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TL;DR

This page will be used to develop (hopefully) final iteration of the EUOIA, a proposed supranational union comprising of countries in the Eastern Ulethan Region. Some concepts have already been discussed outside of the wiki, but as this project grows it will be necessary to allow everyone in the region (and the world) to have a voice in this project.

A note to administrators: I do recognize that there is a predecessor to this forum located here, but we will require a clean slate as we will be rebuilding things from the bottom up. If there is a better solution, feel free to implement it!

Discord Server

As stated in the previous EUOIA page, there is a discord server in which a majority of future participants (and those residing on the Eastern Ulethan) region. This server will be exclusively for countries in the region, and is located here: https://discord.gg/j7UdFdaHvQ, but this page will be frequently updated in a way so that those who can't join can still participate <3. We held a couple of relevant votes so far on the discord server to determine EUOIA elements but will be searching for a way for everybody to participate in EUOIA.

Already Decided Votes:

For full transparency, here are all the votes taken on Discord with those who voted:

Motion to begin EUOIA project:
  • YES: 100% - Nuen, Saikyel, Urksivo, Ugawa, Izaland, Miuro, Filo Islands, Wendmark-Đenkuku, Ankwoen, Sapvuodma, Taira, Moyontawi, Sephyra
  • NO: 0%

Motion to Take Over EUOIA as MSTR is No Longer Regularly Active

  • YES: 87% - Nuen, Remsfalen, Tekurius, Urksivo, Ugawa, Izaland, Miuro, Ankwoen, Sapvuodma, Semanya, Taira, Moyontawi, Sephyra
  • NO: 0%
  • BEGIN A NEW, SIMILAR PROJECT: 13% - Filo Islands, Wendmark-Đenkuku

Roll Call on Those Who are Joining EUOIA (NOT PERMANENT):

  • PARTICIPATING: 93% - Nuen, Remsfalen, Kaarti, Ukrsivo, Ugawa, Izaland, Eshein, Miuro, Filo Islands, Wendmark-Đenkuku, Ankwoen, Sapvuodma, Semanya, Taira
  • NOT PARTICIPATING: 7% - Tekurius

Agrees that EUOIA Originates from an Economic Union:

  • YES: 93% - Nuen, Remsfalen, Lantia, Urksivo, Ugawa, IZaland, Eshein, Miuro, Wendmark-Đenkuku, Ankwoen, Sapvuodma, Taira, Selanxia, Sephyra
  • NO: 0%
  • REQUEST TO PAUSE VOTE AND DISCUSS FURTHER: 7% - Kara

Proposals for Communicating & Voting

As the EUOIA project progresses, it is important to determine a means of quick, efficient communication to share ideas as this project might progress quickly. Discussion opens now on and votes will occur on Sunday 16:00 (4:00 PM) GMT+0 which closes the week after that.

Means of Communication Pros Cons Discussion
Wiki
Discord
Hybrid
[Other Proposals?]
Means of Voting Pros Cons Discussion
Wiki
Discord
Anonymous Google Forms
[Other Proposals?]


General comments

I am confused about some aspects of this post.

  • Why exactly is a new post needed, if discussion here already proceeded substantially and the nature of the project has seemingly not changed much? I don't see any downside to why you would not continue there. If the page seems to bloated with old and irrelevant material, you can hide such parts using spoilers for example. But if we start a new post everytime we want to move the direction of a discussion, discussions will fizzle out more.
  • Secondly, what is the difference between "Motion to begin EUOIA project" and "Motion to Take Over EUOIA as MSTR is No Longer Regularly Active"?
  • Second and a half-ly, even if mstr is no longer active, how and why would someone "take over" a discussion on the forum - you could still just built upon the previous discussion, it doesn't seem to me like any of the material there is only accessible to mstr?
  • And lastly, mappers are free to coordinate their bi- or multilateral cooperations anywhere they like, including Discord, the Metaverse, or per carrier pigeon. But it is an established rule that anything that affects other mappers or that claims some form of community-wide validity needs to be discussed and decided on in the forum. That is not a matter of efficiency or ease of use but of transparency and fostering a community where everyone feels (and is) heard.

Please address these points before going into further details. Thanks! Leowezy (talk) 07:33, 16 February 2025 (UTC)


I like the questions of Leowezy being answered too. Last week i received a message from Parrotman with an invitation to the Discord-server, as my territory of Neberly is in East Uletha. Parrotman highly encouraged me to join "as many other mappers use is as a medium for communication and coordination as Eastern Uletha becomes a busier place. For EUOIA stuff, we will continue to post stuff on the forum but most of our decision making will take place on Discord." I'm not a member yet of Discord and i'm not looking for another way to discuss topics in our 'corner of the world'. For me this forum works fine, also as it can be viewed by all Opengeofiction-members and not just the ones getting an invitation. Antoon (talk) 10:45, 16 February 2025 (UTC)