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UL19b-Østland In Østlandic : Kongerniskünt Østland  In Inuktitut: ᑭᖕᑕᒻ ᐱᖓᓐᓇᖅᐸᓯᖕᒥᑦ ''Pingangnanga'' ''Nunait'' ''Kingtam''
 
N/A - West Uletha - Kalkara (In Maltese)


{{territory application physical geography}}
{{territory application physical geography}}
The majority of the southern part of the territory it’s taiga with small mountain ranges that reach up to 1200m, in the north of the country there are glaciers and most of the land is tundra with a very rugged coastline full of fjords, meanwhile the center of the country is very mountainous, thanks to the Hjörsk mountain range, in which there are glaciers in which most of the country's rivers are born.


{{territory application human geography}}
CLIMATE


The population of Østland is mainly concentrated in the southern part of the country, having the 90%  of the population, the north of the country only have the 6% of the population.  
The climate of Kalkara is a Csa or a Csb climate as defined by the Köppen climate classification. The nation receives up to 500mm of precipitation per year, and is drier due to the eastern mountains of Mazan blocking westerly winds that would have otherwise changed the climate by some degree.
The total population of Nordland is 1,015,000 people, 90% of the population are Østlandic, 8% are inuktitut and the rest 2% are minorities: Jewish,Chukchi, Lechians almost others.
The southern part are majority an agriculture land, which most of the cities (Määddihämn, Marjarvi, Kongardsgäv, Rupsâdborg, etc) , Including the capital (Jöhksvard) are located, and the center are majority empty because the mountains and the volcanoes, that makes the area so difficult to inhabitated, and the north of the country are so cold, so all the products are imported of the south, and the hunt of whales, fish and seales are so important to the economy of the area. Also in the latest 70 years the economy dependent on fishing and hunting continuously transformed to an economy based on services (especially banking) and geothermal and hydroelectric energy, as well as advances in technology, becoming a leader in programming and companies, that represent the 5% of the country incomes.  


Map:
GEOLOGY
https://www.flickr.com/photos/196652055@N08/52384721298/in/dateposted-public/
Purple lines: Subdivisions borders
Orange lines: Important Roads, Black Points Cities with more than 8.000


Map of all the settlements that have more than 800 population https://www.flickr.com/photos/196652055@N08/52498467890/in/dateposted-public/ If the dot is larger, the population in the settlement will be more.
Due to the plate tectonics in the region as well as an orogenic belt, the islands were raised from the sea floor over millions of years. Composed of limestone which is where the nation gets its name, the islands of the Kalkaran Chain are rich in resources contributing to the economic development of the nation in the past and in the present, notably copper and coal.
{{territory application history and culture}}
The establishment of population in Nordland dates back to 2000 years ago with the Sirmirmiutat culture (ancestors of the Inuktitut) who populated the lands until the arrival of Nordic-Finns/Uralic settlers in the south, so the indigenous population had to migrate north, and later there was a war for mineral resources that lasted about 20 years, which ended with a peacefull treaty, the Nordics flourished and settled throughout Nordland, except in the north. Later the kingdom of Nordland was formed after becoming independent from Ruoguovvás by the descendants of the Nordic and Finns/Uralic Settlers that formed a culture in a period named the Blue Revolution (Allit Revolušjon) in 1796, 30 years after independence.


The Ostlandic language its a conlang beetween the Septentrional Sami, the Finn language, and the Norwegian language, despite this it is always considered a Finno-Ugric language, so the language its aglutinant and have some influences of Ruoguovvás and the west part of UL19a.
TOPOGRAPHY


{{territory application past mapping}}
Quite mountainous, the nation is stretched from small islands near Mazan to the main island of Kalkara located near the nation of Almahrus. The highest mountain is located on the southern end of the main island and is roughly 480m tall. 65% of the total land is arable, with agriculture present. There are small streams, but no major rivers, fed from small springs and from the ocean.


Puerto Rendecón
See this graphic roughly delineating the land and sea borders of the nation. (The territory currently has no territory code as the land must first be raised from the ocean.): https://i.imgur.com/sIHUMdw.png<nowiki/>{{territory application human geography}}


https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-27.0175/167.3947
DEMOGRAPHICS


Ashgali Village
The national population is mostly homogenous, with 93% identifying as Kalkaran, however this number may be mistaken due to the policies of the Kalkaran government. The remaining 7% identify as Mazanic, as well as people from nations like Ingerland, Navenna, Alnahrus, Castellán, and more. The total population is around 500,000 people across the nation. 95%-97% have fluency or proficiency in the Kalkaran language (which is Maltese).


https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-25.6981/168.1369
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT


Providence lake and Teruel River
Kalkara is a mostly developed nation, with some areas more underdeveloped, such as the outer islands. The economy is heavily based on resource extraction, namely in lime and copper production. Fishing is also an important industry of the island, occurring more in the outer islands as well as a small portion of it in the southern reaches of the main island. A smaller agricultural industry exists, however it is used to provide for the people of the nation and not as an export. The nation is dependent on other neighbouring nations for resources such as steel. The nation's GDP is around $25-27 billion Universal Standard Dollars, and is classified as an advanced economy.


https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-26.1313/165.6359
LAND OCCUPATION


Sierra de Bucanca (In colaboration with other users)
The main island is mostly covered in urban area as well as meadows and pastures. To a minor extent, forests and wetlands are present, in addition to small patches of agricultural use area.


https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-26.8945/167.452
See this graphic depicting land usage on the main island: https://i.imgur.com/RlxpWGI.png


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INFRASTRUCTURE


'''DT Planner'''-18/09/2022
A mesh of highways, motorways, and ferries connect the country from island to island. The largest concentration of this network is located on Kalkara Island, where a network of roads connects the island together. The nation’s only railway is located here, running north to south inside the urban corridor. The nation’s only international airport is located on the main island, connecting the nation to the rest of the world by air as well as connecting it domestically, as two smaller domestic airports are located in the outer islands. Ferries are a large part of the transportation network in Kalkara, as ferries run regularly between each island in addition to ferries to Mazan and Castellán. The nation gets energy from solar and wind power, as well as smaller coal plants and a handful of thermal plants. Tourism and trade contribute to infrastructure development in the nation in addition to mineral extraction.


{{territory application discussion}}
See this graphic showing the road network of the main island: https://i.imgur.com/HRdJhx1.png
Please tell me more features to improve.


MAPPING STYLE


The style that will be used is that of a Mediterranean one. Using inspiration from Malta itself as well as other, similar settlements in the region, Kalkara should in some form resemble one of these Mediterranean nations.{{territory application history and culture}}


Hello DT Planner.
HISTORY


I am Liadrien, mapper of Ruoguovvás. Looking through your application, I am hopeful about your request but have a few pointers or critiques for you as the primary neighbor of the territory.
* 100 BC-400 AD: Kalkara is a part of the OGF:Roman Empire.
* 400-750 AD: A lack of governance occurs following the exit of the OGF:Roman Empire, followed by a period of relative instability.
* 750-800 AD: The islands are annexed by Mazan.
* 1200-1300 AD: Following a crusade to kick Mazan out of Castellán, Navenna takes control over the nation and incorporates it as the Navennese Domain of Kalkara.
* 1600 AD: During the Plevian-Navennese war, in which Navenna resisted Plevian annexation of the nation, Kalkara proclaimed independence with foreign backing.
* 1605 AD-Present: Kalkara remains an independent sultanate.


language.
LANGUAGE


The inclusion of icelandic as primary language is not optimal, it does already exist in Norðurland, and even though EMKLI is currently inactive, it creates questions such as how that language got there. There are no other mentions of Nordic languages in the area around the great north sea. It's not a deal breaker, examples of this exists in other parts of the OGF world and I always preach that, 'as long as the mapper enjoys mapping, and does so actively, any language is good' but to further your chances, I would suggest looking into alternative languages. The area has before been cited as 'prefferably Siberian cultures/languages ' but I cannot remember when or where this was said.
The sole official language of Kalkara is Kalkaran. Minority languages are unrecognised and hold no rights in the nation due to strict linguistic laws prohibiting extensive usage of these tongues


About your inclusion of Inuktitut. There is currently little to no grounds for American languages in Uletha, on the same basis, it creates questions. There are languages in Archanta related to Inuktitut, and nothing of the sort in Uletha. I would suggest a native Siberian language if you believe you can pull that off. Your best bet if you want some kind of American theme, may be a conlang of some sort, I have been using the conlang Áardic in Northern Ruoguovvás, which uses sámi structure and vocabulary with Kallaalisut phonemes. I would greatly appreciate it if you were to include a related language to your territory. If you want to validate your request, using an already established language would certainly help.
POLITICS


History
Kalkara is a highly nationalistic absolute monarchy (a sultanate) under the House of Serpina, installed after independence from Navenna in the early 1600s. The country is growing increasingly more autocratic, with the current ruler, Sultan Oskar Serpina, wielding more and more control over public services and day to day amenities of the people. {{territory application past mapping}}


I find your inclusion of Ruoguovvás a bit strange. Ruoguovvás does not have a wiki page as of yet so you'd be forgiven for assuming, but I do not see Ruoguovvás as ever having been on that side of the Iðitbeaivimearra. Ruoguovvás is a diverse union of arctic historic herding and fishing cultures, and is quite recent in terms of Uletha. If you want to go with the 'tyrannic overlord' theme, I'd suggest citing UL19a instead. Even if it in general isn't the best theme to go with.
PAST MAPPING


The Vikings of OGF have been referenced before, but to my knowledge never in this area. Often being seen as part of the Vinn sea. It would be a strange inclusion of seafaring raiders if nobody in the area mentions them. It may be beneficial to forgo the 'vikings' term as that brings a lot of assumptions and instead refer to something else. As previously mentioned, Nordic cultures are not really referenced in this area.
* Pŕens Elva, GTK: <nowiki>https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-46.5862/65.5484&layers=B</nowiki>
* Aveto Municipality, Qennes. An example of a more Mediterranean style of mapping.: <nowiki>https://opengeofiction.net/#map=17/39.62292/84.21223&layers=B</nowiki>
* Kurni, GTK: <nowiki>https://opengeofiction.net/#map=13/-46.3844/65.3083&layers=B</nowiki>
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Physical geography
[[User:KAB|KAB]] ([[User talk:KAB|talk]]) 10:54, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


I like that you see the area as very cold. Previous mappers in the area have not, and I hope you share the image that UL19b is no place for freeways, and the north should perhaps have no roads whatsoever. I like the idea of the tundra and the relatively low, presumably old mountains seem perfect for the area. If anything, perhaps Taiga could be a smaller part of the territory and the tundra be the majority? Seems reasonable for the latitude.
{{territory application discussion}}
 
Population
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I appreciate your population being relatively low. But for a country located almost entirely north of the Arctic Circle, in a part of the world where seeing the effects of a 'gulf stream' seems woefully unlikely, I find your estimate of 3 million people to be very high. I would find 1 million to perhaps be a high estimate. Keep in mind that agriculture is mostly impossible at this latitude. in addition, I would assume maybe the vast majority of the population to be in the far far south. Even more so than 75%
 
The name
 
In summary, perhaps a slight reimagining of the cultures would be beneficial. Western Siberian would be my suggestion. And in general, perhaps adapt the plan a bit more to the intense climate. Lower population etcetera. Perhaps another that could help you is doing some research on the nearby countries. ask yourself the question, how does this country relate to Ruoguovvás? To Lechia? To UL19a? In addition, it may be good to prove that you are able to map on a larger scale as well, something you'll have to do a lot in UL19b.
 
I wish you the best of luck and hope to see you in the future!
 
Hi, Liadrien, I will change the language to faroese, and the taiga its only in the southeast part, the population will change to 850000 people, 60% faroese, 35% inuktitut, and 4% chuckchi and 1% yakuts, the name will change to østland (East land) and I think its better to change the history to a colony of Ruoguovvás that have a peacefull independence in a treaty, or something like that, and i am intetresting of the faroese, because is a language that is unique and my country is based in Vinland.
 
-Liadrien/Amadeus
 
*Hello DT Planner, thank you for your application, and thank you Amadeus for you comments. (You can both sign comments by typing ~ four times, by the way). My comments:
**The physical geography is appropiate to the location and regional concept, though providing a sketch is highly encouraged. The same goes goes for human geography.
**The history incorporates elements of native and foreign influences with an interesting back-and-forth. Of course, relevant historic events should be coordinated with neighbours, but I see that is already taking place ;)
**Your past mapping so far lacks some larger scale natural features, which are central to the territory's theme. In UL19b, you woulnd't get to map a lot of cities, instead the climate (as you rightfully describe it) would mostly demand a very nature-oriented mapping style.
*May I suggest the following: you and Liadrien could continue your discussion for a little bit (either here on the forum or on private messages), and you can update the proposal with the new info later. In the meantime, try to practice mapping some large-scale natural features (for me, personally, this is the most challenging aspect of mapping; so don't see this as a test of skill, more of a test for whether you enjoy this kind of mapping). I realise we don't really have any arctic blue territories. I'll therefore carve out a testing area in UL19b titled "DT Planner Testing Area" where you can experiment a little. We can then revisit your territory application in a month or two. Please let me know if you'd like this way forward. Cheers! [[User:Leowezy|Leowezy]] ([[User talk:Leowezy|talk]]) 17:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
[[User:DT Planner|DT Planner]] ([[User talk:DT Planner|talk]]) 19:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Yes, please, Its better for me practising some more natural features, specially the larger ones: like a glacier, or a taiga.


Actualization: The Ostlandic language will be a mix with the norwegian, faroese, and the inuktitut, and I think that the language will be aglutinant, also the political system will be a parlamentary monarchy.


Hi, I'm doing very well in the testing area, so I ask when my application process will be revisited? You can take all the time if you want.


Also i want like in 5-6 months after developing my territory (if I can have it) expand to UL19ak, and make it an autonomous republic but is it possible if this is reserved territory?


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N/A - West Uletha - Kalkara (In Maltese)

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CLIMATE

The climate of Kalkara is a Csa or a Csb climate as defined by the Köppen climate classification. The nation receives up to 500mm of precipitation per year, and is drier due to the eastern mountains of Mazan blocking westerly winds that would have otherwise changed the climate by some degree.

GEOLOGY

Due to the plate tectonics in the region as well as an orogenic belt, the islands were raised from the sea floor over millions of years. Composed of limestone which is where the nation gets its name, the islands of the Kalkaran Chain are rich in resources contributing to the economic development of the nation in the past and in the present, notably copper and coal.

TOPOGRAPHY

Quite mountainous, the nation is stretched from small islands near Mazan to the main island of Kalkara located near the nation of Almahrus. The highest mountain is located on the southern end of the main island and is roughly 480m tall. 65% of the total land is arable, with agriculture present. There are small streams, but no major rivers, fed from small springs and from the ocean.

See this graphic roughly delineating the land and sea borders of the nation. (The territory currently has no territory code as the land must first be raised from the ocean.): https://i.imgur.com/sIHUMdw.png

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DEMOGRAPHICS

The national population is mostly homogenous, with 93% identifying as Kalkaran, however this number may be mistaken due to the policies of the Kalkaran government. The remaining 7% identify as Mazanic, as well as people from nations like Ingerland, Navenna, Alnahrus, Castellán, and more. The total population is around 500,000 people across the nation. 95%-97% have fluency or proficiency in the Kalkaran language (which is Maltese).

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

Kalkara is a mostly developed nation, with some areas more underdeveloped, such as the outer islands. The economy is heavily based on resource extraction, namely in lime and copper production. Fishing is also an important industry of the island, occurring more in the outer islands as well as a small portion of it in the southern reaches of the main island. A smaller agricultural industry exists, however it is used to provide for the people of the nation and not as an export. The nation is dependent on other neighbouring nations for resources such as steel. The nation's GDP is around $25-27 billion Universal Standard Dollars, and is classified as an advanced economy.

LAND OCCUPATION

The main island is mostly covered in urban area as well as meadows and pastures. To a minor extent, forests and wetlands are present, in addition to small patches of agricultural use area.

See this graphic depicting land usage on the main island: https://i.imgur.com/RlxpWGI.png

INFRASTRUCTURE

A mesh of highways, motorways, and ferries connect the country from island to island. The largest concentration of this network is located on Kalkara Island, where a network of roads connects the island together. The nation’s only railway is located here, running north to south inside the urban corridor. The nation’s only international airport is located on the main island, connecting the nation to the rest of the world by air as well as connecting it domestically, as two smaller domestic airports are located in the outer islands. Ferries are a large part of the transportation network in Kalkara, as ferries run regularly between each island in addition to ferries to Mazan and Castellán. The nation gets energy from solar and wind power, as well as smaller coal plants and a handful of thermal plants. Tourism and trade contribute to infrastructure development in the nation in addition to mineral extraction.

See this graphic showing the road network of the main island: https://i.imgur.com/HRdJhx1.png

MAPPING STYLE

The style that will be used is that of a Mediterranean one. Using inspiration from Malta itself as well as other, similar settlements in the region, Kalkara should in some form resemble one of these Mediterranean nations.

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HISTORY

  • 100 BC-400 AD: Kalkara is a part of the OGF:Roman Empire.
  • 400-750 AD: A lack of governance occurs following the exit of the OGF:Roman Empire, followed by a period of relative instability.
  • 750-800 AD: The islands are annexed by Mazan.
  • 1200-1300 AD: Following a crusade to kick Mazan out of Castellán, Navenna takes control over the nation and incorporates it as the Navennese Domain of Kalkara.
  • 1600 AD: During the Plevian-Navennese war, in which Navenna resisted Plevian annexation of the nation, Kalkara proclaimed independence with foreign backing.
  • 1605 AD-Present: Kalkara remains an independent sultanate.

LANGUAGE

The sole official language of Kalkara is Kalkaran. Minority languages are unrecognised and hold no rights in the nation due to strict linguistic laws prohibiting extensive usage of these tongues

POLITICS

Kalkara is a highly nationalistic absolute monarchy (a sultanate) under the House of Serpina, installed after independence from Navenna in the early 1600s. The country is growing increasingly more autocratic, with the current ruler, Sultan Oskar Serpina, wielding more and more control over public services and day to day amenities of the people.

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PAST MAPPING

  • Pŕens Elva, GTK: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-46.5862/65.5484&layers=B
  • Aveto Municipality, Qennes. An example of a more Mediterranean style of mapping.: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=17/39.62292/84.21223&layers=B
  • Kurni, GTK: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=13/-46.3844/65.3083&layers=B
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KAB (talk) 10:54, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

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