or context. I think it's absolutely reasonable to leave Slavonia out of the discussion as a country going against rules of realism. --Eklas (talk) 19:41, 5 August 2019 (CEST)