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Admin note: This page contains discussion on EUOIA from February 2025 onwards. 2021 - 2024 discussion can be found here, Pre-2021 discussion has been moved to that page's "Discussion" page. There is plenty of material there (including flags, treaty proposals, etc.) which could be reused.

📖 TL;DR

This page will be used to develop (hopefully) final iteration of the EUOIA, a proposed union comprising of countries in the Eastern Ulethan Region. Some concepts have already been discussed outside of the wiki, but as this project grows it will be necessary to allow everyone in the region (and the world) to have a voice in this project.

🗺️ Discussion Structure

For this discussion forum, we will discuss the broad EUOIA organization and work our way down into the little details.

Structure for Discussion

All ideas will originate from the Topic Backlog in which people pitch potential topics to discuss. I will put them in a round based off of the "broadness" and importance of the topic

Approved topics for discussion in the round will be available for discussion for two weeks in which everybody gets to pitch solutions to the topic and others get to discuss about the topic.

After discussion ends, no more new nominations will occur. In this time period we will have one week to vote. All voting will take place on the wiki forum, and double voting will not be allowed. During the voting period, there will also be options to reopen the discussion period (and end the voting process early) to extend the discussion period by another week. If you have concerns or want this structure to change, please shoot out a DM, PM, or add a comment in the "Concerns" section.

Voting Procedure

Procedure for voting depends on the type of vote we are casting:

Set Amount of Winners

This method will be used when there can only be a set, static amount of winners (usually one). For this, we will use Single Transferable Voting. Such votes will be notates as STV.

Every member will RANK their votes, with 1 being most preferred, 2 being the second choice, 3 being the third choice, etc. You may choose to place two options equally or not rank an option entirely.

For example:

Topic	Votes
Frome	(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 02:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
Grimsby	(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 02:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
Blue	(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 02:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
Apple Pie	(3) - ParrotMan (talk) 02:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
Porple

Where "Frome" is my most preferred and "Apple Pie" is my least preferred. "Grimsby" and "Blue" are equal for me, so they are both "2", and Porple is left blank because I don't care for it. If you choose to not vote on certain topics, said topic will be always treated as a your last choice.

If you do not rank votes with numbers, all votes will be treated equally.

Dynamic Amount of Winners

This method will be used when there can be a nonstatic amount of winners. Each topic will win by simple majority (50% + 1), FPTP style. Such votes will be notated as Y/N FPTP

For example:

Topic	Vote - No	Vote - Yes
Frome	Swan Penguin Ox
Grimsby	Penguin	Swan Ox
Blue	Penguin	Swan Ox
Apple Pie	Swan	Penguin
Porple	Swan Ox

Here, "Grimsby" and "Blue" win. Apple Pie does not win since it only secured 50% of the vote, not 50% + 1.

Membership

If you wish to be a participating member of EUOIA, please put your country below. If we anticipate types of membership (observing states, etc...) and you feel that you might fall into that group, you can still put your country below. This list will not be permanent to allow members come and go as they please.

Country	Member Type	User
Wendmark-Denkuku	Member	ParrotMan (talk) 16:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Eshein		Ifgus (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Lantia		Nehalem501 (talk) 22:43, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Izaland	Member	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:34, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Miuro		Kyunzi (talk) 03:43, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Neberly		Antoon (talk) 18:45, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Kojo	Member	Leowezy (talk) 15:07, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Ugawa	Member	Ominvar (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Ogesten		Added on Request
Sanain Republic	Member	Stara Zagora (talk) 01:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Filo Islands	Member	Added on Request
Canterra	Member	Added on Request
Sapvuodma		Added on Request
Taira	Member	Axaeve (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
Sephyra	Member	GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 19:57, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
Bloenland		CaribbeanIslandMapper (talk) 10:19, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Lingne		Souzzzzie (talk) 09:33, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Urksivo	Member	Alomico (talk) 09:17, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
Remsphalia		Distel (talk) 02:38, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Nuen		Gubble (talk) 11:48, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Wyster	Member	Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
Semanya		Geoboi (talk) 18:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Kara	Member	Anonymous21 (talk) 22:06, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Terolask	Member	JasmineDM (talk) 15:04, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Topic Backlog

For some topics y'all want to discuss, put them in the region below. For topics currently in discussion (or already have been discussed) check the latter portions of this page.

Topic	Proposing User	Additional Notes
Locations for suborganizations	Ominvar (talk) 03:59, 13 April 2025 (UTC)	Since we voted to split up the government and place them in different locations, we should determine the location of the suborganizations. We should first vote on what suborganizations there are before voting on this topic, and then have separate votes for the locations of the suborganization headquarters.
How do Nonbinding Laws, Mandatory Laws, and Treaties interact with each other?	ParrotMan (talk) 23:45, 1 May 2025 (UTC)	As we keep adding treaties, we should clarify and differentiate the role of nonbinding laws, mandatory laws, and treaties.

📢 Current Rounds of Discussion

Sorry for the delay! Please note that there are two rounds of discussion running concurrently.

Round #4:

Topics Proposed By: ParrotMan, Izaland Terramorphing Committee, Ominvar

Round Start: June 23, 2025

Vote Start: TBD

Voting Method: TBD

Round End: TBD

Round Status: Discussions Only

Round #4 will deal with administrative, boring stuff, as well as the locations of legislative, court, and executive branches. Because of the special nature of this round, there is no set date for voting procedure. Currently, this round will serve purely as a place for discussion and will not close until the aforementioned topics have been completed or settled on.

Documenting the EUOIA on the Wiki

We may start making moves to place the EUOIA on the wiki. Just feel free to discuss here about the progress of the wiki <3. There will be no vote for this subject.

Discussion

Tagging and Membership

Please tag your country with the appropiate membership status. Recall that we have established four membership types: (Full) Members, Observers, Associates, and Special Status. Please refer to Round #3 for more information. If you plan on obtaining Special Status, please indicate so in the second table so that it can be discussed. There will be no vote for this subject.

When tagging, please follow standard tagging for organizations

(organization:EUOIA = member, organization:EUOIA = observer, organization:EUOIA = associates, organization:EUOIA = special). Please check the map below for your membership type. The map is broken for now, please standby :)

Special Status

Location	Nominator	Notes	Discussion

Note: I will be tagging all EUOIA as Member States per agreement above to save time. If you wish to change your status in EUOIA, you may change it yourself. Awesomeboy123 (talk) 08:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Member States •      Observer States •      Associate States •      Special Members •      Non-member state

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Order of Accession

For history's sake, please write down dates related to your country's history in membership with the EUOIA. Your country may possibly have differing membership types throughout its history, so please also document that, if possible. A common, but not standard, accession path would be: Associates → Observers → Member; Please keep this realistic!

Country	User	History of Membership	Notes	Discussion
Wendmark-Denkuku	ParrotMan (talk) 22:41, 27 June 2025 (UTC)	East Uletha Economic Community (19??), EUOIA Founding Member (1954)	The date for the founding of the EUOIA is still to be determined, but I estimate it around 1954, years after the "Great War" (whatever that might be)
Canterra	Awesomeboy123 (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	EUEC member, founding member of EUOIA (1954)
Taira	Axaeve (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	EUOIA Member (1971)
Izaland	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	EUEC member, founding member of EUOIA (1954)
Kojo	Leowezy (talk) 10:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)	founding member of EUOIA (1954)
Semanya	Geoboi (talk) 13:42, 30 June 2025 (UTC)	Associate (1983) EUOIA Member (1988)	Semanya initially applied to join the EUOIA in 1970, but the growing authoritarian tendencies of the Įasera administration prompted the EUOIA to delay the proceedings. Ultimately, the EUOIA was forced to formally revoke Semanya's candidate status in June of 1973. Semanya re-applied to join the EUOIA in 1982, after the fall of the Įasera regime. The country held associate status from 1983 to 1988.
Ugawa	Ominvar (talk) 00:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC)	EUOIA Member (1992)
Wyster	Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 12:39, 3 July 2025 (UTC)	founding member of EUOIA (1954)	A later date is also possible, if joining in 1954 seems odd, given Wyster's relative distance to the other nations that indicate themselves as founding members.	I think the date would be fine, seeing as the Filo Islands and Kara were also founding members. Anonymous21 (talk) 03:52, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Filo Islands	Sjk23 (talk) 13:48, 3 July 2025 (UTC)	founding member of EUOIA (1954)	As with Wyster, a later date is fine as the islands are at the far end of the peninsula and are a long distance from other founding nations. However, FIlo Islands is often a peaceful nation so may be useful in post-war peace negotiations.
Kara	Anonymous21 (talk) 22:49, 3 July 2025 (UTC)	Karskat (predecessor state) - founding member of EUOIA (1954) Yumerd (predecessor state) - member (1960) Union of Kara - member (1962) United Republic of Kara (reaffirmation of membership) - member (1979)	For context, Kara was formed as the Union of Kara in 1934, but the individual member states (Karskat, Vezhekja, and Yumerd) retained power over international diplomacy. Karskat was a founding member of the EUOIA in 1954, and the nation of Yumerd joined in 1960. In 1962, an amendment gave the Union of Kara power over diplomacy and international relations. At this point, Karskat and Yumerd's membership in the EUOIA was officially revoked and the Union of Kara joined the EUOIA as one member. In 1979, the government of Kara was completely restructured, with the Union of Kara officially disbanded and the United Republic of Kara established in its stead under a new constitution. At that time, the EUOIA officially affirmed the United Republic of Kara as the official successor of the Union of Kara and gave it membership status.	Some dates could be moved, of course. But, given Kara's predisposition to cooperation (itself initially being a union of three nations), I think it participating as a founding member makes sense. Anonymous21 (talk) 03:52, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Sephyra	GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 08:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC)	EUEC member (1990), EUOIA Member (1982)	EUEC Associate before 1954 1954 - Became an Associate at the founding of EUOIA as its development was still limited given the country was only formally founded in 1921. 1965 - Became an Observer as it was growing closer to major player in Transuletha. 1982 - Became a EUOIA member as the government was ready to establish formal and both-way international relations.	EUEC refers to the predeccessor of the EUOIA, thus ceased to exist in 1954. Maybe you mean as an observer state? Keep in mind that accession has to be approved by the supermajority of other states, and given that Sephyra is a member state of ASUN, would provide for some conflict-of interest. Perhaps explore other membership types, such as Associate or Observer status. DM me if you have any questions! - ParrotMan (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2025 (UTC) I've fixed it to fit the history more! - GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 22:33, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
Terolask	JasmineDM (talk) 15:04, 14 July 2025 (UTC)	Founding member of EUOIA (1954)	Would make sense for Terolask to have been a founding member given its location. This might also make it more feasible that Wyster would be a founding member as has been discussed above.

Flags and Symbols

What flags and symbols will we use to represent the EUOIA? Feel free to recycle assets from the last forum. There is currently no date for the vote of this subject.

Flag/Symbol	Nominator	Notes (what will this represent?)	Discussion
	DT Planner (talk)	Flag with a blue background representing the sky and the sea that contains a symbol that has a cross that represents the cardinal points and the brightness of the sun, the symbol in the center of the cross represents a stylized flower that represents peace and each side of the flower represents each region into which East Uletha is traditionally divided (in total 16); the rotated star in the center of the flower represents cohesion; the outer circle represents cooperation, harmony and unity and the top outer semicircle represents a sunrise.
	DT Planner (talk)	Variation of the first flag in which the green background represents nature, harmony and hope.
	DT Planner (talk)	Variation of the first flag.
Apologies! Wangi didn't give me any instruction on copyright tagging and blocked me from sending any files until September, so the flag is here: [1] I will update this when my ban ends.	Awesomeboy123 (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	- Blue: peace and stability + oceans and trading - Orange: Can be interpreted as wheat and/or rays of the sun, for the Japonic/Izaki influenced parts of EUOIA (prosperity) - White: Stone for the medieval castles and snow-topped mountains, symbolizing Kalmish/Northern parts and the mountainous parts in general (purity of EUOIA) The logo is a circle made out of crescents (sun and moon, 2 parts of EUOIA)., also means sun rising + reflections in waves. Weaving just stands for cross-trading and historical difference that merges together through EUOIA. Draft was originally made on January 3rd, 2025 Finalized in Discord server on January 4th, 2025.

Lawmaking Government Locations

Please indicate locations of interest in which the Four Core Institutions can be placed (refer to Round #2 for further information). The institutions are: Legislative Assembly, State Commission, Court of Justice, and the Executive Council. For now, proposed locations can host more than one core institution. In the future, though discussion, locations may be whittled down to a final vote. Please note that suborganizations may also be hosted in different places, but is not a subject for discussion yet. There is currently no date for the vote of this subject.

Location	Nominator	Notes	Discussion
Eulerhafen, Wendmark-Dzenkuku	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	If Canterra as the State Commission, would like to have the Executive Council, otherwise Legislative Assembly :)
Nautecove, Canterra (Ankwoen)	Awesomeboy123 (talk) 01:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)	Location: [2] Any institution would work, however I'd think the State Commission would be best.	I support State Commission in Canterra ParrotMan (talk) 02:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
Saindzaul, Izaland	ParrotMan (talk) 02:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)	Legislative Assembly
Pyingshum, Kojo	ParrotMan (talk) 02:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)	Only if Kojo is a founding member: Court of Justice
Nevensad, Saikyel	Ominvar (talk) 00:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC)	If Saikyel is a founding member, its rather centralized location and neutral position would be a good fit for a location

Suborganization Locations

Refer to previous rounds for suborganizations. For now, do not add any suborganizations as there are none approved.

Location	Nominator	Notes	Discussion

Round #5:

Topics Proposed By: ParrotMan, Izaland Terramorphing Committee, Ominvar, GreenStumpyMonster

Round Start: June 23, 2025

Vote Start: July 16, 2025

Voting Method: Y/N FPTP

Round End: July 23, 2025

Round Status: Discussions Only

Round #5 will continue with more proposals surrounding treaties and suborganizations, but will be organized in a different manner such that anybody can freely put out a proposal.

Treaties

What other treaties should we have?

Proposal	Nominator	Binding?	Notes	Discussion
Expanding Single Market Principles to Digital Markets	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC) Izaland Terramorphing Committee	Yes	Serves as an auxillary to the Common Market Treaty on a digital platform; Member states are to: Ensure that consumers can access online content and make purchases from any EUOIA country regardless of location and without restrictions (which includes the banning of data-roaming fees) Ensure that consumers have reasonable privacy online and are protected from predatory online practices. Commit to combatting online scams and other fraudulent activities.
Common Currency	ParrotMan (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2025 (UTC)	No	Agreeing states are to: Share a common currency, recognizing that the East Ulethan Central Bank is the central bank for said currency. Able to print said common currency under the direction of the East Uletha Financial Oversight Agency, unauthorized or fraudulent notes to be nullified and destroyed. New member states adopting common currency must have: stable prices, sustainable interest rates, sustainable public finances, and stable exchange rates.
Health	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes	Member states are to: Coordinate in matters regarding disease response and prevention Ensure appropiate regulations that prevent disease and injury to citizens
Cooperation in Justice	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes	Member states are to: Extradite criminals to other member nations Coordinate and communicate on issues regarding internal security Cooperate in cross-border judicial and law enforcement matters Allow EUOIA audits regarding EUOIA law only.
Human Rights	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes	Member states are to protect basic human rights: Speech Expression Worship and Belief Assembly and Protest Privacy Free and fair elections excepting those incarcerated Right to free and impartial trials Freedom from slavery Freedom from discimination (very broad, that is on purpose) Freedom from torture and cruel, inhumane treatement, especially under state supervision. Freedom from arbitrary arrest, detention, and exhile
Preventing the Proliferation of WMDs and Domestic Violence	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes	Member states are to: Ban nuclear weapons Ban biological weapons Limit the proliferation of chemical weapons Limit the export of weapons to areas of concern Ensure that weapons used in defence are secured appropiately and safely Member states must also ensure that civilians: Can not obtain and/or trade WMDs Are limited from obtaining lethal weapons (limits or bans are to be determined by member states). Regulate commercial exports of lethal weapons
Providing Fundamental Services	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes(?)	Member states are to ensure that all residents are able to access, to the greatest extent possible and reasonable: Police and fire services Clean drinking water Electricity Healthcare Primary and secondary education to minors Shelter (?)
Standardisation and Interoperability Initative	ParrotMan (talk) 20:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	No	Agreeing states are to, to the best of their ability, and are able to modify or supplement the following in a reasonable manner as needed: Adopt and implement a standard system of traffic and rail signals Ensure interoperability with between railways, only where reasonable (those with different gauges are encouraged to introduce dual guage in places of high demand... isolated countries with no such connections like the Filo Islands are exempt) Adopt and implement the international concensus of aviation practices Adopt and implement a system electrical compatibility where reasonable (although we have differing AC power standards, DC power is best for long-range power transmission and is immune from different AC power requirements)
Aid	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes	Member states are to, in times of crisis, encouraged to help each other, including: Natural disasters Defence and Security Political Instability	This potentially should be binding - particularly natural disasters Sjk23 (talk) 13:48, 3 July 2025 (UTC) I do agree that like friends, it should be necessary to help each other GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC) Noted! I switched it around :) - ParrotMan (talk) 00:55, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
Mutual Recognition of Member State Records	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes	Member states are to respect the records of other member states, such that, amendable to each state: Marriages Identification Contracts Licenses Passports Diplomatic Passes etc. offered in one country are to be recognized in other countries, unless local laws indicate otherwise... (for example, plsdonthatemeforthis thisisforrealism, marriages are to be recognized everywhere, but same-sex marriage in one country will only be legally recognized in other member states that also legally recognize same-sex marriage)
State Powers Reservation Treaty	ParrotMan (talk) 15:39, 15 July 2025 (UTC)	Yes	Powers that are not reserved, either exclusively or implied, to the EUOIA are to be given to member states

Providing/Clarifying Names for Previous Agreed Treaties

Treaty	New Name	Nominator	Notes	Discussion
Freedom of Movement	Freedom of Movement	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Seems fine as it is
EUHEEP	Foreign Educational Exchanges	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	I would like to split the treaty from the program. EUHEEP will be the program (proposed in the suborganization), and the IEE treaty would allow the program to be established
Military System	Joint Training Initatives	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	As Sapien has proposed
Common Market	Common Market & Eastern Common Market (Ecomar)	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Resurrecting a previous acronym (ecomar) from the previous forum.

Suborganizations

What suborganizations should we have? If it requires a treaty to back it up, please indicate so in the appropiate column. If the suborganization is linked to a treaty that has NOT been approved yet in Round #3, please add the treaty in the Treaties tab. Suborganizations will fail if its treaty fails to pass in vote.

Proposal	Nominator	Requires Treaty?	Binding?	Notes	Discussion
East Uletha Treasury and Income Agency (EUTIA)	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Common Market	Yes	Authority that works to collect funds (ahem... taxes) for the EUOIA and executes the budget of the EUOIA. Responsible for debt and asset management.
East Uletha Financial Oversight Agency (EUFA)	ParrotMan (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Common Market (Already enacted) & Common Currency	Yes, but issues regarding Common Currency is nonbinding.	Unified authority that oversees the banking system, open market, insurance, securities, and the common currency of the EUOIA.	Bid for banking authority (EUBA) to be headquartered permanently in Nevensad, Sãikyel — Stara Zagora (talk) 01:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC) I likes! - ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Central Bank	ParrotMan (talk) 02:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Common Currency	N/A - Independent Organization	A central bank for the common currency :) and is independent of the Financial Oversight Agency, but must cooperate.	Would prefer that at least the central bank be located in Nevensad as well - ParrotMan (talk) 00:55, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Investment Bank	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Common Currency	N/A - Independent Organization	An investment bank for the common currency :) which is also independent of the Financial Oversight Agency
East Uletha Competition and Market Agency (EUCOMA)	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	No - Single Market (already voted in)	Yes	Ensures fair trade practices, reviews mergers, and prevents abuse of dominant market positions.	Bid for EUCOMA be located in Eulerhafen, Wendmark-Dzenkuku - ParrotMan (talk) 00:55, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Environment Agency (EUEA)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	No	No	Provides information about, and oversees, enviornmental policy
East Uletha Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (EUCDC, CDC)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Health, Providing Fundamental Services	Yes	Coordinates operations against infectious diseases and oversees the health of East Ulethans. Works to ensure accessibility in healthcare.	Bid for EUCDC/CDC to be headquartered permanently in Siethyrwirc, Wyster — Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 18:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Medicine and Drug Agency (EUDA)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Health	Yes	Coordinates operations against illegal drugs and regulates pharmaceutical requirements	Bid for pharmaceutical authority (EUPA) to be headquartered permanently in Panaireki, Izaland — Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 13:20, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Products Safety Agency	ParrotMan (talk) 22:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Health	Yes	Ensures safety of consumer products such as food, cosmetics, toys, etc... anything that is not medicine!
East Uletha Agriculture and Food Agency (EUAF)	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Providing Fundamental Services	Yes (?)	Coordinates agricultural policy, food security, and subsidies across the union.
East Uletha Transportation Safety Agency (EUTSA, TSA)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Health	Yes	Regulates rail, aviation, maritime safety and launches investigations when accidents occur.	Bid for transportation safety authority (EUTSA) to be headquartered permanently in Nautecove, Ankwoen -- Awesomeboy123 (talk) 01:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
EUOIA Court System (ECS)	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Cooperation in Justice	Yes	Is an INDEPENDENT, loose organization which comprises of the EUOIA's court system, in which the Court of Justice sits at the top.	Should be headquartered where the Court of Justice is located - ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Prosecutor's Office (EUPO)	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Cooperation in Justice	???	Represents the EUOIA in court cases, and determines charges. Works with EULEC and EUJEC to bring criminals to court and the Court System for warrants, etc... (yes, EUPO can issue warrants.)	Do not know why there are so many suborganisations for law, i recommend grouping them just under law because law almost always requires a court, prosecutor, punishment etc. GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Agency for Law Enforcement Cooperation (EULEC)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Cooperation in Justice	Yes	Strengthens law enforcement and judicial cooperation between member states as well as extradition. Ensures that member states do not give refuge to criminals in other member states.
East Uletha Agency for Judicial and Extradition Cooperation (EUJEC)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Cooperation in Justice	Yes		Bid for EUJEC to be headquartered permanently in Wyster -- ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Agency for Cybersecurity (EUcyber, EUcybersec)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Criminal Justice (implied) & Expanding Common Market Principles to Digital Markets	Yes	Helps keep EUOIA institutions and technology secure from security crimes. Also works to disable scams and other online fraud in the EUOIA.	Bid for EUcyber to be headquartered in Olymara, Sephyra - GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Weapons Audit Office (EUWAO)	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Preventing the Proliferation of WMDs and Domestic Violence	Yes	Ensures that member states comply with EUOIA regulations surrounding WMDs (for the military) and (to the most reasonable extent) lethal weapons (for civilians)
East Uletha Agency for Defense (EUdef)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Military System (Already enacted)	No	Coordinates military cooperation and intelligence between EUOIA countries	Nominating Noy Tyrrin, Eshein for EUDEF HQ - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 01:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Fundamental Rights Agency (EUFRA)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Human Rights	Yes	Promotes human rights within the EUOIA as well as overseas	Bid for EUFRA to be headquartered in Bayside, Sephyra - GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Agency of International Affairs (EUAIA)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	No	No	Promotes relations and diplomacy with overseas countries and organizations	Bid for EUAIA to be headquartered permanently in Seirun, Taira - Axaeve (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Institution for Technology and Innovation (EUITI)	ParrotMan (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	No	No	Works with businesses, educational, and research organs across the region to promote innovation	Bid for the EUITI to be headquartered permanently in the Dzenkuku-Utera Autonomous Metropolitian District to be administered jointly by Izaland and WDz. ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Agency for Education	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Providing Fundamental Services	Yes(?)	Supports member state education systems and provides research, insight, and funds for better education.
East Uletha Higher Education Exchange Program (Already Enacted, Proposed to Move as Suborganization) (EUHEEP)	Izaland Terramorphing Commitee	No - Educational Exchanges (Already Enacted)	No	The Euheep allows students to study in other member nations without tuition fees and promote international research programs.	Bid for EUHEEP to be headquartered permanently in Izaland :) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:32, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Internal Affairs and Labor Agency (EUIFA)	ParrotMan (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	No	No	Establishes a system of EUOIA offices throughout member states which allows citizens to interact with the EUOIA. Should be the "face" of the EUOIA in the lives of citizens. Also works to collect information about labor and employment, especially with regards to workplace safety.
East Uletha Standards and Interoperability Organization (EUSIO)	ParrotMan (talk) 22:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Standardisation and Interoperability Initative	No	Coordinates with agreeing member states to improve interoperability and ensure standards across borders.	This is way too general and borders are really only the affairs of the countries that have it GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC) This suborganization will only apply to those who signed the Standardisation and Interoperability Initative Treaty, thus it is not binding (opt-out) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:39, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Digital Affairs Office (EUDAO)	ParrotMan (talk) 15:32, 30 June 2025 (UTC)	No	Yes	Works for police regarding telecommunication, information, internet, and is responsible for managing the EUOIA's digital resources and infrastructure. Currently working to digitize the EUOIA's gov't operations.
East Uletha Intellectual Properties Office	ParrotMan (talk) 22:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Common Market	Yes	Offers businesses and citizens trademark and design protections throughout the EUOIA
East Uletha Asylum Agency	ParrotMan (talk) 22:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)	No	No	Coordinates with member states for foreign Asylum requests
East Uletha Agency for Space Affairs (EUASA)	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	No	No	Coordinates with countries for space intiatives :o (????)	Bid for EUASA to be permanently headquartered in Sephyra, i've actually planning a good space for a spaceport GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Disaster and Civil Protection Agency (EUDPA)	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)	Yes - Aid	Yes	Manages civil protection coordination, emergency response, and disaster aid mechanisms.
EUOIA Internal Audit Office (EIAO)	ParrotMan (talk) 15:32, 30 June 2025 (UTC)	No	Yes	Conducts audits, investigations, and inspections to ensure EUOIA agencies and the EUOIA government are operating legally and efficiently to detect and prevent fraud, abuse, and mismanagement.
East Uletha Indigenous Nations Alliance (EUINA)	GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)	Yes?	Yes?	Primarily for a previous Indigenous society that had been colonised or advanced - it ensures that their voices are heard, they are treated equally and that their heritage is infringed upon	Should probably be a country that actually has a lot of indigenous affairs (bid for Sephyra!) GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC) I doubt that member states would want the EUINA to be binding, but if you insist, then we can tack this on the Human Rights Treaty :) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:39, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
East Uletha Smart Urban Development Agency (EUSUDA)	GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)	No	No	Sharing best practices in urban planning, supporting smart technology implementation, and addressing urban challenges like housing and transportation. Very fun because we're on OGF.

Naming Concerns

Round #1 established the name to be "Eastern Ulethan Organization of Intergovernmental Associates," but the name might not be gramatically correct, or twe might want another name overall.

Name	Nominator	Notes	Discussion
Eastern Ulethan Organization of Intergovernmental Associates	N/A	Keep the previous name
East Uletha Organization of Intergovernmental Associates	ParrotMan (talk) 05:20, 24 June 2025 (UTC)	Refers to a political entity (like South Korea, West Germany, South Africa)
Eastern Uletha Organization of Intergovernmental Associates	ParrotMan (talk) 05:20, 24 June 2025 (UTC)	May refer more to geography than a political entity (like Northern Europe, Eastern Asia, Southern Africa)
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

🗳️ Previous Discussions & Votes

All outcomes and voting logic is posted here for full transparency. Message me if you have any concerns. Winning topics are tagged with "🏅".

Round #3:

Topics Proposed By: ParrotMan, CaribbeanIslandMapper, Izaland Terramorphing Committee, GreenStumpyMonster

Round Start: April 19, 2025

Vote Start: May 3, 2025

Voting Method: STV, Y/N FPTP

Round End: May 18, 2025

Round Status: Closed.

Round Two Conflict Resolution

The previous round had one conflict that might need some clarification, where two motions passed that specified voting procedure (see "Only the highest decision making organ composed of the national heads-of-state is binding. The majority of agreements deciding among the elective body are non-binding and are more decentralised." from Topic #2 and "Four Core Institutions" from Topic #4). In the future, I will take more care into make sure conflicts do not show up. Heads up! This will be a simple Y/N vote.

Conflict	Notes	Discussion	Vote - Yes	Vote - No	🏅
Who makes up the Executive Council?	Topic #4 lays the groundwork for the Executive Council, the "Executive Branch" of the EUOIA. Topic #2 implies that the executive council needs to be made up of the heads-of-states of all participating nations, while Topic #4 just requires representatives on behalf of heads-of-states. Yes - Executive Council needs to consist of Heads-of-States No - Executive Council can consist of representatives on behalf of Heads-of-States			ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC) DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)	NO
Do Executive Council Laws require approval from the Legislature?	Under the current system, only the Executive Branch may impose mandatory laws (Topic #2). However, all laws must pass through the legislature (Topic #4). Should mandatory laws originating from the executive branch have approval from the Legislative Assembly and the State Commission as well? Yes - Mandatory Laws require Legislative Approval No - Mandatory Laws do not require Legislative Approval		ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC) DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC)		YES
Does the Legislative Assembly and the State Commission have the rights to initiate non-binding laws?	Topic #2 sets up a plan for mandatory and non-mandatory laws, with non-mandatory laws originating from the Legislative branch (Legislative Assembly + State Comission). Topic #4 requires that all laws originate from the Executive Branch. Should nonbinding laws originate from the Legislative Branch? Yes - Nonbinding laws originate from the Legislative Branch, while binding laws originate from the Executive No - All laws originate from the Executive		ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC) DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC)		YES
Do laws originating from the Legislative Assembly and the State Commission require approval from the Executive Council?	Many countries around the world allow the executive branch to veto any bill they see fit. Under a binding and nonbinding law system, how can the executive branch influence nonbinding laws? Yes - Nonbinding laws must seek approval from the Executive Branch No - Nonbinding laws do not require Executive Approval.		ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC) DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC)		YES

Requirements for EUOIA Membership

Here, we can set up a system for what types of membership and the requirements to fulfill those membership types.

Proposal	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Full Membership, Observers	Ominvar (talk) 16:41, 22 April 2025 (UTC)	Full members:Must be in East Uletha. Must be willing to work with others economically and diplomatically. Must have diplomatic relations with a supermajority of countries in EUOIA. New members must be approved by 3/4ths of existing members. Observers:Must have diplomatic relations with a supermajority of countries in EUOIA. States wishing to seek observer status must be approved by 2/3rds of EUOIA members.	Currently a lot of countries actually do not have enough embassies (2/3) except for a few, particularly the newer countries. We should consider this. GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 07:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC) Whatever proposal we choose, I think we can all agree that all participating countries should work to extend their diplomatic system! - ParrotMan (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)	(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (3) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Full Membership, Associates, Observers, Special Status	GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 22:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)	Full Membership: Obviously has to be in East Uletha. They will most likely be the major hub in their sectors with the exception they have the redeeming features that make them influential continent wide. They must always willingly and constructively participate in discussions. They must always also help countries with lower status around them. Associates: Countries that have a partnership with the union but do not have full voting rights such as vetoing. They may participate in certain committees and initiatives. Less prominent countries will be categorised as this. Observers: Non-member countries or organizations that wish to engage with the union without formal membership. They can attend meetings and access certain resources but cannot vote, instead relying on nearby powerful countries to vote. Special Status: Countries that have unique circumstances (e.g., post-conflict nations, territories with special needs) that require tailored support and integration processes. The rest of countries not here will be those unwilling to participate/unaware of EUOIA (least ideal).	I'm not a huge fan of how Full Membership may compromise the sovereignty of member nations... ParrotMan (talk) 15:18, 25 April 2025 (UTC) I would like it to be optional to help other countries and also for there to be the option to abstain from some decisions of the organization, since if this path is taken, supranationalism would surpass the national interests of each country. DT Planner (talk) 16:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)	(3) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (3) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (3) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (3) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (4) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (4) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Membership, Observers, Associates, Special Status	ParrotMan (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)	Full Membership: Should generally be in East Uletha, but may be a bit more flexible (which accomodates overseas posessions, such as colonies). Must be willing to agree to mandatory treaties and recognize the EUOIA's government. New members must be approved by 2/3 supermajority of existing members. Such members can vote in the EUOIA legislature and executive branch Observers: Countries that ratified a portion, but not all, mandatory treaties and extensively cooperates with the EUOIA on a supranational level (e.g., participating in open-border or the economic community) but do not meet the requirements to become a full member. Observers are approved when the parliament and executive approve ascension at a 2/3 supermajority vote. Observers can participate in debate in the Legislative Assembly and State commission, but not participate in the Executive Council. Observers may not vote in the legislative branch. Associates: Countries that are not observers but still wish to seek some to minimal cooperation with the EUOIA. Partner states ratify little to no mandatory treaties but participates in some EUOIA-level cooperation, such as open border policies or [components] of the economic community. Associates may not join parliamentary debate. Special Status: Countries or territories that do not comply with membership status, but are given special permissions to access specific EUOIA institutions, such as banking, etc... Each Special Country are granted specific permissions and the amount of permission given to countries are not uniform across all countries with Special Status. Special Status is confirmed with a 3/4 supermajority vote. Countries with special status must have good diplomatic ties with the EUOIA. Because of how vague and flexible the "Special Status" grants, there will not be a lot of countries that get this status. IRL examples can be the Vatican City, San Marino, Monaco, and Andorra being part of the Eurozone(-ish) without being part of the EU.	It is quite problematic if the full member isn't in East Uletha because the whole purpose is to be most relevant to our continent; also I think Equatorial Izland is basically the equatorial version of the more prominent and important Izaland - overseas possessions is too broadly defined! Though I do agree with the idea of partners.GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 22:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC) Well, the borders of what we view as "Eastern Uletha" might change as the region shifts historically, geographically, and culturally. It might be best to omit that requirement. Also, I meant foreign territories directly administered by a member country, which isn't Equatorial Izaland -- oops! ParrotMan (talk) 00:57, 24 April 2025 (UTC)	(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Full Membership, Observers, Associates	Ominvar (talk) 03:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)	Full Members:Must be located in East Uletha (defined as countries in Uletha, with ID number ranging from 18 to 33). Must be willing to work with other member states economically and diplomatically, and be at peace with all members of the EUOIA. Must be willing to participate in cooperative discussion and ratify mandatory treaties associated with the EUOIA (as well as the founding treaty of course). New members must be ratified by a 2/3rds supermajority of countries. Observers: Countries willing to engage with the EUOIA, but that have not ratified the required treaties. Must cooperate economically/diplomatically with EUOIA, and observer status must be ratified by a 2/3rds supermajority of countries. Associates: Countries that are not observers but wishing to collaborate with EUOIA or rely on trade/diplomacy with the EUOIA.	Restricting to certain ID Numbers is not realistic ParrotMan (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2025 (UTC) We can probably remove the ID requirement thing then, as many people probably know what East Uletha is. Ominvar (talk) 15:13, 24 April 2025 (UTC)	(3) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (3) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (3) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

Freedom of Movement

How should our Freedom of Movement system work? Should this be a Mandatory, or Non-binding Treaty?

Proposal	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Modified Schengen System Non-binding	ParrotMan (talk) 14:35, 22 April 2025 (UTC)	Participating countries keep open borders allowing for all sorts of free movement. Nonparticipating countries can choose to decide how to allow people cross the border (e.g., no visas + passport, or just a simple id, etc...) but is facilitated mainly through the EUOIA. It's important to note that countries not part of this system can still choose to dictate how they pursue open borders (to specific countries, etc...) but just won't participate in widespread open borders.		(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Various open border agreements between member states Non-binding	Ominvar (talk) 16:41, 22 April 2025 (UTC)	Various regions and states have open border agreements with each other (mostly independent of the EUOIA), choosing which countries to have open-border agreements with.	So would the treaty just set up the framework for this open border policy, not dictate it? - ParrotMan (talk) 23:13, 22 April 2025 (UTC) I think it is best to do it open as a lot of countries have different characteristics and it is weird to allow open access between countries of significant distance. GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 07:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC) In my opinion, it's too much bureaucracy and allows for disunity should each state choose to have which borders open to who. I think it'd be better to have one system in which countries can choose to either join or not. I feel like countries not participating in a unified system can opt out and choose for themselves, anyways. ParrotMan (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)	(3) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.		(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Educational Exchanges

Will the EUOIA have a student exchange program similar to Europe's Erasmus program? Should this be a Mandatory, or Non-binding Treaty?

Proposal	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
EUHEEP - East Uletha Higher Education Exchange Program Non binding treaty	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 00:33, 24 April 2025 (UTC)	The Euheep allows students to study in other member nations without tuition fees and promote international research programs.	I likes! ParrotMan (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2025 (UTC) Could there be an easier acronym as EUHEEP is kinda long - even EEP? (Keep the full name but just use Education Exchange Programme - EEP - for short) Sjk23 (talk) 11:14, 27 April 2025 (UTC)	ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

Military System

Will the EUOIA have a common army, or have a network of military cooperation? How extensive should this system be? Should this be a Mandatory, or Non-binding Treaty?

Proposal	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Joint Training Initiatives Non-binding	Ominvar (talk) 16:41, 22 April 2025 (UTC)	The EUOIA will arrange joint training sessions between the militaries of countries willing to participate on occasion.	I prefer this option since perhaps some countries with high military capacity want to have autonomy and avoid participating in distant conflicts. DT Planner (talk) 16:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)	(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Mutual protection w/ Joint Training Initatives Mandatory	(+Ominvar) ParrotMan (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)	An add-on to Ominvar's proposal (so there will still be OPTIONAL Joint Training Initatives), but adding on that the EUOIA should include a pledge from each country to protect each other in case of war as a deterrent to possible invasions from outsiders. However, the EUOIA should probably adapt a policy active neutrality should we go down this path.	This option could ignore the fact that there are many EUOIA countries that are very distant from each other and that they preferred not to participate in distant conflicts. Perhaps it would be better to make an optional mutual protection treaty within the EUOIA. DT Planner (talk) 16:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC) I'd still like to urge for a mandatory mutual protection treaty as it prepares the the continent against attacks, especially during the fallout of the Great War. Historically, the EUOIA would not have been stretched to the borders that are as of now, and, although it there is less emphasis on mutual protection nowadays I think it is still important to implement it - ParrotMan (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)	(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 03:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

Common Market

How will the EUOIA's market behave? Should this be a Mandatory, or Non-binding Treaty?

Proposal	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Single Market Economy Mandatory	ParrotMan (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)	The EUOIA historically should be built off of open markets in the first place, especially after repairing the damage after the Great War... Open Markets foster better competition which develops all economies as each country has different needs. This aims to promote economic growth, create jobs, and enhance competitiveness by removing trade barriers and encouraging greater integration among member states. (pretty please :<) (> ?)		(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) Leowezy (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Rasmus Rasmusson (talk) 16:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC) (1) - Axaeve (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC) (2) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.		(1) - Awesomeboy123 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Round #2:

Topics Proposed By: ParrotMan, GreenStumpyMonster, Ominvar, Gubble

Round Start: March 21, 2025

Vote Start: April 4, 2025

Voting Method: STV

Round End: April 11, 2025

Round Status: Closed;

What System of Founding Agreements Shall We Use?

The EUOIA will need to have a founding document, sort of a "constitution". How should this be executed? The previous discussion focused on multiple, different treaty systems.

Proposal	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Pre-EUOIA Free Trade Agreement, succeeded by EUOIA Founding Document	Ominvar (talk) 20:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)	A free trade agreement between some countries in the Darcodian Sea/Gulf of Volta region should precede the modern EUOIA, which will encompass a wider range of nations and will be stronger.		(3) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Souzzzzie (talk) 10:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Pre-EUOIA Free Trade Agreement, succeeded by "basic" EUOIA Founding Document, then have different treaties expanding on founding document.	ParrotMan (talk) 07:15, 23 March 2025 (UTC)	A spinoff of Ominvar's proposal but specifies that the founding document is very basic and additional treaties are tacked on to grant the EUOIA additional powers among members Founding Treaty/Document:This is a treaty that allowed all founding members to join the union. This founding treaty describes the bare, legal framework that gives the EUOIA supranational status. Mandatory Treaties:These treaties are mandatory when joining the EUOIA. The status of such treaties are dictated by the founding treaty. Any amendment to the Founding Document or subsequent Mandatory Treaties are mandatory. All accessions/removals to members of the EUOIA must be done through Mandatory Treaties, for example. Opt-in Treaties: These treaties are optional for members in the EUOIA. Some examples could be a common currency, or free travel.		(2) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Leowezy (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Pre-EUOIA, Great-war era non-aggression, collaborative agreement. Succeeded by EUOIA Founding Agreement.	Gubble (talk) 11:48, 26 March 2025 (UTC)	Originated as a post-war agreement of non-aggression and mutual collaboration for the regeneration of areas damaged by the war. EUOIA Founding Agreement is introduced multiple decades later, loosely linked to and superseding the post-war agreement, including 3-pillars: - Economic Collaboration - Social Collaboration - Security Collaboration		(1) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Distel (talk) 22:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Leowezy (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

How Far Does the Supranational Organization's Powers Go?

The EUOIA, as determined in the previous round of discussions, will be based off a Supranational model. How much power does this umbrella organization get, and what protections can we grant to each individual country to protect sovereignty?

Proposal	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Agreements made in EUOIA are binding, and countries must allocate funding/resources to EUOIA. The EUOIA should have a parliament with delegates from each EUOIA member.	Ominvar (talk) 20:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)	This is somewhat similar to the real-world European Union, and in my opinion, gives the organization sufficient power while protecting state sovereignty.	The area covered by EUOIA is much larger and more diverse than the EU. As such, basing the organisations powers on the EU seems unrealistic.	(3) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 23:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Only the highest decision making organ composed of the national heads-of-state is binding. The majority of agreements deciding among the elective body are non-binding and are more decentralised.	Gubble (talk) 11:48, 26 March 2025 (UTC)	Leans more towards an intergovernmental organisation.		(2) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 23:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Leowezy (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Souzzzzie (talk) 10:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)	🏅
All laws are binding, but only the executive branch can propose laws (comprised of the head of states or persons representing). Bills must pass the legislature with majority. After leaving the EUOIA, the bill must be ratified by the majority of countries' parliaments to become law.	ParrotMan (talk) 15:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)	Essentially here, member countries have a huge, HUGE say on how laws are passed. The executive council is the sole body that can propose laws, the legislature can only serve to approve and amend laws. Member countries get one last chance to vote against the law in their own parliaments.		(1) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 23:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Leowezy (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

Location of Headquarters

The Headquarters of the EUOIA will need to be placed somewhere. Where will we place it, and what procedures will dictate the location of the headquarters?

Topic	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes
Dzenkuku-Utera Metropolitan Area	ParrotMan (talk) 03:42, 22 March 2025 (UTC)	Izaland and I have proposed to make an autonomous zone that stretches from Dzenkuku-Utera to Kimunnay. This area would be perfect for this organization, close to both the Northern and Southern areas of Eastern Uletha. The autonomous zone would also help insulate the EUOIA from favoring one country over the other. The area in question is here, but we have yet to establish such a zone on the map.		(2) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Switzerland Style but with rotations	ParrotMan (talk) 01:16, 23 March 2025 (UTC)	Have the government split up and be placed in different corners of the EUOIA, and such functions be rotated throughout the country after every governmental... voting this option means the next round will have a vote on how the location will be determined.		(3) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (3) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Switzerland Style but no rotations	ParrotMan (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2025 (UTC)	Have the government split up and be placed in different corners of the EUOIA, but the location will be set in stone (nowadays, this is viable as technology progresses)... voting this option means the next round will have a vote of the location of headquarters.		(1) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Leowezy (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Souzzzzie (talk) 10:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.		(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (2) - Leowezy (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

System of Government

How will our government behave (how are laws passed, and what standards must those laws pass?)

Topic	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Four Core Institutions	ParrotMan (talk) 07:15, 23 March 2025 (UTC)	I propose that we have core institutions that maintain the balance of power throughout the EUOIA. These institutions are specified under a "founding document" Legislative Assembly - Legislative Citizens across the EUOIA directly elect the people's assembly and its makeup is proportional to population. The People's Assembly can only pass bills into laws, but can not propose bills. It can override State Commission decisions with a supermajority vote. State Commission - Legislative The State Commission is made up of delegates on the behalf of each member state -- each member state gets two seats. The State Commission can choose to veto or amend laws to be sent back to the Assembly. It can not propose bills or pass bills into law. It approves the makeup of the Court of Justice. Court of Justice - Judicial The Court of Justice serves to EUOIA interpret laws, as well ensuring laws are being interpreted uniformly across the whole union. Executive Council - Executive The Executive Council serves as the sole executive body, comprised of the one delegate from each member state. It is the sole body that can propose laws. Its makeup must be approved by the Legislative Assembly. The leader of the Executive Council, approved by the Assembly, serves as the figurehead of the Union. It proposes the makeup of the Court of Justice. Overall, I'm aiming to balance state power and people's power in here. Member states dictate two-ish out of the four core institutions, and the people directly determine only one. Feel free to ask for clarification or for an amendment to my proposal 😵		(1) - Axaeve (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 01:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Leowezy (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Antoon (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - Souzzzzie (talk) 10:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.		(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Round #1:

Topic Proposed By: [N/A]

Round Start: February 28, 2025

Vote Start: March 14, 2025

Voting Method: STV

Round End: March 21, 2025

Round Status: Closed

What Will EUOIA Stand For?

As brought up in the previous discussion, we might be a little doubtful on what EUOIA stands for. Should we keep it as the Eastern Ulethan Organisation of Independent Allies?

Acronym	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Eastern Ulethan Organisation of Independent Allies	[N/A]	Current iteration of EUOIA.	For me this is still te preferred acronym. Not because it goes back a long time, but for some of the words. With 'organisation' i think of a partnership/agency/group. Also i like the 'independant' as for it's too soon to be part of a federation or even a union like the EU. That's because i don't know what other countries/territories will be part, how developed they are and what principles they have. I have no special preference for the 'allies'-part.Antoon (talk) 10:22, 2 March 2025 (UTC)	(4) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Axaeve (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (4) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Leowezy (talk) 08:34, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Eastern Uletha Open Integration Agreement	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 15:33, 28 February 2025 (UTC)	The Eastern Uletha Open Integration Agreement (EUOIA) is a regional intergovernmental organization aimed at fostering economic, political, and cultural cooperation among its member states. Established in the aftermath of the Great War, EUOIA was conceived as a framework for ensuring stability, economic prosperity, and regional integration across Eastern Uletha. EUOIA is built on three core principles: Open Cooperation – The agreement promotes voluntary participation and collaboration between sovereign nations while respecting national sovereignty. Economic Integration – Member states commit to reducing trade barriers, facilitating the movement of goods, services, and labor, and harmonizing economic policies where beneficial. Cultural and Scientific Exchange – The agreement encourages collaboration in education, research, and cultural initiatives to strengthen the bonds among Eastern Ulethan nations. Key Functions and Policies Single Market & Trade Facilitation – While not a full customs union, EUOIA simplifies trade procedures and fosters economic partnerships. Infrastructure Development – Members work together to improve regional transportation and digital networks. Environmental & Energy Cooperation – Joint initiatives focus on sustainable development and energy security. Mutual Recognition of Standards – In areas like education, certifications, and legal frameworks, member states align policies for easier cross-border mobility.	I like these core principles but I don't know about this acronym 🤔; I also suggest that you amend the first two words to "East Ulethan" as it is more grammatically correct in English :) - ParrotMan (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2025 (UTC) With 'Agreement' i'm more thinking of a document/statement rather then an organisation. Maybe because English isn't my first language. Also i'm not sure if the principles, functions and policies have anything to do with what the EUOIA stands for. I would have thought that to be a different discussion for a later time.Antoon (talk) 10:22, 2 March 2025 (UTC)	(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (4) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Axaeve (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (3) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (4) - DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Leowezy (talk) 08:34, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
East Ulethan Organization for Intergovernmental Accord	ParrotMan (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2025 (UTC)	Hopefully this reflects Izaland's proposed core values as well.	The same as with 'Agreement' i feel that 'Accord' more refers to a document rather then an organisation. But that may well be my lack in the English language. Antoon (talk) 10:22, 2 March 2025 (UTC) Hmm... I can see how that might cause such an implication. I'll propose another one! ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)	(3) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) () - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (5) - DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (4) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
East Ulethan Organization for Intergovernmental Affairs	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)	An iteration of my previous proposal	This one actually sounds the most professional and easy to understand. It is the most logical one, I think. GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 20:03, 9 March 2025 (UTC) "Intergovernmental Affairs" may seem a bit broad and vague, and "affairs" may not have much of a positive connotation. Ominvar (talk) 21:06, 9 March 2025 (UTC)	(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (5) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Axaeve (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (5) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (2) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (5) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Eastern Ulethan Organization of Intergovernmental Associates	ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)	Another iteration of my previous proposal Proposed by Ifgus of Eshein in the previous discussion.	I like this one more, as associates seems nice and formal. Ominvar (talk) 03:43, 11 March 2025 (UTC)	(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (4) - Axaeve (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (1) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

What Sort of Union are We Aiming For?

What kind of union will EUOIA be? Will it be a strictly economic union, militaristic union, political union, or a sort-of mix?

Type of Union	Nominator	Nominator's Notes	Discussion	Votes	🏅
Supranationalism	ParrotMan (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2025 (UTC)	I really like Izaland's proposed core values of EUOIA and I hope that it sticks around, but I also want to see a more extensive approach to the EUOIA. Supranational Unions takes some power from member states to create the conditions that reflect extensive cooperation between member states, such as common markets, economic development, etc... Such unions would also allow member states to collectively have a louder voice on the international stage. This approach is similar to what the European Union is like today. Should we vote this we can determine how strong or weak such a governing organization could be.	I wonder if there should be a parliament for the EUOIA (just like the EU irl) that countries send delegates to? I think we should have only an economic/political union. Ominvar (talk) 21:36, 2 March 2025 (UTC) I would love to see that! But for now, let's determine if such an idea is viable 😅 ParrotMan (talk) 04:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC) On another note, history-wise, we could say that the EUOIA originated as an Intergov't organization which gradually transitioned Supranationalism as geopolitics in the region advances, but I'm getting ahead of myself here. ParrotMan (talk) 02:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)	(1) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Axaeve (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:54, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (1) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)	🏅
Intergovernmental organization	Leowezy (talk) 13:30, 3 March 2025 (UTC)	An intergovernmental organization, like the African Union or the Union of South American Nations, facilitates multilateral agreements between its members, but member states retain more autonomy. Since East Uletha encompasses many different cultural spheres with much looser historical connections than Europe, I think such an approach would be more realistic. Also, within such a framework individual countries are still able to work more closely together on a case-by-case-basis, the other way around is more difficult. Leowezy (talk) 13:30, 3 March 2025 (UTC)	Maybe i can agree on Izaland's values, but will that go for all the members of EUOIA? Also i'm not sure if all countries have similar development ratings. To me it seems this discussion is a bit too soon. But should i have to choose between the two types for now, i choose this one. Antoon (talk) 18:56, 5 March 2025 (UTC)	(3) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Axaeve (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:54, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (2) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Leowezy (talk) 08:34, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (1) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
A mix between an Intergovernmental Organization and Supranationalism	ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC)	Some (but not all) functions would be regulated with a high governing body while still allowing for a higher(ish) level of autonomy in member states with a framework to allow countries to collaborate with a case-by-case basis. This approach would be similar to the European Union in its early days, although probably weaker. We can determine what this looks like specifically in later rounds should we choose this path.		(2) - ParrotMan (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Axaeve (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (3) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:54, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (4) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (1) DT Planner (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Leowezy (talk) 08:34, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (2) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
A cooperation organisation	GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 20:03, 9 March 2025 (UTC)	An organisation in which everyone in theory has an equal say but the member states are voted to have the power to veto on important issues. All members are required to cooperate and also take into interests of smaller states to retain their higher stataus. The countries will be encouraged to help each other with incentives from doing tasks like engaging in trading blocs though this is not necessary but does limit the privilege to be considered as a member state. This ensures some people can keep autonomy as they wish but limits their say if they aren't willing to collaborate. GreenStumpyMonster (talk) 20:03, 9 March 2025 (UTC)	This sounds nice but can you expand on what you're envisioning about here? ParrotMan (talk) 02:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)	(3) - Ominvar (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC) (3) Sjk23 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC) (4) - Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 22:54, 15 March 2025 (UTC) (4) - Antoon (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Reopen proposals	[N/A]	Should you find these options unsatisfactory. This topic will be nullified and be up for discussion/voting in the next round.

🤔 Concerns?

I am confused about some aspects of this post.

• Why exactly is a new post needed, if discussion here already proceeded substantially and the nature of the project has seemingly not changed much? I don't see any downside to why you would not continue there. If the page seems to bloated with old and irrelevant material, you can hide such parts using spoilers for example. But if we start a new post everytime we want to move the direction of a discussion, discussions will fizzle out more.
• Secondly, what is the difference between "Motion to begin EUOIA project" and "Motion to Take Over EUOIA as MSTR is No Longer Regularly Active"?
• Second and a half-ly, even if mstr is no longer active, how and why would someone "take over" a discussion on the forum - you could still just built upon the previous discussion, it doesn't seem to me like any of the material there is only accessible to mstr?
• And lastly, mappers are free to coordinate their bi- or multilateral cooperations anywhere they like, including Discord, the Metaverse, or per carrier pigeon. But it is an established rule that anything that affects other mappers or that claims some form of community-wide validity needs to be discussed and decided on in the forum. That is not a matter of efficiency or ease of use but of transparency and fostering a community where everyone feels (and is) heard.

Please address these points before going into further details. Thanks! Leowezy (talk) 07:33, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

I like the questions of Leowezy being answered too. Last week i received a message from Parrotman with an invitation to the Discord-server, as my territory of Neberly is in East Uletha. Parrotman highly encouraged me to join "as many other mappers use is as a medium for communication and coordination as Eastern Uletha becomes a busier place. For EUOIA stuff, we will continue to post stuff on the forum but most of our decision making will take place on Discord." I'm not a member yet of Discord and i'm not looking for another way to discuss topics in our 'corner of the world'. For me this forum works fine, also as it can be viewed by all Opengeofiction-members and not just the ones getting an invitation. Antoon (talk) 10:45, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Hey guys! Both of you raised very valid points and concerns as I have not clarified some aspects of this post, to which my reply below helps clarify some issues that have emerged.

To reply to Leowezy's questions:

• I did originally want to proceed with the "hiding elements in the previous discussion" idea, but I'm quite new to the wiki and that I didn't know how that would quite work out. If you are able to do that, feel free to delete this page and move everything to the other -- with the expandable feature -- thanks!
• "Motion to Begin EUOIA Project" is to just find a general consensus on whether or not if the majority of those in the region are interested and want to resurrect the EUOIA project; "Motion to Take Over EUOIA as MSTR is No Longer Regularly Active" is to clarify whether or not if we are looking to bring back EUOIA specifically or if we want to make another supranational union, dropping the EUOIA namesake.
• The whole point of a new forum (or per the first question a revived discussion on the old forum) is to rebuild from the ground up, as the needs and requirements of the EU region has fluctuated over the past few years of when the discussion kind of died out. We've seen new countries pop up in this region and recently we have collectively revised the history in the region (which is emerging on the wiki) and I have found that the current working EUOIA doesn't fit as well as it might've before... it might just be easier to scrap everything, and start over again... and recycling some elements from the previous discussion (such as flag ideas, etc...) are already being considered.
• Although I have considered carrier pigeon, wiki forums, and more recently Pictionary as a mode of communication over the topic of EUOIA, for the past few months I have grown a discord server that communicates about mapping, history, and commercial bits in the region and I thought it would be more convenient if we just communicated it through there. Obviously, I didn't consider the transparency and "putting the idea to the rest of the world" aspects until a few days ago when Izaland brought up this concern, which is why I'm pushing the previous Proposals for Communicating and Voting. Obviously, using Discord as the sole means of idea pitching, voting, and discussing is never going to happen, as I do agree that the community shouldn't be gatekept from collaborating in the EUOIA project. However, I do want to determine discord's role in this discussion (e.g., as an auxiliary for discussion?) for this post. However, I think that we can all agree that from now on, anything that is discussed outside of the wiki pertaining to EUOIA will have to be posted on the wiki anyways.

To reply to Antoon's question:

• Firstly, I want to apologize if you were feeling offended in any means -- that was not my intention. This invitation obviously occurred before Izaland's concerns. As per other concerns you have brought up, please read my reply to Leowezy.

Hope to hear from y'all soon! ParrotMan (talk) 15:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

To be honest i think i was a bit annoyed by the way the discord-server was brought on to me. But from the answers and the way this page is revised i take it every decision concerning the EUOIA or it's follow-up will (also) be discussed here in the open, and that's good enough for me. On the whole i quite enjoy the bits of mapping i do, still after over 10 years i'm part of this project. But also it isn't my main priority with things going on in private and work. So i only invest bits of time here and can't do much more then follow what others do and post here. It would be too much for me to follow or take part in discussions on different platforms. Therefore i'm curious to the ideas and discussion that come. Antoon (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I had a look at the old EUIOA page; in fact it not only contained an old (~up to 2024) discussion, but even a pre-2021 discussion which was moved to that page's talk page. This reminds me how long this topic has been going on... Facilitating and finalizing discussion on this topic has clearly been challenging.

May I propose the following before you start on the contentual discussion:

• I do see now how a new forum post might be needed...
  • but please remove the voting on wiki vs discord. Anyone is free to use discord or other means of communication to discuss ideas as they seem fit, but each proposal needs to be spelled out and eventually voted on on the wiki.
  • Please also remove the voting records from the discord discussion. It gives members who are not active on discord the wrong impression that formal parts of the decision making take place there. If there is a wide consensus on specific questions among so many members, it should be easy to reestablish that on-site. Also, I still don't clearly understand the difference between the first two motions, but it might not matter anyway.
  • I have highlighted the link to the past dicussion more prominently at the start of this forum post.
• I would advise (personal opinion) to structure the discussion process a little more clearly. If you already have a proposal agreed upon by a dozen members, spell it out clearly and give non-discord members the opportunity to comment and, if they like, declare they would like to join. Past discussions on EUOIA seem to have failed in my eyes because the discussion dragged on too long, getting deeper and deeper into the details of the inner workings of the union and the regulations it would set before anything concrete was finalised. To avoid this happening a third time, I would advise to start with a "bare minimum" of a union: name; type of union (economic, defense, ...); member states; structure for how further details will be added later (see next point).
• Once an EUOIA (or differently named union) and a list of participating mappers is established, you could then use the treaty system from the past discussion to flesh it out. That system has the benefit that individual member countries might be allowed to opt in or out of treaties as they which, reducing the complexity of discussion and voting by a lot. These treaties could range from defining the union's flag over freedom of movement and trade to defense clauses. But this discussion should probably only start after the "bare minimum" union is up and running, including a dedicated wiki article. Again, this is my personal opinion as a normal member, not as regional admin.

Best, Leowezy (talk) 18:50, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Will do! Thanks for the guidance! 😊 ParrotMan (talk) 23:05, 16 February 2025 (UTC)!

I have corrected the voting guidelines above, since they were not properly corrected to what Leowezy said. Official votes do not take place in full or in part on Discord. It is one thing to have a user commit their territory to the project in an unofficial platform, but official votes that are supposed to be open to the public take place only here for transparency, to be maximally inclusive of those who do not use other platforms, and to avoid confusion. If someone does not have a wiki account, I'm happy to get it set up. All they have to do is send me a message on the OGF messaging system. On another note, votes are typically open or two weeks to allow for participants that do not get online to check the wiki regularly. Cheers. — Alessa _(talk) 17:46, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello Alessa, I will extend the discussion period per your recommendation. However I'd really prefer if we also allow discord as an option for voting as it is more immediate and easier to vote there. There are ways to ensure transparency like providing names or screenshots (in the form of links as I do not want to clog the servers on OGF) and if that is your concern - ParrotMan (talk) 22:03, 3 March 2025 (UTC)