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09 April 2017

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The Tourism Bureau of Iola would like to feature the Via Alegatem (Embassies Road). I know that embassies come in all shapes and sizes. Most are small, and a small country like Mauretia is not likely to have a huge number of them. Each one here, however, belongs to an EUOIA member state. We've started to have some tough discussions over there, and the collaboration has been great. On the map, Mauretia gifted a decent facility to each of the EUOIA member. They are clustered together to focus on interaction and collaboration. I love the collaboration, which is one of the main reasons for this post.

Now, religion. Ah, yes; that topic again.
I would like to first thank the users on this site for generally taking a civil and constructive approach to the topic. It's not always easy to do with the diversity of belief and thought among the users. My commendations. I don't want to resurrect the discussion about any other real-world religion here, so let's refrain from going there. Instead, let's get irreverent with one that won't offend most people—still civil, but irreverent.

One of the comments in the most recent discussion of religion was about why we, as users, are not that creative here. So, I want to create an ancient, polytheistic religion for the Mauroi people that is based on OGF. Why not make our mapping universe in-universe? To do this, I want to crowd-source some of the deities and other mythical elements. I welcome users to submit themselves (or variations of themselves) to be the different gods, goddesses, demigods, heroes, villains, mythical creatures, etc.

Here are the reasons behind this project:

  • Giving Mauretia another, unique religion for the map. I can use the generic tag "place_of_worship" to denote this.
  • Historical sites. Christicism had to "replace" something, right? So, where are the ruins, historical places, and few holdouts? If the religion is interesting enough, I might even move the country over to that.
  • Placenames. Towns, rivers, mountains, and other features have long been named after deities and mythical figures. These can be incorporated into the mapping and help give some more realism that is uniquely Mauro.
  • Collaboration. I think it's a different type of collaborative experiment. It's really just that—an experiment.
  • Humor. We all take our mapping here seriously. We should. But, we need to lighten up every now and then. Something like this can be funny, where we let our guard down and just be creative.
  • Modeling. Perhaps someone else will be inspired by the ancient Mauro pantheon and use it as a template for other religions. Ancient cultures borrowed all the time, so having some overlap is a sign of realism.
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Why might it be based on users?
First, I think it would be a fun, self-deprecating way to be creative. Next, we are the "creators" of the OGF world. The ancients surely would have seen us as the mysterious hands in the spiritual realms. Third, it gives me a chance to pay respect to you, the users that work hard and make this site fun. There will be ancient shrines, statues, fountains, cities, and the like all named "in your honor." Everything would be limited to what you say below. I'll also keep you appraised of anything related to your named entity if anything needs to be mentioned.

Again, I want to emphasize: I won't use anyone in the official pantheon without their permission. I want to make sure that is clear.

So what am I looking for?
If I may respectfully use the admin team and newbies as a quick demonstration, please consider the following. (This is just as an example and will not go beyond this page without the consent of the various admins.) Five primary gods for the ancient people could be…

  • Tilos and Hišator, who together created the world and ensure its existence; symbols are a winged cat and sphinx
  • Il-Enno, who is the god of the waters and prevents the earth from flooding; represented as a water creature and palm trees
  • Oʒietiwane, the mysterious god of the sky
  • Lusyaniqo, the god of the earth, rocks, and landforms; symbol is a flaming sphere known as an "ardis"
  • Nub, the shapeshifting goddess of chaos, destruction, death, and despair; the ancients believed she lived in Commonia

Does this make sense? If so, in the area below, please give me your input. I need an upper sphere of deities, a middle sphere that handle all the menial tasks, mythical spirits like angels or demons, beasts like leviathans and dragons, ancient heroes and demigods, etc. Tell me what the special powers or domains would be; list any potential symbols, creatures, manifestations, or physical traits. Place your ideas or thoughts below in the comments section. Be as creative as possible! I will do my best to honor what people want and synthesize it into a semi-cohesive "religion" for the ancient Mauroi people.

And that, my fellow mappers, is my bliki post for today. Please feel free to comment below!

Questions, comments, concerns, or general lies?

Please be respectful and courteous. Pantheon slots will be doled out on a first-come, first-served basis.

This is hilarious and very creative! I approve this. Yuanls (talk) 20:50, 9 April 2017 (CEST)

Great, Yuanls. Want to be a deity? Alessa (talk) 20:54, 9 April 2017 (CEST)
Well...I could try. I don't think I'd make a very godly god though. XD Yuanls (talk) 22:49, 9 April 2017 (CEST)
Haha. That's part of the fun! I know I wouldn't. I'd probably be smiting mortals left and right if I had the power; then I'd feel guilty about it all night long. I wouldn't even be good at being evil! Come up with something and see how it works. Alessa (talk) 23:16, 10 April 2017 (CEST)
Yee Anals (do not laugh!) is the God of the average and unremarkable. Basically he sits around and controls the day-to-day functions of the planet, although occasionally he bores people to death with aspects of the ordinary and the everyday, purely for his entertainment. Due to the unremarkable nature of this God, Yee Anals has largely faded into obscurity and is presently only remembered by historians and devout believers. Probably an enemy of Chaos Goddess Nub, but due to limited information on Yee Anals, this is purely hypothetical. Yuanls (talk) 02:33, 11 April 2017 (CEST)
It's hard not to laugh! I like the idea of a deity that starts to be forgotten. Good thinking! Alessa (talk) 14:15, 11 April 2017 (CEST)

I love this idea! To join in on the self-deprecating fun, I also came up with a deistic character.

His name is Héllas and he's the god of winter. He's often depicted alone in a numb standing position wearing a long coat with a hood over his head. He's not the popular one among the gods and neither is he very relevant, outstanding or powerful, which kind of makes him jealous of all the other gods that are able to do amazing things. Worshipping him, you have to start slow and gentle as he's actually terrified of humans, but once you gain his trust he'll love you with his whole heart and do anything for you, i.e. always provide you with the weather you desire as that's all he can do. Make one mistake though, and he'll cut ties with you and bury you under snow.

tl;dr - Héllas is a winter god who's got some issues.

(Does it even snow in Mauretia?) --Eklas (talk) 21:28, 9 April 2017 (CEST)

Awesome, Eklas/Hellas. I love it. Yes, it snows in Mauretia. Winters are not terribly long but can be brutal at times. I think this is great! Alessa (talk) 21:32, 9 April 2017 (CEST)
Glad you like it! I'm going to keep Hellas in mind and come up with a more thorough, detailed description eventually. --Eklas (talk) 21:36, 9 April 2017 (CEST)
Thanks. When I get a few more, I'll put together a page and start working on mapping some things. Alessa (talk) 23:16, 10 April 2017 (CEST)

This is great! I wanna be a part of this! Litvania (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2017 (CEST)

He is gonna be called Horan (or Horán). He is the god of all mountains and cliffs. Ancients believed he lived somewhere in the north of the lonely outcrop that central Uletha is. (Hold on to this, imma come up with something soon.) --Litvania (User talk:Litvania) 07:42, 10 April 2017 (CEST)
Sounds good, Litvania. I'll await more from you. Alessa (talk) 23:16, 10 April 2017 (CEST)

The Mud Boy. Perhaps not a God.. maybe a spirit, a creature, a sprite.. The mud boy is a model child made from clay who, when baked in the hearth of a childless household, will become real flesh and blood. They will become an exemplary son or daughter, bringing wealth and good fortune, so long as they are cherished. The only caveat is that if the mud boys parents, for any reason, for even an instant, regret their decision to create the child then it will immediately revert back into clay. From then on its spirit will stalk the regretful parents, driving them to ruin and an untimely end.

Also if I was to be a God then I would choose to be a God of Retribution and Comeuppance, prayed to by scheming businessmen, scorned lovers and women labouring in child birth. Ruadh (talk) 23:57, 9 April 2017 (CEST)

This is funny, Ruadh. I'll make "mud boy" a sprite of sorts. That's cool. What would you want the name of your retribution god to be? RU- would be the root of a word in Maurit to be something relating to "evil" an NQ- would be normally for revenge, but I'm open to something different. Alessa (talk) 23:16, 10 April 2017 (CEST)
Cool, well being a twin is always popular choice in God circles and gives a quick boost to your numbers. Perhaps supplicants pray to Runq to smite people who deserve it (like a taller, funnier and more successful cousin) and sacrifice to Nqru to ward off being smited for their own wrong doing (for example, when they've been embezzling from company funds since the mid-2000s..) We may need a few invisible vowels to make those names flow :) Ruadh (talk) 15:19, 11 April 2017 (CEST)

The music god Zare Pawa is often depicted hurrying around, cursing the other flying chariots in the way and trying to control a mob of children who cannot make their instruments work. His skill at singing and playing all the godly instruments is beyond doubt, but frustratingly this has failed to match his income to other gods with boring haircuts, boring shirts and a mortgage. His only sworn enemy is the god of derivative commercial TV-talent-shows. Sarepava (talk) 23:58, 9 April 2017 (CEST)

Awesome! You got it, Sarepava. By the way, I like how the name could be a play-on-words, because "Sadawa" is the Maurit word for melody. Alessa (talk) 23:16, 10 April 2017 (CEST)
Symbol of Nilus

What about the god Nilus? He is the god of sports and is worshipped through athletics competitions and ancient football matches (and maybe even more sports). He doesn't like fat and unhealthy people and has good relations with the god of health. He hates the god of food, who, according to Nilus, only gives unhealty food to the people. His symbol is a black ring (see image). Niels20020 (talk) 18:26, 10 April 2017 (CEST)

Sounds good, Niels. I'll add him in! Alessa (talk) 23:16, 10 April 2017 (CEST)

Pah Ravia/Pahrave/Para (or something else, I'll let you make the call) is the Goddess of Time, namely she doesn't have any for your nonsense, so make with the praying and offerings. If you please her, Time will be on your side; if you anger her, expect to relive every time you made a fool of yourself in high school over and over again. Time travel films will usually make reference to her, since it would be rude to use her talents and not give her at least a thank-you. She is usually depicted as having fiery red hair and clad in blue, and bearing wings on her back (I'll give you one guess why). Not to be confused with the God of News Magazines, although she does have a subscription to one.

Since there are so many gods around at the moment, I reckon it's time to have a goddess in there too to keep the boys in line. It's 2017 BC. ParAvion (talk) 02:00, 11 April 2017 (CEST)

This is cool I like it. It's true, we don't have any goddesses yet. That's a good point. Alessa (talk) 14:15, 11 April 2017 (CEST)

Is it too late to apply for deification? I'd like to be Damath, the Rabbit Demi-Goddess, associated with fear, flopping and fertility. Favored sacrifices include Savoy cabbage and parsnip greens. Couples hoping to get pregnant sometimes deliberately take a scissors and cut through an electric cord while invoking her name. The curse, "dammit Damath" is often used in situations where hesitation has resulted in an accident and/or missed opportunity. Demuth (talk) 22:40, 3 May 2017 (CEST)

Oh, heavens, no! It's not too late. I'll add the goddess now. This is funny. I'll make just a couple minor tweaks to the wording and add her now. — Alessa (talk) 23:19, 3 May 2017 (CEST)

Hi, Alessa! At first shot I just was thinking this so creative, but now, if possible, I would like to be a deity too... could be? Well, I did not imagine a good name (Bemesso, Biemsuza, would you like to choose one or create a new one?), but if I still can be a god, I would like to be the god of the speed. Not necessarily the messenger of the gods, like Hermes, but just because I love cars and speed, hehehe. About the rites, maybe something weird, like writing the name of the friend (or the enemy, if writing with red colour) in a paper attached to the leg of an eagle, so the eagle fly carrying the paper to the deity in the sky heights (I dont speak/write english very well, sorry, hehe)... What do you think?? -- BMSOUZA (talk) 17:01, 4 May 2017 (CEST)

It's definitely not too late. How do you think we can incorporate speed into something ancients would have known? Flight maybe? — Alessa (talk) 19:05, 24 May 2017 (CEST)
Well... as the rites includes an eagle, and the home of the deity is in the high sky, I think wings can be a nice symbol. But I am trying imagine something better than "the messenger of the gods", because it would be a copy of the greek Hermes. Maybe, he is claimed also if someone needs urgency in something, what do you think? If you have something about it, please tell me! ;-) -- BMSOUZA (talk) 01:36, 25 May 2017 (CEST)

I think I agree with ParAvion and Demuth that more goddesses are needed, so I'm willing to step to the plate for this. Luziam ("light-bringer" or "fog-bringer" - the etymology isn't entirely clear) is the goddess (or perpetrator, anyway) of abstraction, epistemology and phenomenology (although we can't really be sure how we know all that). She tends to sow dissent among the other gods mostly by means of abstruse philosophical discursions that are either clearly irrelevant or of questionable intent, but which distract from whatever task is at hand. Her main intent seems to be simply to slow things down. She doesn't like people who are in any kind of hurry. Typically she appears rather abstractly, as an excessive number of nodes on a map which, again, are of a typically unclear purpose, although they sometimes look okay. People will appeal to Luziam when they want to understand things, although it's a bit random whether she will elucidate or obfuscate a given situation. Nevertheless she is always insisting that people should be happy, whatever they do. There are rumors she is worshipped (or at least tolerated) not just in Maurit but in secret rites held at Freecyclopedian Temples throughout the world.--Happy mapping - Luciano (talk) 23:20, 4 May 2017 (CEST)

Yes! I like it. I could make "luzi-" to be fog or clouds in Maurit, as I already have two words for light. Plus, your description points better to "fog." I could work "knowledge" into it, too. That's also possible. I'll add her now. — Alessa (talk) 19:05, 24 May 2017 (CEST)

Hi Alessa! I know I'm about 3 years too late, but what do you think about the god "Listhion"? The god of energy and creativity, Listhion (Smooth-Thinker or something similar as the meaning) is capricious and rarely devotes much time to anything, but devotes a small amount of time to everything. People appeal to Listhion when they want a burst of energy or a change in pace, and often place an unlit candle on their heads and run in place while praying to him. He is made of a bright blue rock, and is more commonly prayed to in the south. He often gives you ideas that you later realize are creative but completely useless, which means you sold your ferret for nothing. --Lithium-Ion (talk) OGF 16:01, 21 September 2020 (CEST)