Forum:Global and regional issues/Peichew (formerly Bai Empire)
I'd like to open a discussion (or more of an interest check) about the future of the former Bai Empire. After some considerations, especially since how university stuff is winding down, I've consulted admin regarding whether it's possible to revive the Bai project. The main concerns at the moment, however, is the potential lack of audience and activity, which were among the reasons why the previous iteration of this project had shut down. So, this is a thread to gauge proper interest in reviving the Bai Empire, or Peichew.
我想就前 “百帝国 ”的未来展开讨论（或者说是兴趣调查）。经过一些考虑，尤其是大学的事情已经告一段落，我就是否有可能重启白族项目征求了管理员的意见。不过，目前的主要顾虑是可能会缺乏受众和活跃度，而这正是这个项目上一次迭代关闭的原因之一。因此，本主题旨在评估大家对重振 “百帝国 ”或 “百州 ”的兴趣。
What will the revived project be about?
I've drafted a new collab framework for the project. This time, it is a Teochew-speaking country under a semi-constitutional monarchy. As such, this project is not intended to have any direct parallels to any real-world nation, but rather as an answer to what a functioning, modern oriental empire will be like. It was previous intended to be the Chinese homeland and was Mandarin-speaking, but I decided to rework the project to account for Huaxia.
Like the former Bai Empire, Peichew was once a colonial power with several territories in the East Ulethan and Archantan regions, historically serving as a fierce rival to neighboring Huaxia. The two nations engaged in numerous conflicts over the centuries, with the last war fought in the 1920-30s. While Huaxia transitioned into a socialist republic, Peichew evolved into a constitutional monarchy as it modernised its political system. (In contemporary times, it is widely believed that Peichew and Huaxia enjoy much friendlier relations.)
Today, Peichew maintains significant influence in Northern Archanta and asserts itself as the successor to the First Bai, a historic empire that once unified Huaxia and Peichew. Although Peichew retains several important historical cities of the region, this claim remains a subject of debate. Culturally, geographically, and climatically, Peichew draws strong inspiration from Taiwan and the Chaozhou-speaking regions of Mainland China.
我为项目起草了一个新的合作框架。它是一个半君主立宪制下的潮州语国家。因此，这个项目并不打算与现实世界中的任何国家有任何直接的相似之处，而是要回答一个正常运作的现代东方帝国会是什么样子。
百州曾经是一个殖民国家，在东乌勒（East Uletha）坦和亚昌塔（Archanta）地区拥有多块领土，历史上曾是邻国华夏的劲敌。几个世纪以来，两国发生过多次冲突，最后一次战争发生在 20 世纪 20-30 年代。当华夏过渡到社会主义共和国时，随着政治体制的现代化，百州演变成了君主立宪制。(在当代，人们普遍认为百州和华夏的关系要友好得多）。
如今，百州在北亚昌塔保持着重要的影响力，并宣称自己是第一代百朝的继承者，这个历史帝国曾一度统一了华夏和百州。虽然百州保留了该地区几个重要的历史名城，但这一说法仍存在争议。在文化、地理和气候方面，潮州从台湾和中国大陆潮州语区汲取了大量灵感。
Collaborative framework
The project will be restructured similarly to Collab:Valonne, where parts of the Empire are open for individual users or groups to request as private territories. I plan to give more autonomy for private users and hope to rework the project from the ground-up with broader community consensus, including its history and culture. I admit another failure of the previous project was my rigid top-down approach in handling the project.
该项目的结构将类似于 Collab:Valonne，帝国的部分区域开放给个人用户或团体作为私人领地申请。我计划给予私人用户更多的自主权，并希望在更广泛的社区共识下从头开始重新设计这个项目，包括它的历史和文化。我承认上一个项目的另一个失败之处在于我在处理项目时采取了僵化的自上而下的方法。
Discussion
Hi, glad to see the reburn of Bai, or now Peichew. I'm not the administrator but here are just some of my thoughts as a partial coordinator of Huaxia on the framework of the future collaboration. I don't mean such the framework of Valonne is not good, but it would be important for you to choose the suitable one based on the target participation. I think if Peichew's target mapper is people whose first language is also Chinese, applying Valonne model may cause difficulties for newcomers who aren't familiar with English since they need to fill the application especially when now we couldn't know if it will be active. If the target is not Chinese, that's not a problem.
Also, you mentioned you would like to give more autonomy for private users, which may need more effort to manage on national view. And you may need to think about how would you like to treat vacant area which may cause much disconnection in the country before someone own it. This may be hard, but good luck. Hope we can see a new Peichew soon. ——NM$l (talk) 16:43, 19 April 2025 (UTC)