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Rozważania nad nową nazwą państwa Nazwa Lechia ma problem z brakiem oryginalności – jest to słowo powszechnie używane w języku polskim i stanowi alternatywne, eufemistyczne określenie Polski. Od tego terminu wywodzą się także nazwy Polski w niektórych językach wschodnioeuropejskich, takich jak krymskotatarski i turecki, gdzie używa się formy Lehistan. Z tego powodu uznałem za zasadne rozpocząć rozważania nad zmianą nazwy. Poniższa strona dyskusyjna ma charakter konsultacji społecznych. Zapraszamy wszystkich – nie tylko czynnych uczestników projektu – do zgłaszania propozycji nowej nazwy. Prosimy o krótki zarys etymologiczny oraz propozycję tłumaczenia nazwy na język angielski. Z góry dziękujemy wszystkim, którzy zechcą zaangażować się w dyskusję.

Język polski

Reflections on a new name for the State The name Lechia suffers from a lack of originality – it is a commonly used word in the Polish language and serves as an alternative, euphemistic term for Poland. This term also forms the basis of the name for Poland in several East European languages, such as Crimean Tatar and Turkish, where the form Lehistan is used. For this reason, I have deemed it appropriate to begin considering the idea of changing the name. This discussion page is intended as a platform for public consultation. We invite everyone – not just active participants in the project – to submit their proposals for a new name. Please include a brief etymological outline and a suggestion for translating the name into English. We extend our thanks in advance to all who choose to engage in the discussion.

English language

Olejowy (talk) 17:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Propozycje / Suggestions

Lp. No.	Propozycja Suggestion	Wersja angielska English version	Nazwy mieszkańców Demonym	Etymologia Etymology	Autor pomysłu Author of the idea
1.	Lemina	Leminia	Leminians	It can be considered that the root Lemi- comes from the hypothetical Proto-Velitic word lěmъ, which could have meant edge - what refers to the eastern coast	Olejowy (talk)
2.	Lemigalia	Lemigalia	Lemigalians	It can be considered that the root Lemi- comes from the hypothetical Proto-Velitic word lěmъ, which could have meant edge. The suffix -galia could derive from the Proto-Velitic word golъ, which meant bare, naked, without trees, and could refer to open spaces.	Olejowy (talk)
3.	Lemiłgawa	Lemilgava	Lemilgavans	It can be considered that the root Lemi- comes from the hypothetical Proto-Velitic word lěmъ, which could have meant edge. The suffix '-łgawa' could be a combination of the Proto-Velitic word lugъ, which meant meadow, wetland (as in the word łęg, referring to a marshy area), and the ending -awa, typical for river names.	Olejowy (talk)
4.	Lacja	Lacia	Lacians	From Oldpolish word lacki (polish, catholic).	Lankusiek (talk)
5.	Nowakia	Novakia	Novakian	As I known nothing about polish language, I took a look in Google and seems loke Nowak is the most popular surname in Poland. I tried to created something like "Nowak's land". Yes, I got an OGF-country using this name in south Tarephia, but surely I would change it if you choose this name, as I seems to fit better in current Lechia than in south Tarephia.	BMSOUZA (talk) 13:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
6.	Zetrwalia	Zetrwalia	Zetrwalians	From zetrwać (przetrwać, wytrzymać, wybyć — survive, endure, get through), and the ending –lia. Final form can be modified	Lankusiek (talk)
7.	Zawikłynia	Zaviklynia	Zaviklynians	Literal translation could be "The country beyond the rift" referring to the passage of the Velitic peoples through the rift. From za- (beyond), wnik or wnitek (ciasne przejście — tight passage) or wnikły (wgłębiony — recessed), however, the letter n has disappeared, and additionally the ending –nia.	Lankusiek (talk)
8.	Kołenska	Colne / Kolna / Kolenia	Kolnians / Kolenians	Uncertain etymology, some ideas: - from Proto-Velitic kòlъ ((wooden) stake, sudis (Roman defensive object (uncertain))); - from Proto-Velitic koltъ (to gouge, create a hole); - from Proto-Velitic kolesьnъ (wheel); - from Proto-Velitic kolěno (knee)	Bixelkoven (talk)
9.	Łenska	Lenn / Lenia / Lenardia	Lennish / Lenians / Lennards(?) /Potential derivatives: Lenard (The Lenard Order)	Uncertain etymology, some ideas: - from len (linen, flax); - from Proto-Uletarephian word *leǵ- (to gather, to collect) -> *leǵ-no-m (that which is collected); - from Proto-Velitic *lěnь (lazy)	Bixelkoven (talk)
10.	Ignarchia	Ignarchia	Ignarchian	It derives directly from the Latin word ignis, meaning fire.	Olejowy (talk)
11.	Zasokocja / Zachocja	Zasocosia / Zachosia	Zasocosians / Zachosians	Uncertain etymology. Uncle Google said that cleft/chasm (polish: szczelina) is socors in latin, but it is rather not.	Lankusiek (talk)
12.	Wietacja / Wełtacja / Wełtycja	Vietacia / Vetacia / Velitacia / Veliticia	Vietacians / Vetacians / Velitacians / Veliticians	Uncertain etymology. Could be from the name of the Wietaci/Wełtyci (Vietati/Vieti/Velti/Velitic?) tribe, and that from Proto-Velitic vějati (wiać — to blow) or věťati (wiecać, mówić — to say). It would mean, there where the wind blows or/and those who say.	Lankusiek (talk)
13.	Bobrycja	Bobricia	Bobricians	not really a serious entry just bober	Mie (talk

Dyskusja / Discussion

For my proposals, I've noted only the root words for the names, the actual stories and how the names formed and changed overtime can be derived from those, but I didn't want to overfill the table with lots of text. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 11:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Wybór nazwy / Selection of a name

Na propozycje czekamy do 13 października, do godziny 20:00. Wówczas planujemy zorganizować na discordzie dyskusję, której celem będzie wybór nazwy. Do udziału w głosowaniu zapraszamy użytkowników polskojęzycznych. Po głosowaniu zostanie umieszczony tutaj protokół z głosowania

We are waiting for proposals until October 13th, at 8:00 PM. At that time, we plan to organize a discussion on Discord, aimed at selecting a name. We invite Polish-speaking users to participate in the voting. After the voting, the voting report will be posted here.

Olejowy (talk) 12:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Voting report

On October 13, 2024, at 8:00 PM, on the Opengeofication Discord server, among the Polish-speaking users, we began a discussion about changing the name of the country. Ultimately, each participant submitted five top names, which corresponded to points from 5 to 1. A total of 5 people voted. The final results are as follows:

1. Wełtycja - 19
2. Kołeńska - 13
3. Lemiłgawa - 8
4. Lemigalia - 8
5. Ignarchia - 6
6. Zasokocja - 6
7. Zetrwalia - 5
8. Zawikłynia - 4
9. Wietacja - 3
10. Wełtacja - 2
11. Zachocja - 1

The voting deadline passed on October 14, 2024, at 8:00 PM. No veto was submitted. The significant lead of the winning name gives us grounds to believe in the general acceptance of the chosen name.

Olejowy (talk) 18:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)