Forum:Territory application/UL17h - Şeren

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	Territory ID and proposed name
	The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country

UL17h^∈^⊾ - Şeren

	Physical geography
	An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. It is advised to also create a sketch, you can add a link to this (hosted on imgur or similar)

Şeren is a state located in Western Uletha covering about 16000 kmsq (without the cut-off part). I would like to also get it cut into two parts, with one getting annexed into Suria. The nation would be mostly covered by high-plains and the main river would be Tsiteli

The other (blank) part of UL17h, is to be annexed into Suria. (https://imgur.com/a/hm3bduT)

	Human geography
	A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style

Şeren could have a population of about 3-5M, and the capital will be named later on. It will speak a Turkic-Romanian-Georgian conlang, and it will use the latin script.

The mapping style will be similar to Demirhan or Qennes.

Infrastructure

There are many major roads (such as motorways), that make up around 40% of the road link. There's a railway spanning through the central part of Şeren, connecting most cities.

	History & culture
	A brief description of the intended culture and language

The culture could be a mix of Georgian and Turkish, and the language is a Turkish-Romanian-Georgian conlang as i said.

	Past mapping
	To support your request provide links to areas of OGF mapping which showcase your mapping skill. Mapping relevant to the requested theme & geography is especially useful
	The {{coord}} template can optionally be used to link to the OGF map - it results in a nice formatted link. Or you can paste in a URL.

WIP Capital City of Lithe: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/56.4512/62.6440&layers=5

Mountainous terrain: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=9/56.3873/59.9469&layers=5

Farmland mapping in OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/56.67973/24.23005

A Georgian-styled large village, that is in the style that I will map in Seren: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/56.6418/60.4223&layers=B

I'm always open to suggestions for new mapping!

Note: I would like to exchange Lithe for this territory!!

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Petons (talk) 19:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

	Discussion
	Discussion for clarification & decision

Hello, Petons. Thank you for the application. Before continuing, there are two things to address. First, you recently received Lithene only 7 weeks ago. Please let us know why you're interested in leaving that territory for a new one? Chronic territory hopping is very strongly discouraged, so if a move is approved, you will be asked to not request another swap for some time. Please be sure that you really want to do this as a more long-term project. Second, I cannot access the Discord links, and they are (more importantly) not available for public viewing and comment. Please either upload them to the wiki or somewhere else that is public without a login. Thank you. — Alessa _(talk) 23:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

- Hello. I have a feeling that Lithene is too big for me to handle, and Seren would be a much better size for me (I've discussed with Bixelkoven about this). Seren could also be more fun for me to map, since I'm not Turkic, and it's boring to make a latvian-styled country. I'm going to upload a little more past mapping, and I've changed the links to imgur. Cheers! — Petons (talk) 15:05, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

- Thank you for providing a working image link for me. I am going to defer to Bixelkoven (the other West Uletha admin) on this one for the ultimate decision, since he has territories in the immediate region. This has a greater impact on him, so I will trust his judgement on the matter of the culture, relocation, and territory split. I have no objections otherwise. Cheers. — Alessa _(talk) 17:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Territory application approved

Approved. Still plenty of room for improvement, but I reward hard work. Please refrain from exchanging territories or doing any requests in the future until you are satisfied with the completion rate in UL17h. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 12:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

I won't dive into the details since you are contacting me privately about mapping tips. The Georgian mapping you have provided is quite good. I've observed your previous mapping progress and my biggest concern is your tendency to redo your mapping over and over again, my suggestion is to limit that and try adding more mapping instead. There are underlying issues still but overtime you will master it and I will gladly assist you alongside the rest of the community. For the Turkish influence part of your culture it is wise to contact users ante44 and Rustem Pasha to discuss how they connect in that aspect.