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UL08m, Lucetia

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Mostly a river delta with hills to the north. St. Richards will sit at the Pretanic Lake. (May want to expand into surrounding countries after significant mapping is done in the UL08m)

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Lucetia is a culturally rich and geographically diverse nation with a population of approximately 12 million people. The demographic composition reflects its deep historical roots, with about 70% of the population descending from Romantian peoples from the former Kingdom of Pretany. The nation is bilingual, with Lucetian Romance used in ceremonial and official contexts and Lucetian English, enriched with Latin loanwords, spoken in daily life. The population is predominantly urban, with 65% residing in cities such as St. Richard’s, Portus Regina, and Nova Caeloria, while 35% live in rural areas characterized by agricultural villages and historic hamlets.

Economically, Lucetia thrives on a mix of traditional and modern industries. Tourism is a cornerstone of the economy, driven by the country's historical landmarks, Romance-inspired architecture, and vibrant cultural festivals. Agriculture remains significant, with Lucetia renowned for its vineyards, olive groves, and artisanal food production. Education and innovation are central to its development, with prestigious universities and research centers located in Nova Caeloria and St. Richard’s. The nation has also invested heavily in green technology, utilizing solar farms and wind power along its scenic coastline. Maritime trade is another critical sector, with major ports in Portus Regina and Maris Civitas handling regional and global commerce. Lucetia’s GDP per capita is moderately high, reflecting a balance between high-value industries and traditional crafts.

Land use in Lucetia showcases a harmonious blend of urban development, agricultural production, and protected natural areas. Urban centers are compact and dense, featuring Roman-style forums, medieval streets, and Victorian neighborhoods. They emphasize walkability and public squares, making cities cultural and economic hubs. The countryside is dotted with terraced vineyards, olive orchards, and small farming villages, set against forested highlands and river valleys. Significant portions of the countryside are preserved as national parks or cultural heritage sites, maintaining biodiversity and the nation's historical identity.

Infrastructure in Lucetia is both modern and historically inspired. A well-developed rail network connects major cities and rural areas, featuring high-speed trains and scenic routes. Roman-style roads have been updated but still follow their historical paths in many regions. Seaports in Portus Regina and smaller coastal docks facilitate trade and tourism, while Aeroportus Magna Lucetia near St. Richard’s serves as the international gateway. Utilities are advanced, with a renewable energy grid that combines solar, wind, and hydropower, and water management systems influenced by ancient Roman aqueducts. Fiber-optic internet ensures connectivity across urban and suburban areas, supporting the country’s knowledge-based economy.

Lucetia’s mapping style reflects its historical and cultural depth. Urban layouts blend Romance and medieval influences, featuring large forums, public squares, and radial street designs. St. Richard’s, the capital, showcases a Roman forum at its core, surrounded by medieval neighborhoods, Gothic cathedrals, and Victorian suburbs. Smaller cities include amphitheaters, basilicas, and compact town centers, while rural areas highlight winding roads, terraced farmland, and central market squares. Maps emphasize historical layers, from ancient ruins to modern expansions, and feature bilingual labeling in Latin for official purposes and English for practical use. Infrastructure such as railways, aqueducts, and trade routes are prominently displayed, underscoring Lucetia’s blend of historical connectivity and modern advancements.

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This is a country that formed after the Breakup of Pretany. This is what became of the former St. Richards Metropolitan area. Many Themes from the former Nortian Tribe will exist across this country.

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https://opengeofiction.net/search?whereami=1&query=55.1091%2C59.3495#map=11/55.1090/59.3495&layers=B

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Bhj867 (talk) 21:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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• Before I proceed with commenting the application, I'd require you to provide some visual plans for the territory and what you have describe, please. You can look at past applications for inspiration. Thanks! ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 10:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

• Take a look at this link for an idea of how I would like to lay out the country. https://ibb.co/1GgygmP Bhj867 (talk) 02:24, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

• Hi, I'm not admin, but I suggest coming up with a different name because of the definite similarity between Lucetia and Lutecia, the ancient name for Paris (similar to how Pretany resembled Pretani/Pritanī, the ancient name for Britain). --IiEarth (talk) 19:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

• I don't see anything wrong with the name. Nor did anyone have an issue with the name Pretany before today. Many countries in OGF have similar but not identical names to historical places. I will let others weigh in, Thank you for your input. Bhj867 (talk) 02:24, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

• Thanks for posting the sketch! There are two things I'd like to discuss about from your application:

1 - The river delta you have drawn looks incredibly large and I am not sure if it's realistic to have it that big. As it is mapped right now, the River Ise has a length of 635 kilometers until it enters the Pretannic Lake (and you seem to have trimmed it even shorter in your sketch). That is a very short distance for the river to create such a large delta. For comparion in sizes, please refer to the rivers Po in Europe and Selenga in Asia (the latter also enters a lake like the Ise), which have much smaller deltas than what you have drawn while being similar/longer in length. Also with the way you have imagined the delta this impacts the neighboring country. It would be nice to see if user Kalh79 is fine with this, so you may contact them regarding that.

One potential solution is to lengthen the river Ise towards the north, which I can technically do, but only if you want to keep the delta somewhat larger. I still believe you should decrease the size of the delta, but I am willing to meet your demands by adapting the river in the neighboring unclaimed territories. Please tell me how do you see this issue and I hope we can reach a compromise.

2 - As seen on this map the region is mostly Romance (not necessarily fully Romance), however there is Germanic in the vicinity (German and Dutch). English and its country of origin (Ingrea) is rather far away from UL08m. How do you explain the presence of English in this territory?

3 - The territory has this tag assigned to it on the Overview Map: "This territory is partly home to an important canal system". Please be acknowledged of this canal system that was imagined to enhance collaboration between mappers in the region. You can see how the canal was imagined on the following link. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 17:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

• I agree with Bixelkoven, I think that the size of the river delta should be reduced and the current course of the river should be respected. Regards and Welcome back Bhj867!!! --Kalh79 (talk) 19:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

  • 1. New draft. The river and canal does not change along Kalh79s border. (my apologies as I missed that canal). I shrunk the delta and if you can extend the river a bit deeper into the continent that would be appreciated.https://ibb.co/SQ07t93
    2. If you want I can take UL08P too a expand it myself. Or UL08L and UL08P and move everything further away from Kalhs border. Another option is to expand Kalhs territory to match the current river border and he take the entire canal and I move everything left and take all three (or two) of those territories.
    3. (your 2nd point) This correlates with my current mapping of St. Richard's that exists. If you would like we can remove this application and choose a country closer to English speaking countries. Pretany originally had an English colony in its history before my country was split up and the my Wiki page was deleted. This was the logical direction for me to go in to adhere to my previous mapping data I already created, since a Roman style papal state was no longer an option (per our prior messages). Bhj867 (talk) 21:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    4. Thank you Kalh79, glad to be back!