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I am generally a detailist in my mapping, but I can balance the detailism with this size of a country.{{territory application username and date}}
I am generally a detailist in my mapping, but I can balance the detailism with this size of a country.{{territory application username and date}}


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*Hello! I am going to step in here to help out my fellow admin while she is unavailable. There's a lot to like about the application and your mapping. Unfortunately, there are three things we need to address first.
::First, the cultural mix of English and German (with a touch of Spanish) is perfectly fine. The addition of Japanese in here, however, is not going to fit with the cultural plan Taka set up for Tarephia. There is a Japanese-language homeland that does exist on OGF, but it is in far southeastern Uletha. The distance is great and it's a bit anachronistic for there to be a Japanese presence like this in western Tarephia. There are other potential locations for where this could be relevant, but unfortunately not here. I cannot approve the application with the cultural mix as it stands now.
::The second thing is how you would handle the rural areas. I see you sampling agriculture and some forests, which is good. At the same time, your plan seems to indicate a ton of jungles and what seems to be large swaths of uninhabited areas. I would be curious how you plan to detail these. Large blobs of <code>natural=wood</code> is only a short-term fix.
::One last thing I'd like to mention is the reference to city planning. I don't see a dense core in your mapping right now. It all looks like planned development post-1970. I'm a bit confused as to how these cities would develop. Any colony (penal or not) is going to look for natural harbors and build their cores around it. Since this territory has an absolute ton of coastline, this is something I need to see before granting the territory. Also, I'm a bit confused by what you mean by Cypriot neighborhoods, also. It's an interesting invocation, and there are a ton of reasons why that might be out of place.
:All this said, I always offer a BG territory to people who would like a more fixed spot to hone things and work out details. If you'd like a BG with coastline, please say so. I'm happy to grant it unconditionally in this case. Keep in mind that anything you do there can be relocated to the new territory once it is granted, so your work is not "lost" and time is not "wasted."
:Cheers! &mdash; [[User:Alessa|Alessa]] <sub>([[User talk:Alessa|talk]])</sub> 01:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)





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Please fill in the information below to make a territory request.

Before going into details; this location is so far the best place for the suggested plan, despite being marked for advanced users (as if I, with several years of OSM experience but only 2-week presence in OGF, would count as one). Nevertheless; I'm confident that I can catch that high standard with correct mapping strategy, which is why I'm asking for this specific territory.

Territory ID and proposed name
The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country


TA231 - Livereia

Physical geography
An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. With the exception of Beginner territories, you should always create a sketch map to illustrate & explain your plans. You can add a link to this (hosted on imgBB, Postimages or similar, but not imgur.com)


Livereia is a tropical country with jungles, mountains, plains and beaches. Interior regions are covered by mountainous terrain and jungles, with several settlements being present, inhabited by natives. Coastal regions have most of plains and relatively flat terrain; which is used for food production and has most urban areas and industry.

Most cities are in coastal area with heavy planning; yet interior regions also contain several towns, planned and unplanned alike. The country has many villages as well; with the ones on plains have settler population and the ones in mountains and jungles have native population.

Please refer this simple paint.net edit for initial basic idea; with envisioned terrains and main urban areas are distinctly colored in a basic manner, without too much detail; in which various deviations from drawn plan may occur. (Geography plans can be amended upon contact. Coastlines may be altered during the planned map work. Land borders can (and in my opinion, should) be altered to not be geometric. Geography of area below purple-ish line should be discussed for consistency.)

File:Invest - The Noun Project.svgHuman geography
A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style


Oldest cities in the country are founded by the coasts in 16. century, some even utilized city walls; however few features of that era remain. Most of infrastructure is built in late 19. and early 20. century; with many of old buildings were demolished. There was an attempt to build a new capital in the in 1960s in the interior but the project was abandoned due to logistics and environmental problems, along with mass corruption of those involved. There are attempts to revive the project, however.

The colonial peoples were mostly English (Ingerish) and German (Kalmish); whom used this region as a penal colony and also an expulsion destination for Spanish (Castellans). These three groups, along with Japanese (they're unnamed apparently? I'll call it Iapanecans unless there's a name already) that arrived later, are the main bulk of population; but Ingerish is seen as a senior group.

Many colonial and "Victorian" architectural elements are used in traditionally developed architectural style up until 1960s, when the global trend of modern style is introduced. City planning is dense in old and central parts of cities, with many apartment blocks are built in terraced style. Some communist style blocks and plannings were utilized during civil war period; but both of these styles are being phased out in favor of modern or even futurist style planning, emphasizing the greenery and family. These new modern neighborhoods will have a European style (specifically, the settlements built in 2010s in Cyprus), plus more greenery; while amenities are focused on specific zones or main streets.

The countryside development is rather different; towns will have modern touchups but otherwise they will be rather irregular, signifying their village origins. Most coastal and plain areas will have orchards and farmlands; while jungle areas will be devoid of any development, save for few towns and many native villages. In most occasions, owned lands will be separated by natural tree rows (represented as area rather than line). Irregular settlements will resemble an unplanned, naturally developed village.

Transport network consists of a generally extensive road network, railroads connecting main cities to each other and to other countries, many ports and several airports. Motorways connect the major regions into each other wherever possible, with a smaller trunk road network reaching out to minor cities and mountainous major cities. Roads in plains and many crucial roads in the mountains are paved; while roads in mountainous areas lack said maintenance.

File:Noun Project languages icon 105908 cc.svgHistory & culture
A brief description of the intended culture and language


The country is home to its indigenous populations (based on Taino and Amazonian natives); who are now found in mostly mountainous regions and on the island at north. First modern settlements are founded as early as 16. century, with many of these cities and towns being founded in late 19. and early 20. centuries. Due to colonial past of the continent, majority of population have an ancestor out of the continent. These settlers (based on modern Caribbeans; mixture of colonials and natives) have been in charge for centuries, both during the colonial and post-colonial time periods.

As stated in previous section; the English and German colonizers used the region not to just settle in themselves but also relocate other nationalities, notably Spanish. For more than a century, however, the country is constantly receiving new immigrants (based on Japanese, mirroring the ones emigrated to Brazil) and they are currently making up a significant amount of total population after 5 generations.

Livereia gained independence in 1850s; in form of a constitutional monarchy. However, this monarchy was ineffective against landowners and aristocrats, as such they managed to oust monarchy in 1870s, establishing an oligarchic republic with two allied political parties. During this period, they have began inviting Iapanecan people as immigrants and later on, workers. Kalmish and Castellan people were disenfranchised along with Iapanaecans, prompting ethnic tensions.

1920s have seen a populist leader, Themopoulos Garcia slowing rising the ranks of military and was able to coup the government, defanging aristocrats and landowners, and establishing the Second Republic. Garcia was able to transform the country into a modern powerhouse; by importing industrial expertise, ending the ethnic tensions and enlarging military. However, he was assassinated during height of his popularity (1942) and the country began stagnating. Successive governments were inefficient, and were drowning in corruption. The fiasco of building a new capital in the interior in 1960s was the most notable incident, with billions of funds being embezzled.

Due to this and many other cases; General Heinz Liverez has staged a coup to prevent country from falling apart, but this move caused a civil war (Livereian Schism) happening in 1970s; with two rival governments claiming sovereignty over entire country; in which the splitter government in east assumed a communist model of governing, while Liverez effectively became a dictator. This split has been amended in mid 1980s after both parties accepted mediation and reconciliation (Concordat). No crises happened ever since; and the Third Republic was declared in the aftermath; assuming a regionalist model unlike previous regimes.

The official language is English (Ingerish); with German (Kalmish), Spanish (Castellanese), Japanese (written exclusively in hiragana. not in the index on its own so I'll call it Iapaneca) and native languages (won't be mapped at all, name is omitted) are recognized languages. General mapping of region will be done in English; except a few mixed cities in which Spanish, Japanese and German can be used too. Due to being a colonial region, native cultures have influenced the language and the settler culture.

File:Noun Project drawing icon 2123401.svgPast mapping
To support your request provide links to areas of OGF mapping which showcase your mapping skill. Mapping relevant to the requested theme & geography is especially useful.
The {{coord}}, {{node}}, {{relation}} or {{scalehelper}} templates can optionally be used to link to the OGF map - they result in nicely formatted links. Or you can paste in a URL.


Beginner area with my mapping work so far; which experiments in urban and rural areas, and is constantly being worked on:

https://opengeofiction.net/#map=13/13.8703/-112.3540

I am generally a detailist in my mapping, but I can balance the detailism with this size of a country.

Username & date
Sign and date the application by typing four tildes (~~~~) without spaces or "nowiki" tags.


~~~~ Unsigned comment by Afrandez (talk).


  • Hello! I am going to step in here to help out my fellow admin while she is unavailable. There's a lot to like about the application and your mapping. Unfortunately, there are three things we need to address first.
First, the cultural mix of English and German (with a touch of Spanish) is perfectly fine. The addition of Japanese in here, however, is not going to fit with the cultural plan Taka set up for Tarephia. There is a Japanese-language homeland that does exist on OGF, but it is in far southeastern Uletha. The distance is great and it's a bit anachronistic for there to be a Japanese presence like this in western Tarephia. There are other potential locations for where this could be relevant, but unfortunately not here. I cannot approve the application with the cultural mix as it stands now.
The second thing is how you would handle the rural areas. I see you sampling agriculture and some forests, which is good. At the same time, your plan seems to indicate a ton of jungles and what seems to be large swaths of uninhabited areas. I would be curious how you plan to detail these. Large blobs of natural=wood is only a short-term fix.
One last thing I'd like to mention is the reference to city planning. I don't see a dense core in your mapping right now. It all looks like planned development post-1970. I'm a bit confused as to how these cities would develop. Any colony (penal or not) is going to look for natural harbors and build their cores around it. Since this territory has an absolute ton of coastline, this is something I need to see before granting the territory. Also, I'm a bit confused by what you mean by Cypriot neighborhoods, also. It's an interesting invocation, and there are a ton of reasons why that might be out of place.
All this said, I always offer a BG territory to people who would like a more fixed spot to hone things and work out details. If you'd like a BG with coastline, please say so. I'm happy to grant it unconditionally in this case. Keep in mind that anything you do there can be relocated to the new territory once it is granted, so your work is not "lost" and time is not "wasted."
Cheers! — Alessa (talk) 01:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)