Forum:Territory application/UL08e - Atrèbas
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 | Territory ID and proposed name |
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| The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country |
UL08e - Atrèbas
I would be happy with the northern half of UL08e (see sketch below)
 | Physical geography |
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| An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. It is advised to also create a sketch, you can add a link to this (hosted on imgur or similar) |
A large West-European style physical country, with a comparable physical geography based on Germany and France.
- Climate is temperate: temperate marine in the west, temperate continental in the east.
Topography:
- large coastal lowlands and river valleys dominate in the West starting at the Morcanol Bay make up for excellent agriculture land
- aligning with the neighboring countries, a large Alpine mountain chain dominates the eastern parts
- rolling hills at the footslopes of those Alpine mountains stretch to the border region with Brennland and others
- an interior plain in the middle of the country is located at some altitude (400-500 m) and features a continental temperate climate which makes it different from the coastal lowlands (maybe more heathland and less forests - to be developed)
sketch: https://imgur.com/yXdiTiM
 | Human geography |
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| A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style |
Human geography wise, Atrèbas is also a Western-Europe style country.
- It has a HDI of 0.89/0.9. Overall the west and central plain are more developed then the other parts.
- the countries economy and infrastructure is centralized around two large cities: the large capital near the sea (along a river probably), and a central metropolitan city in the central plains
- the western lowlands are rich agricultural lands, dominated by small cities and villages. There is a dense infrastructure network and a high HDI.
- the central plain is less suited for agriculture, and features a combination of agriculture, heathland, forests, marshes, ... It has one big central city and many small villages.
- the hilly lands and mountains are largely covered by natural vegetation. Large lakes occupy some over deepened glacial valleys. Small mountain villages survive from tourism, specialized agriculture (cheese) or mining activities.
Mapping style:
- Atrèbas will partially be a tribute to social geography, and I will map some social geography basic features:
- different village styles in different regions (nuclear, round, elongated, spread out, ...) give each region its own typical landscape
- I will also map according to some of the old fashioned settlement pattern theories, with different ranks of cities-villages-hamlets
- I do not intent to micro-map, which is anyway impossible to do for such a territory. Instead I would like to implement a ~Ingerland kind of style, although I would like to put more detail in historic city centers
 | History & culture |
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| A brief description of the intended culture and language |
Atrèbas will combine IRL Germanic and Latin cultures in one country (similar to Switzerland or Belgium):
- Dutch-like-con-language and culture in the West (aligning with the location of Lentië and Welstand-Westrijk)
- French or French-like-con-language in the East, aligning with the proposed culture for the country and Franqueterre
A detailed history has to be set up later, but look at Atrèbas as a OGF version of what-could-have-been Burgundy: a mighty Duchy that is spread out over several medieval states and that has a complicated relationship with its feodal ruler. At the end of the feudal period (1790s) it can somehow break free from the feudal overlords in Franqueterre (and Lentië?) and form a new country. Forming a new country in this period means setting up a (for that time) modern legislative framework, which enables innovation and makes Atrèbas one of the early industrializing countries. In the late 1800s it undertakes some semi successful colonizing attempts, but all colonies become independent before 1960.
 | Past mapping |
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- historic city center of Witzandmond (loosely Malaga based, with some Cape Town influences maybe) : https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/32.5714/162.0324&layers=B
- Rural landscapes: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/32.8623/162.4666&layers=B
- more rural areas: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/30.1676/161.0096&layers=B
- no-detail-mapping of rural areas: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/32.0822/161.6002&layers=B
- capital city: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=13/31.4075/161.0105&layers=B
I would agree on abandoning my current territory
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Fayaan (talk) 11:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 | Discussion |
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| Discussion for clarification & decision |
- Hey, thanks for the great request. However, your current mapping does not yet show much European-style urban mapping and the sketch is not detailed enough/off-scale regarding the size of the territory. You can maybe try to join the Lentia collaborative project to practice your European-style mapping first? --Stjur (talk) 21:14, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Stjur, as my current territory was created at the breaking up of Commonia (and I originally was not made aware of the Asian style, but actually planned a Cape/South African style) off course most mapping of urban regions is not European style. I do not feel comfortable in a collaborative project. But let me add some examples of European style city centers I anyway developed:
- the city center of Fayaan City is largely inspired by European style cities (although suburbs or the southern parts are indeed more new world style) with also a very big (see it as an oversized champs Elysées) avenue which is inspired by the late 19th century city renewal projects in many EU project. The Bai quarter is actually inspired by the 'city-within-a-city' principle of the Beguinages of Netherlands, Belgium and France, although much larger.
- the historical center of Witzandmond is largely inspired by some Spanish cities, such as Malaga or St Cruz de La Palma. You can see the old-harbor-turned-into-a-park (~Malaga) and in front of it a new harbor, a walled city center (actually a designed it as having two walls, as the city grew), an old fortress on a hill, a large area with square streets that was build on reclaimed land somewhere in the 19th C and with a big park, ....
- some smaller cities are also inspired on Europe: Noordkaap is largely based on some IRL Atlantic Island cities; Zonnevliet was an experiment based on IRL Dutch fortress cities like Naarden, Zierikzee, or Sluis
- this tidal flatland area is based on the Danish/German/Dutch Wadden Sea area. That was actually a mapping exercise I had much fun with.
- and finally I have trying to develop an own 'national' style for suburbs (like IRL most countries have their own style of urban planning) like here, where you will certainly recognize some styles of German planned cities or the Dutch planned cities in the Flevoland
- If these examples are good enough as a portfolio I would be happy to make a more detailed sketch, although I could use some advice on which software to use and maybe an example of which detail you require. If they are not good enough, I would be understanding and work on an additional portfolio (I was anyhow planning to give this area a mixed colonial French style) Fayaan (talk) 09:27, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, for requesting a territory in West Uletha, urban mapping should show that you understand historical development of cities - how/where has the city development started, in which directions has it spread and why, what is the clear hierarchy in your street grids etc. Landscape mapping, especially when you request a big territory, should show that you understand how to lay out and work with topography. Detailing is less important to me, it's more important to have a strong base structure for your work. If you don't like working in collab territories, you can also use blue territories to show mapping examples --Stjur (talk) 15:41, 19 March 2022 (UTC)