Forum:Territory application/AR911 - Republic of Haivin
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AR911∈⊾ƨ - Hai-bín Kiōng-hô-kok - 海闵共和国 - Republic of Haivin
| Physical geography | |
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| An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. With the exception of Beginner territories, you should always create a sketch map to illustrate & explain your plans. You can add a link to this (hosted on imgBB, Postimages or similar, but not imgur.com) |
Climate
Haivin has a typical humid subtropical monsoon climate. However, the central mountain range creates significant climatic differences between the eastern and western parts of the country. In general, the eastern side contains broader coastal plains, allowing moist air masses from the Sea of Belphenia to penetrate inland during summer. When these air masses encounter the central mountains, they are forced upward, producing abundant orographic rainfall. Annual precipitation in some eastern regions can exceed 2,500 millimeters.
In contrast, the western side lies within the rain shadow of the mountain range and is additionally influenced by a cold ocean current. As a result, it is generally cooler and drier than the east. Tropical cyclones and typhoons frequently make landfall along the eastern coast during late summer and early autumn. River valleys within the mountains often develop localized microclimates, while higher elevations may experience sub-zero temperatures and occasional frost during winter.
Topography
The Republic of Haivin is located on the northern coast of North Archanta, between 23° and 25° north latitude and 142° and 147° east longitude. It is a typical mountainous coastal country. While the overall terrain follows the existing landscape of the territory, it will be further refined and detailed. The country is primarily composed of plains and mountains. The Gudeng–Bai Mountain Range, running from northwest to southeast through the central part of the country, divides the territory into eastern and western regions. Most remaining coastal areas consist of alluvial plains formed by rivers. The eastern coast is characterized by a dense river network, while rivers in the west are fewer in number, shorter in length, and generally steeper.
The relief map: https://postimg.cc/4YsNvBvw
Landscape
The natural environment of Haivin is characterized by subtropical evergreen forests, rugged mountain landscapes, and an intricate coastline. Due to the limited extent of agricultural development in mountainous areas, large portions of the central highlands remain covered by native vegetation and mature forests. The lowland plains are crossed by numerous rivers and streams, supporting extensive agricultural land and dense human settlement.
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| A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style |
Population and Demographic
Population distribution in Haivin is uneven and strongly influenced by both terrain and climate. Most residents live on the western coastal plains, where conditions are more favorable for agriculture, transportation, and urban development. The capital, Bín-too (闵都), contains approximately fifteen percent of the national population and serves as the political and administrative center of the country.
The economic center of the country is Ting-kháu (嶝口), located near the border with the Republic of Huaxia and adjacent to the Huaxian city of Gudeng (古嶝市). Ting-kháu (嶝口) functions as one of the country's most important international gateways. The eastern and western border regions have historically been influenced by Peichew and Huaxia respectively, contributing to regional cultural diversity.
Economic Development
The primary sector remains important in the southeastern plains, central lowlands, and mountain regions. Major agricultural products include rice, tea, fruit crops, and timber. Fishing is particularly important along the western coast and constitutes a significant part of the regional economy.
The central mountains contain abundant mineral resources, while domestic energy resources remain limited. As a result, Haivin maintains a high degree of dependence on external sources for energy and industrial inputs. Major industries include shipbuilding, food processing, and light manufacturing.
The service sector dominates the modern economy. Finance, tourism, and technology industries are concentrated in the country's major coastal metropolitan areas. Owing to its strategic location along regional maritime routes, Haivin serves as one of the principal shipping hubs of North Archanta.
Land Use and Settlement Patterns
Human settlement is concentrated primarily on the coastal plains. The country contains three major urban centers. The capital, Bín-too (闵都), developed from the former city of Jincheng and serves as the national political center. Ting-kháu (嶝口), located near the Huaxian border and adjacent to Gudeng City (古嶝市), functions as a major international port and border crossing. The third major city, Pak-uann (北安), serves as the principal urban center of the northern coast and an important maritime gateway to the Sea of Belphenia.
Mapping Style
The mapping style of Haivin is inspired by: southeastern coastal China, the Taiwan region and Southeast Asia. The three principal metropolitan areas will be mapped in high detail and density, reflecting compact East Asian urban development patterns. Rural areas will be represented with lower-density development and realistic agricultural landscapes. Toponyms will follow a bilingual system consisting of Chinese characters and Minnan Pe̍h-ōe-jī (POJ) romanization.
| History & culture | |
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| A brief description of the intended culture and language |
History
The territory of modern Haivin has been inhabited for at least four thousand years. As early Huaxian states expanded across the Tongbao River basin, the region became part of the broader Huaxian cultural sphere while remaining geographically isolated by mountains and the sea.
During the late third millennium BCE, migrants from northern Huaxia settled along the northeastern coast of North Archanta. Their language and customs gradually evolved into the foundations of modern Haivinese culture. Following the unification of the Huaxia–Pei region under the Hua Dynasty, coastal ports and trade stations brought economic growth and closer integration with the Huaxian world.
After the decline of the unified dynasties, Haivin increasingly developed its own maritime identity. Trade, shipping, and fisheries became the foundation of the regional economy, while local merchant groups and port administrations fostered traditions of self-government that continue to shape modern Haivinese society.
Culture
Haivin culture forms part of the broader Huaxian cultural sphere while maintaining a strong maritime identity of its own. Modern Haivinese identity combines elements inherited from Huaxian civilization with a unique linguistic heritage and centuries of interaction with maritime societies across North Archanta.
The southern, eastern, and northern frontier regions have additionally been influenced by neighboring cultures, including Huaxian traditions, Peichew cultural influences, and, through maritime contacts with Uletha, elements of Japanese culture.
Language
The national language of the Republic of Haivin is Haivinese, while Modern Chinese serves as the official written language. Haivinese corresponds to Minnan in the real world. Within the OGF setting, the language originated from the speech of migrants who settled the region during the expansion of early Huaxian civilization and subsequently evolved through long periods of geographic isolation and maritime exchange.
Modern Haivin maintains a bilingual tradition. Standard Huaxian is widely used in education, administration, and interregional communication, while Haivinese remains the primary language of everyday life, local culture, and community identity.
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A mountai town
A medium-sized city
The border port city Ting-kháu: partily use the current coastline of Gudeng (Huaxia)
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--Haksi Tiao(Message) 10:28, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
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Discussion
- Hi, can you work on some detailed natural mapping please, provide that as an additional example. No rush. Thanks/wangi (talk) 10:36, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your prompt feedback! I will take my time and work on some detailed natural mapping examples. Hopefully, I will be able to show them on the map within the next one or two weeks. --Haksi Tiao(Message) 16:04, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- By the way, after discussing the proposal below with the neighboring projects, I have started considering part of AR910 as my first project (like this). I would like to ask whether you think this would be a reasonable direction. Thanks! --Haksi Tiao(Message) 10:43, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- This is an interesting proposal, though actually I hoped one day Peichew could be expanded to 今城 over there. I actually envisioned the area to be Hakka-speaking, once ruled by Giuka (九家) clans but now that area is split between Huaxia and Peichew. That said, I might suggest also just taking a northern part of AR911, or maybe a part of AR910∈⊾ƨ might be suitable if you plan to create a Minnan speaking country.--Zhenkang (talk) 12:05, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Haha, thanks for your comment and for sharing some of the background ideas you had for this area. The concept of incorporating Hakka culture into this region is very interesting. In fact, I have already considered the internal diversity of the area and even made a language map here (the green area corresponds to Hakka-speaking communities).
- As for the issue of territory size, would it be better to use the eastern boundary of Qing'an Province as the border? I would still like to place the capital at Jincheng (though the existing road network would certainly need to be rebuilt to meet more realistic standards). Of course, given the diverse coastline and the larger territory available, I have also considered AR910. However, I am concerned that it might be too large for me to handle at the moment. Meanwhile, Hokkien, Teochew, and Cantonese form a dialect continuum in the real world. From my perspective, if AR910 could be divided into two parts, it might be more convenient for both of us. I am just wondering whether such an arrangement would be feasible. Thank you again for your support and suggestions.--Haksi Tiao(Message) 16:34, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- There is also a possibility of taking only a part of AR910, and the rest still open for further expansion or claiming by other users. It depends on how much you want to split off.
- As for Gimsian (今城), the reason for the layout is because it's intended to be a newer city constructed by Peichew during their economic recovery and wanting to develop a new economic hub in the 70s.--Zhenkang (talk) 05:10, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, on behalf of the Huaxia Project, I'm glad to hear that you'd like to map here. If you need any help with international collaboration involving Huaxia (e.g., border control, international transport, etc.), feel free to reach out to me via the message system. By the way, personally, I think the current border shape of AR911 is a bit weird. Similar to what Zhenkang said, I believe it would be better if you only took the northern part of AR911, or alternatively, adjusted the straight southern boundary of AR911.
- Huaxia does not focus on the history too much. But if you need. Huaxia has proposed a history framework before. If you're interested, you may refer to this. Also, we don't mind which language is used. But if you need, we'd be happy to add some Minnan place names near the border area within Huaxia if you'd like to create a cultural transition zone. ——NM$l (talk) 14:33, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Additionally, we've noticed you've named your city 平果, which is the same as the real world 平果(Pingguo), Guangxi. xd NM$l (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi NM$l, Thank you very much for your support and for offering help with future coordination. As I mentioned above, I believe it would be better for us to divide AR911 and AR908∈⊾ƨ along the eastern boundary of Qing'an Province (清岸省).--Haksi Tiao(Message) 16:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for replying. Actually, as a suggestion, one of our mappers thought you could take half of 乐岸(Le'an), and leave the southern remaining to AR908. But it depends on you, and since I'm not the administrator, I don't have the right. You may require Wangi for reshaping the territory. ——NM$l (talk) 04:52, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you also for pointing me toward the Huaxia history framework. By the way, I completely agree with the Huaxia team's approach of focusing more on mapping itself rather than placing too much emphasis on detailed historical narratives. As for Pingguo, good catch! I hadn't realized that it shares the same name as the real-world city in Guangxi. I'll probably rename it before beginning detailed mapping to avoid confusion:). Thanks again for all the feedback and support.--Haksi Tiao(Message) 16:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, we've read the climate and topography part further. We agree that the west side of the Gudeng-Bai Range is drier with less and smaller river/streams. However, you mentioned that in certain area there would be sub-zero temperatures and occasional frost during winter. It seems that the border mountain range would be very high while we in our previous plan wish it would not be too high. Some of our mappers thought it would be very hard to get sub-zero temperatures (but occasional snow is possible) unless creating extremely high mountains, which might result to only very narrow costal plain like Gilan or Mazandaran in Iran. So, there might need a balance between the mountain height and plain width. Could you please provide an example elevation for the peaks? ——NM$l (talk) 04:26, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi NM$l, Thank you very much for your support and for offering help with future coordination. As I mentioned above, I believe it would be better for us to divide AR911 and AR908∈⊾ƨ along the eastern boundary of Qing'an Province (清岸省).--Haksi Tiao(Message) 16:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Additionally, we've noticed you've named your city 平果, which is the same as the real world 平果(Pingguo), Guangxi. xd NM$l (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Regarding the odd borders, the reason why they exists like that is because I just thought historically the line was established because Peichew signed a treaty with past Ulethan powers to limit their presence. Like Ulethan ports and any supporting military can only be established north of the line. And I actually hoped to claim both AR908 and AR910 for Peichew in the near future. But I will understand if you wish to claim a part of AR910.
- Also, Peichew's historical framework can be viewed there.--Zhenkang (talk) 07:15, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- The important bit is evidencing the mapping, so I can approve the application. The Northern Tropic boundary goes right back to the original territories here. It's an OGF Easter egg. Explain it how you'd like, but it stays. My plan, unless there's compelling reason otherwise, is to process this application with the territory boundaries as they exist. Thanks/wangi (talk) 15:14, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
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