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Forum:Territory application/TA341 Downsize to TA122

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Territory ID and proposed name
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Withdrawal/Downsizing of Teotiyolcan (TA341) to an expansion of Malacos including TA122 and a small portion of TA114. Discussed with PortCal prior to this formal application.

Physical geography
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The territory of former TA122 is characterized by dense rainforest, with mangroves on the coast and patches of less dense tropical woodland associated with some hillier areas near the Latina border in the west. This is a wet and tropical climate similar to that of Indonesia, Belize/Guatemala, or Gabon. In the portion of TA114, a major river descends from the Latinan Sierra, which extend northwards into the territory and are predominately forested. The sierra is of fairly low elevation (barely any peaks of more than 2000m), and is characterized by cloud forests that catch seaborne moisture. To the west of the sierra is the Teocallan Autonomous Area (see below), which is a highland area characterized by a drier climate, with a mix of forests, woodlands, and grassland, but with a massive preponderance of lakes and marshes and waterways, part of a broader geographical zone that extends into Latina.

Sketch map

Human geography
A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style


As an Ingerish colony, the coastal areas speak Ingerish, with some Castellanese influence from Latina near the border. In the Teocallan Autonomous Area, I intend to adopt a conlang and conculture inspired by a mix of Nahuatl and South American languages and cultures, in part due to the separation from the actual Nahua family in Barzona, and also for ease of mapping. The economic development of this part of Malacos is much lower than the island, and overall the HDI is lower as well. There is relatively little agricultural development (excepting Teocallan), although there is increasing deforestation near the Latina border and around the main river. There is one main Ingerish colonial city on the main river, which has minor port facilities, and there is one main city (Callinatlacan) in Teocallan, as well as a few other large towns. There is very little urban development and no road connection along the coast. The mapping style will draw from various locations, including Indonesia, Gabon, and Central America, to create a unique style to the territory.

Sketch map

History & culture
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The current history of Malacos, very briefly, is that it was an Ingrean colony that was semi-autonomous early on due to the power of the trading families who established themselves in the territory. Eventually it became officially independent in 1887.

The history of the new addition is that it was its own Ingrean colony (perhaps the East Tarephian Tropical Territory or something of the like) that was originally just a claim. It only saw serious colonial settlement occur (around the main river) in the mid-1700s. The colony was settled, in part, to serve as a buffer between the Florescentan and Castellanese colonial nations to the north and south. At some point in the 18th century the Ingreans established official, permanent contact with the kingdom of Teocallan, which was also being reached by Latinan settlers around this time. Like Teotiyolcan, Teocallan is inspired in many ways by the Aztecs, and, after some serious conflict with Castellan/Latina that saw the kingdom defend itself but lose control over many of its tributary kingdoms, the Emperor at the time agreed to accept Ingerish protection in exchange for exclusive trade etc, making Teocallan an Ingerish protectorate. This agreement, though it prevent Castellanese conquest, came with its own problems for Teocallan. Conversely, this was great for the Ingerish as it established a buffer state nominally under their control to prevent further Latinan expansion. Although in the 19th century the Ingerish attempted to violently bring Teocallan further under colonial rule (for resources), they failed for various cultural and geographical reasons to establish settlements or otherwise meaningfully exert lasting control, and so when the Tropical Territory and Malacos were amalgamated upon Malacos gaining independence, Teocallan was nominally part of the new country, but was granted a high degree of autonomy and effectively continues to operate as a country within a country.

Past mapping
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See below for a detailed accounting of the mapping I would like to move from Teotiyolcan and the general location I will be moving it to.

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User:Lithium-Ion | [1] (talk) 07:31, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Discussion
Discussion for clarification & decision


No other mapping will be moved, but this covers most of the detailed mapping or general landcover mapping I've done in Teotiyolcan that I'm still satisfied with. In terms of best moving practice, moving will be done in sub 10,000 object changesets whenever possible and in clearly defined chunks with no mess.

I also want to take this space to comment in general on what this means for my territory ownership. The reason why I'm not just giving up Teotiyolcan is because I do still feel interested in the concept and the mapping style, but the shape, language, and sheer size of the territory is just too much as it is, and so giving up the territory and moving the mapping to an expanded version of one of my existing territories makes sense to me to continue my existing work. The expansion I'm proposing of Malacos is less than a quarter of the area of Teotiyolcan, and having less space and fewer total territories will allow me to focus my activity and actually have a manageable "load" of mapping - one major territory (Mardoumakhstan), one mid-size territory (Malacos), and two small territories (Iscu and Maka), all of which I have remained very committed to over the past two, three, or six years. I'm happy to take on deletion of all Teotiyolcan-related material from the wiki. Thanks very much for your consideration! --User:Lithium-Ion | [3] (talk) 07:31, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

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