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Should we have hibérain(e) (ɛ̃/ɛn or ɛn in South of France) or hibéran(e) (ã/an or ane in South of France) as an adjective equivalent to juif/ve - israélite? Likewise, should we have Hibérainisme or Hibéranisme?<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | Should we have hibérain(e) (ɛ̃/ɛn or ɛn in South of France) or hibéran(e) (ã/an or ane in South of France) as an adjective equivalent to juif/ve - israélite? Likewise, should we have Hibérainisme or Hibéranisme?<br>--[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | ||
== Odonyms == | |||
=== Political system === | |||
IRW France, many main streets or squares are ''de la République''. Though many ''Rue'' or 'Place'' Royale stil exist in France, a lots of them have been "republically" renamed. If Valony is a republic, I'd assume many ways tagged ''highway:'' will be named accordingly. Should we consider Valony a republic? --[[User:Aiki|Aiki]] ([[User talk:Aiki|talk]]) 04:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
=== Public figures === | |||
Below are some names I've noted from places, mainly in Nemans: | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | |||
|- | |||
! Name | |||
! Surname | |||
! Profession | |||
! Dates | |||
|- | |||
| Georges | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Bêches | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| César | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Binet | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Lucien | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Dalasque | |||
| Author | |||
| ~1850s | |||
|- | |||
| Bernard | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | de l'Aïc | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Edmond | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | de Remmeau | |||
| Philanthropist | |||
| ~1880s-1920s | |||
|- | |||
| Léopold | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Decazes | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| ? | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | d'Estienne Tour | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Léonard | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | d'Ouaisie | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| ? | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Ducelle | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Alphonse | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Durant | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Michelle | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Frochot | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Philippe | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Le Bon | |||
| Ruler | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Roger | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Le Grand | |||
| Ruler | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| ? | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Marbois | |||
| Marshal | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| Hippolyte | |||
| style="font-weight:bold;" | Sudreau | |||
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|} | |||
Revision as of 04:56, 29 October 2024
As acting project coordinator for Valony, I have started a sandbox with some Valonian vocabulary that may be used in mapping: Valonian exonyms, names for religions, rivers...
For the following elements, having a Valonian equivalent has not been that easy. I'm proposing some solutions but others may well fit even better. Feel free to share your opinion, even though you're not well-versed in French:
Valonian exonyms
Archanta
Federal States
Based on US/American - américain/états-unien, should we have état-fédérien/ne and/or archantéen/ne?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Kartumie
Should we have Cartumie with a /y/ sound or Cartoumie with a /u/ sound?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Tarephia
Novakia
Should we have novaque as we have Slovaquie/slovaque or novaquien? As Novakia is small and not a neighbouring country, it's rather unlikely we'll have a rue des novaques compared to rue des pléviens
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Uletha
Astria
In French, V-S-C (where V is for vowel and C for consonant) tends to switch to V̂-C. Should we have Astrie or Âtrie? And consequently, should we have astrien/astrienne or âtrien/âtrienne? Note that we may still have Âtrie but astrien, or reverse.
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Kalm
Kalm equivalent is rather tricky as the direct one would be Calme as in calm.
- Using French phonetics, we could have: Kalm -> Chalm (as in caput->chef or canus->chien k->tʃ->ʃ) and later a palatisation of the l Chalm -> Le Chaum or Chaüm (as in saltus->saut salva->sauge al->aw->o) pronounced /ʃa.ɔm/, with a potential adjective chahomais/chahomaise.
- A complete exonym as we have, IRW, Deutsch/German/Allemand/Tedescho...
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Religions
Imamism
Should we have imamiste or imamique as an adjective equivalent to musulman?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Ivarian
Should we have hibérain(e) (ɛ̃/ɛn or ɛn in South of France) or hibéran(e) (ã/an or ane in South of France) as an adjective equivalent to juif/ve - israélite? Likewise, should we have Hibérainisme or Hibéranisme?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Odonyms
Political system
IRW France, many main streets or squares are de la République. Though many Rue or 'Place Royale stil exist in France, a lots of them have been "republically" renamed. If Valony is a republic, I'd assume many ways tagged highway: will be named accordingly. Should we consider Valony a republic? --Aiki (talk) 04:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Public figures
Below are some names I've noted from places, mainly in Nemans:
| Name | Surname | Profession | Dates |
|---|---|---|---|
| Georges | Bêches | ||
| César | Binet | ||
| Lucien | Dalasque | Author | ~1850s |
| Bernard | de l'Aïc | ||
| Edmond | de Remmeau | Philanthropist | ~1880s-1920s |
| Léopold | Decazes | ||
| ? | d'Estienne Tour | ||
| Léonard | d'Ouaisie | ||
| ? | Ducelle | ||
| Alphonse | Durant | ||
| Michelle | Frochot | ||
| Philippe | Le Bon | Ruler | |
| Roger | Le Grand | Ruler | |
| ? | Marbois | Marshal | |
| Hippolyte | Sudreau |