Forum:Ingrea/Capital city
The capital city of Ingerland is located in the eastern part of the country, in the region #14∈⊾, being the administrative, cultural and economic center of the nation. It's designated as a collaborative territory meaning everyone interested is welcome to contribute. However, to prevent the city from being mapped chaotically and to allow it to grow naturally, the city should be planned thoroughly in this section before anything is mapped.
| NOTE: The capital should not be based directly off London. The city should have some distinct and unique characteristics. Nevertheless, London is welcome as an inspiration. |
What to discuss:
And various other aspects, bits and pieces... |
User proposals
Sudo91's proposal:
| At first, I would like to point out the suggested size for the capital. It will, of course, depend on how many people will live in Ingerland proper. If we take the population density of IRL UK (270/sq.km), Ingerland would have 139 mln. people. Although, I doubt that such population density is possible at such high latitudes, nor it can be as low as Scottish (67/sq.km). For my calculations down below, I took the population density of 150/sq.km. and got the supposed population of Ingerland at 77 310 000. (UK has 67 mln)
Whatever the case, we probably should keep the population density of Winburgh (I would also like to keep the same name; there are myriads of objects all around OGF named after Winburgh) around the same as London (5500-6000 per sq.km.) and the city area may accomodate 1500-2000 sq.km in total. 
Location within capital regionThe capital should, of course, be placed along the river. I shifted the "centre" location to the position on the left because I believe it looks more defendable: rivers cut the access to the fort at three sides, and on the fourth side there are hills. Later on, the development of industry may lead to mass building at more flat areas, such as where "capital" marker is located on OGF at the moment. Geography of the regionHere is an another map featuring main obstacles that would play key role in city's strategic position -- hills and marshes. Most of the marshes would be gone by the present day, and hills were turned into national parks or natural reserves.  Historical growthHere's the sketch map on how the growth will go. The city's size before 1700 was quite negligible.  
Population/sizeI would estimate the capital agglomeration's population at 8 mln - 11 mln. The capital region area's population should not exceed 15 mln people. I also have this very crude map of main railways (excluding local ones) and main motorways in agglomeration.  My proposal is probably too early since we don't have main transport corridors planned. |
Discussion
The northeastern and the southern part of the capital region could be hilly as there are rivers from adjacent regions kinda originating in those locations. As a center of culture, economy, and administration, population could be at least 10% of the total population of Ingerland. In infrastructure, there could be a symmetrical layout of a palace surrounded by gardens as the seat of government, or castles that are now museums. Senju (talk) 02:11, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
I really don't want the capital to be called Winburgh - it is such an ugly name that's also not very typical of English naming conventions (it's much more like Edinburgh which is Scottish). Winburgh can stay as a decent sized city in the north. Gubble (talk) 16:39, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- There's absolutely nothing wrong with "burgh" from an etymology perspective: "Burh and burg were Old English developments of the Proto-Germanic word reconstructed as *burg-s, cognate with the verb *berg-an[1] ("to shut in for protection").[2] They are cognate with German Burg, Dutch burcht and Scandinavian borg and, in English, developed variously as "borough",[1] "burg",[3] and (particularly in the East Anglian region of England and Scotland) "burgh".[4]" (from wikipedia:Burh#Name) /wangi (talk) 10:15, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Name
Shall we try and get a name assigned to the capital city by the end of this year? I would suggest that we invite suggestions over a three-week period and then vote over the following couple of weeks so that we have a decision by the end of the year. Anyone should be welcome to submit ideas but the decision will be made by Ingerland mappers.
If there are no objections, I'll start a proposals list in a couple of days with a submission deadline of 14th December. Pawl (talk) 11:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Proposals
If you have any proposals for a name for the capital of Ingerland, please add them below by 14th December.
| Num | Name | Comments |
|---|---|---|
| 0 | Winburgh | Transfer the name from the previous capital. Etymology: wentā (from a common Celtic word meaning "tribal town" or "meeting place") + burgh (fortified settlement) |
| 1 | Andon | A nod to Andy, the creator of the original Ingerland. In-world, it could be named after the city's founder, e.g. Andreus |
| 2 | Anditon |