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As acting project coordinator for Valony, I have started a [[User:Aiki/Sandbox/Valonne|sandbox]] with some Valonian vocabulary that may be used in mapping: Valonian exonyms, names for religions, rivers...

For the following elements, having a Valonian equivalent has not been that easy. I'm proposing some solutions but others may well fit even better. Feel free to share your opinion, even though you're not well-versed in French:

== Valonian exonyms ==
=== Archanta ===
==== Federal States ====
Based on US/American - américain/états-unien, should we have ''état-fédérien/ne'' and/or ''archantéen/ne''?<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

=== Kartumie ===
Should we have ''Cartumie'' with a /y/ sound or ''Cartoumie'' with a /u/ sound?<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

=== Tarephia===
==== Novakia ====
Should we have ''novaque'' as we have Slovaquie/slovaque or ''novaquien''? As Novakia is small and not a neighbouring country, it's rather unlikely we'll have a ''rue des novaques'' compared to ''rue des pléviens''<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

=== Uletha===
==== Astria ====
In French, V-S-C (where V is for vowel and C for consonant) tends to switch to V̂-C. Should we have ''Astrie'' or ''Âtrie''? And consequently, should we have ''astrien/astrienne'' or ''âtrien/âtrienne''? Note that we may still have Âtrie but astrien, or reverse.<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
:Âtrie and âtrien(ne) both sound good to me. ⸺ [[User:Bixelkoven|Bixelkoven]] ([[User talk:Bixelkoven|talk]]) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

==== Kalm ====
Kalm equivalent is rather tricky as the direct one would be ''Calme'' as in calm.
* Using French phonetics, we could have: Kalm -> Chalm (as in caput->chef or canus->chien k->tʃ->ʃ) and later a palatisation of the ''l'' Chalm -> Le ''Chaum'' or ''Chaüm'' (as in saltus->saut salva->sauge al->aw->o) pronounced /ʃa.ɔm/, with a potential adjective chahomais/chahomaise.
* A complete exonym as we have, IRW, Deutsch/German/Allemand/Tedescho...<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
:Chaum sounds good, but Chahomais look kind of funny on the eye. Are there any potential corruption to make it appear simpler? Like Chomais? ⸺ [[User:Bixelkoven|Bixelkoven]] ([[User talk:Bixelkoven|talk]]) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

=== Religions===
==== Imamism ====
Should we have ''imamiste'' or ''imamique'' as an adjective equivalent to musulman?<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Why not simply Imamisme, similar to Imanisme ?

[[User:Imperator|Imperator]] ([[User talk:Imperator|talk]]) 21:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

==== Ivarian ====
Should we have hibérain(e) (ɛ̃/ɛn or ɛn in South of France) or hibéran(e) (ã/an or ane in South of France) as an adjective equivalent to juif/ve - israélite? Likewise, should we have Hibérainisme or Hibéranisme?<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
:If following trends in some other countries on OGF, we can have it get derived from the country of Ivira (Iviron). ⸺ [[User:Bixelkoven|Bixelkoven]] ([[User talk:Bixelkoven|talk]]) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

== Odonyms ==
=== Political system ===
IRW France, many main streets or squares are ''de la République''. Though many ''Rue'' or ''Place Royale'' still exist in France, a lots of them have been "republically" renamed. If Valony is a republic, I'd assume many ways tagged ''highway:'' will be named accordingly. Should we consider Valony a republic?<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 04:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:Personally, I am fine with either a monarchy or republic. Republics are more common nowadays, a monarchy could make things interesting. Either way I think we can approach the street issue by just ignoring the 'republicanisation', so to call. I think it would be more interesting to have both the sense of historical monarchism and present-day republicanism coexist. ⸺ [[User:Bixelkoven|Bixelkoven]] ([[User talk:Bixelkoven|talk]]) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

=== Public figures ===
Below are some names I've noted from places, mainly in Nemans:
{| class="wikitable sortable" 
|-
! Name
! Surname
! Profession
! Dates
|-
| '''{{way|35578388|Auréline}}'''
| style="font-weight:bold;" | 
| Personification of Valonne (alike [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne Marianne])?
| 
|-
| Georges
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Bêches
| 
| 
|-
| César
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Binet
| 
| 
|-
| Lucien
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Dalasque
| Author
| ~1850s
|-
| Bernard
| style="font-weight:bold;" | de l'Aïc
| 
| 
|-
| Edmond
| style="font-weight:bold;" | de   Remmeau
| Philanthropist
| ~1880s-1920s
|-
| Léopold
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Decazes
| 
| 
|-
| ?
| style="font-weight:bold;" | d'Estienne Tour
| 
| 
|-
| Léonard
| style="font-weight:bold;" | d'Ouaisie
| 
| 
|-
| ?
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Ducelle
| 
| 
|-
| Alphonse
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Durant
| 
| 
|-
| Michelle
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Frochot
| 
| 
|-
| Philippe
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Le Bon
| Ruler
| 
|-
| Roger
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Le   Grand
| Ruler
| 
|-
| ?
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Marbois
| Marshal
| 
|-
| Étienne
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Ruau
| 
| 
|-
| Hippolyte
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Sudreau
| 
| 
|-
| {{way|35501648|Arnoulet XII Maindedieu (Hand of God)}}
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Lerlac (idea)
| Emperor
| 
|}