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{{relation|189798|TA032}} - Capitán (Federation of){{territory application physical geography}} | {{relation|189798|TA032}} - Capitán (Federation of){{territory application physical geography}}Aldevira is a federation of four main islands (and some more smaller islands). The islands are similar in geography. The largest island, Aldevira is home to three mountain ranges, The Pinnacle Mountains (Gran Pico), the Saint George Mountains (Saint Jorge) and the Flesh Mountains (Montañas De Carne). The rest of the island is mostly forested with meadows and fams dotted across the landscape. Towns and villages are densely stitched together in South Aldevira. In North Aldevira (and the rest of the islands except Toçi ) population is much scarcer in the countryside, but gets very dense in urban areas. The region has a Tropical Rainforest Climate (Af on the Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification) | ||
below is a sketch of | below is a sketch of Aldevira. It includes some lore for the islands, mountains, provinces, parishes, and major cities. | ||
https://imgur.com/94jHO3Y<nowiki/>{{territory application human geography}}The country in total has a population of around | https://imgur.com/94jHO3Y<nowiki/>{{territory application human geography}}The country in total has a population of around 1.5 Million. The largest city is Zavor, in South Aldevira. In order of population, the other major cities are as follows: Debut, Gardi, Capia, Tavori, Port Gai. Debut is the capital, and judicial centre of the country. Damia is the economic centre. Port Gai is regarded as the largest settlement in the country with no colonial influence. Most cities are town-sized. | ||
Public transit is left up to provincial governments, meaning some will have better connection than others. | Public transit is left up to provincial governments, meaning some will have better connection than others. | ||
Railway transport only exists in | Railway transport only exists in Karnova and Tavora, ran by National Railways, the Tavora Railroad, the Damia Transit Authority or the Capitol Rapid Transit (CaRT). A series of ferries connect the islands. | ||
Administratively, the country is divided into six provinces, North | Administratively, the country is divided into six provinces, North Aldevira, South Aldevira, Toçi , Limain Island, Burnsey Shore and New Ledbury. These provinces are further divided into parishes or city districts. | ||
The population in | The population in Tavora is rising steadily, as more work becomes available. The country (especially Tavora) is attractive to companies due to its well educated workforce, low corporation tax and the fact that Ingerish is spoken. Aldevira is regarded as a tax haven, and I hope to collaborate with some Tarephian countries to set up int'l headquarters in cities like New Ledbury. | ||
Tourism is a major money-maker in | Tourism is a major money-maker in Aldevira, accounting for 20% of the country's income. The main holiday destinations are Toçi and Limain, though tourists also visit the other parts of the country. Its beautiful beaches and clear seas attract tourists from across the world. The largest and busiest airport in the country is Damia Neziri International Airport. | ||
Aldevira has an aging population. Most young people are moving to the cities or in the worst cases leaving the country for Uletha. Tavora is the most well-off region in the country. | |||
Highways, given the A prefix link together major towns and cities. They go all accross the country. | Highways, given the A prefix link together major towns and cities. They go all accross the country. | ||
Motorways are highways which have a speed of 120km/h, are a dual carriageway or more, do not allow stopping and use the general "keep left" rules. They appear infrequently, mostly around big cities. The longest stretch links | Motorways are highways which have a speed of 120km/h, are a dual carriageway or more, do not allow stopping and use the general "keep left" rules. They appear infrequently, mostly around big cities. The longest stretch links Tavora City and New Ledbury. Most mororways are tolled by private companies who also manage the maintainance of them. Motorways retain the route number of the A road from which it originates, but takes an M prefix instead. | ||
Regional Highways (R), Local Highways (L) and unclassified roads follow. | Regional Highways (R), Local Highways (L) and unclassified roads follow. | ||
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The government built most of these roads during the early 2000s but no new construction is planned. Generally, the small motorway network serves the small country well. Most people live in dense urban buildings, with three-four floored townhouses. Outside of this, there are lots of villages and smaller towns dotted accross the country and people often build houses out in the country on already-built roads. Rich foreigners have holiday homes or build resorts on the beaches. {{territory application history and culture}}Cultures are mainly outlined here: https://imgur.com/94jHO3Y | The government built most of these roads during the early 2000s but no new construction is planned. Generally, the small motorway network serves the small country well. Most people live in dense urban buildings, with three-four floored townhouses. Outside of this, there are lots of villages and smaller towns dotted accross the country and people often build houses out in the country on already-built roads. Rich foreigners have holiday homes or build resorts on the beaches. {{territory application history and culture}}Cultures are mainly outlined here: https://imgur.com/94jHO3Y | ||
The | The islands historically were known as the Kingdom of Aldevira and had four High Kings, one for each island. Sometime around the renaissance, Toçi Island and it's city of Debut became a major shipping port, not unlike Venice of our world. Toçi essentially broke off from the Kingdom (though not officially) By 1580, the Kingdom was basically dead and what remained were three small city states, Zavor, Debut and Tavori. While Debut was stunted by the size of its island, Zavor and Tavori were not. Unfortunately, Tavori was attacked and conquered by Ingerish colonials in 1673. The Ingerish rule in Tavora was long, but fortunately the native culture was not bothered. It was mostly used as an outpost for The Strait and Sabelic(?) Sea. As for Zavor, it grew rapidly after Tavori was out of the picture, eventually forming the Kingdom of Zavor. By the 18th Century, the islands were mostly peaceful. The Kingdom and Debut mostly stayed away from eachother, and both were weary of their neighbour to the south. | ||
In 1754, there was a rebellion in Tavori that took the Ingerish off guard. After it was put down, they began to have a greater military presence in the area. In 1860, Debut and Zavor united into the (Second) Aldeviran Kingdom to deter the colonials. In 1873, Limain Island joined them. They were relatively peaceful until 1912, shortly after a period of famine caused by blight. This famine revealed the monarchy's ignorance and led to the rise of Sebastian Seferi and his radical followers. The rebellion, which started in Debut but soon spread across all three islands ended in the execution of the two royal families in what became known as Blood Square, Debut. | |||
Sebastian Seferi was a military dictatorship. Seferi committed attrocities such as the Garza Massacre in 1925 when he had his soldiers open fire on a group of protestors, or the genocide of some minority groups in the country. (Seferi also founded planned towns such as Seferigard) The Ingerish eventually intervened in 1930, invading the three islands from their colony of Tavora. The invasion was to restore peace to the archipeligo. The invasion was ultimately a success, and Seferi was imprisoned, and later exiled. In 1964, Tavora was released and chose to join Aldevira, whose economy was growing steadily. | |||
Below is the flag of the country since 1798. | |||
https://imgur.com/a/ihlodmH<nowiki/>{{territory application past mapping}}I have been mapping in BG36: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=10/16.1059/-107.4477&layers=B for a while now using JOSM and the further west you go the more recent the mapping is. The mainland regions are based on Ireland however this island to the north: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/16.2284/-107.5331&layers=B is relevant to this territory application as it is based loosely on Jamaica. An example of my urban mapping can be found in Oliver City and an example of my rural mapping can be found in the countryside and in the forests and mountains where I have detailed some tourist destinations inspired by Co. Kerry, Ireland. (e.g. Farrowdown Lake: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/15.9933/-107.4693&layers=B) | |||
I would also like for [https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/15.8698/-107.3052&layers=B The town of Stricture to be moved to | I would also like for [https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/15.8698/-107.3052&layers=B The town of Stricture to be moved to Tavora] and help with how to do this. {{territory application username and date}}[[User:Veni Vidi Vici|Veni Vidi Vici]] ([[User talk:Veni Vidi Vici|talk]]) 21:12, 7 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
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* I've updated the application and changed the culture and geography to fit it. Thanks for helping. If this gets accepted, I presume BG36 will be wiped clean. Thanks again, [[User:Veni Vidi Vici|Veni Vidi Vici]] ([[User talk:Veni Vidi Vici|talk]]) 16:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC) | * I've updated the application and changed the culture and geography to fit it. Thanks for helping. If this gets accepted, I presume BG36 will be wiped clean. Thanks again, [[User:Veni Vidi Vici|Veni Vidi Vici]] ([[User talk:Veni Vidi Vici|talk]]) 16:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
* Please think through the population density (5.5m / [https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/util/relation_area.html?q=305470 4149.4km<sup>2</sup>] = 1325 pop. per km<sup>2</sup>) and the level of development. Can you also explain how you see the proposed culture and theme working with the suggested: ''"Ellirian Peninsula: Greek, Spanish, perhaps Italian"''. Thanks/[[User:Wangi|wangi]] ([[User talk:Wangi|talk]]) 11:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | * Please think through the population density (5.5m / [https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/util/relation_area.html?q=305470 4149.4km<sup>2</sup>] = 1325 pop. per km<sup>2</sup>) and the level of development. Can you also explain how you see the proposed culture and theme working with the suggested: ''"Ellirian Peninsula: Greek, Spanish, perhaps Italian"''. Thanks/[[User:Wangi|wangi]] ([[User talk:Wangi|talk]]) 11:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
* I will change the population to 2 Million, with a density average of around .00048 people/km² (I don't know if I did this right, but the population I estimated above was just for the purpose of this application and it wouldn't have been referenced elsewhere. As for culture, I would gladly change the spanish regions to a more Illyrian culture (not mentioned here but modern day albanian with some greek and italian influences). As for | * I will change the population to 2 Million, with a density average of around .00048 people/km² (I don't know if I did this right, but the population I estimated above was just for the purpose of this application and it wouldn't have been referenced elsewhere.) As for culture, I would gladly change the spanish regions to a more Illyrian culture (not mentioned here but modern day albanian with some greek and italian influences). As for Tavora and the Ingerish regions, I imagine the empire would have wanted a colony nearby The Strait. They will be based on places like Cyprus, Gibraltar or Malta. I have added more info on development. I really hope this is all of the things I left out or didn't provide enough information on because I have been waiting and waiting for donkey's years just trying to get a territory so I can map and have fun. [[User:Veni Vidi Vici|Veni Vidi Vici]] ([[User talk:Veni Vidi Vici|talk]]) 13:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
* 2 million gives you a population density of ~ 480 per km<sup>2</sup>. For a reasonably useful comparison consider Trinidad and Tobago with a density of ~300. I'd suggest topping out at 1.5M. Honestly, it's the English use which is giving me pause for thought here. Replace that with Spanish (or your Illyrian idea, one or the other) and it would be much easier to approve. Thanks/[[User:Wangi|wangi]] ([[User talk:Wangi|talk]]) 15:26, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | * 2 million gives you a population density of ~ 480 per km<sup>2</sup>. For a reasonably useful comparison consider Trinidad and Tobago with a density of ~300. I'd suggest topping out at 1.5M. Honestly, it's the English use which is giving me pause for thought here. Replace that with Spanish (or your Illyrian idea, one or the other) and it would be much easier to approve. Thanks/[[User:Wangi|wangi]] ([[User talk:Wangi|talk]]) 15:26, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
* I'll remove the English speaking parts, but could I keep that as part of its history (and as such still use some of the English names) My main inspiration is Malta, whose language has an italian influence and is in a (somewhat) similar region. It was under British rule or influence until atleast 1964, and is a rare case of European colonialism, in Europe. Another example is Gibraltar, similarily to The Dematisna Strait, it seperates North Africa and Europe. The only official language is English, but as far as I can tell most people use Spanish in everyday life (which is an example of the use of English names and Illyrian culture I mentioned above. ) I've updated the population. I know it requires a moving of the application, but to honour the fact that the territory now has no spanish influence, I would like to change it to a more Illyrian name: Aldevira (Aldeviran). The island of Capitán was renamed to Karnova, Hersey to Tavora, and its colonial history removed. I wont be updating the map, but it is innacurate now. [[User:Veni Vidi Vici|Veni Vidi Vici]] ([[User talk:Veni Vidi Vici|talk]]) 16:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
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TA032∈⊾ - Capitán (Federation of)
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Aldevira is a federation of four main islands (and some more smaller islands). The islands are similar in geography. The largest island, Aldevira is home to three mountain ranges, The Pinnacle Mountains (Gran Pico), the Saint George Mountains (Saint Jorge) and the Flesh Mountains (Montañas De Carne). The rest of the island is mostly forested with meadows and fams dotted across the landscape. Towns and villages are densely stitched together in South Aldevira. In North Aldevira (and the rest of the islands except Toçi ) population is much scarcer in the countryside, but gets very dense in urban areas. The region has a Tropical Rainforest Climate (Af on the Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification)
below is a sketch of Aldevira. It includes some lore for the islands, mountains, provinces, parishes, and major cities.
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The country in total has a population of around 1.5 Million. The largest city is Zavor, in South Aldevira. In order of population, the other major cities are as follows: Debut, Gardi, Capia, Tavori, Port Gai. Debut is the capital, and judicial centre of the country. Damia is the economic centre. Port Gai is regarded as the largest settlement in the country with no colonial influence. Most cities are town-sized.
Public transit is left up to provincial governments, meaning some will have better connection than others.
Railway transport only exists in Karnova and Tavora, ran by National Railways, the Tavora Railroad, the Damia Transit Authority or the Capitol Rapid Transit (CaRT). A series of ferries connect the islands.
Administratively, the country is divided into six provinces, North Aldevira, South Aldevira, Toçi , Limain Island, Burnsey Shore and New Ledbury. These provinces are further divided into parishes or city districts.
The population in Tavora is rising steadily, as more work becomes available. The country (especially Tavora) is attractive to companies due to its well educated workforce, low corporation tax and the fact that Ingerish is spoken. Aldevira is regarded as a tax haven, and I hope to collaborate with some Tarephian countries to set up int'l headquarters in cities like New Ledbury.
Tourism is a major money-maker in Aldevira, accounting for 20% of the country's income. The main holiday destinations are Toçi and Limain, though tourists also visit the other parts of the country. Its beautiful beaches and clear seas attract tourists from across the world. The largest and busiest airport in the country is Damia Neziri International Airport.
Aldevira has an aging population. Most young people are moving to the cities or in the worst cases leaving the country for Uletha. Tavora is the most well-off region in the country.
Highways, given the A prefix link together major towns and cities. They go all accross the country.
Motorways are highways which have a speed of 120km/h, are a dual carriageway or more, do not allow stopping and use the general "keep left" rules. They appear infrequently, mostly around big cities. The longest stretch links Tavora City and New Ledbury. Most mororways are tolled by private companies who also manage the maintainance of them. Motorways retain the route number of the A road from which it originates, but takes an M prefix instead.
Regional Highways (R), Local Highways (L) and unclassified roads follow.
The government built most of these roads during the early 2000s but no new construction is planned. Generally, the small motorway network serves the small country well. Most people live in dense urban buildings, with three-four floored townhouses. Outside of this, there are lots of villages and smaller towns dotted accross the country and people often build houses out in the country on already-built roads. Rich foreigners have holiday homes or build resorts on the beaches.
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Cultures are mainly outlined here: https://imgur.com/94jHO3Y
The islands historically were known as the Kingdom of Aldevira and had four High Kings, one for each island. Sometime around the renaissance, Toçi Island and it's city of Debut became a major shipping port, not unlike Venice of our world. Toçi essentially broke off from the Kingdom (though not officially) By 1580, the Kingdom was basically dead and what remained were three small city states, Zavor, Debut and Tavori. While Debut was stunted by the size of its island, Zavor and Tavori were not. Unfortunately, Tavori was attacked and conquered by Ingerish colonials in 1673. The Ingerish rule in Tavora was long, but fortunately the native culture was not bothered. It was mostly used as an outpost for The Strait and Sabelic(?) Sea. As for Zavor, it grew rapidly after Tavori was out of the picture, eventually forming the Kingdom of Zavor. By the 18th Century, the islands were mostly peaceful. The Kingdom and Debut mostly stayed away from eachother, and both were weary of their neighbour to the south.
In 1754, there was a rebellion in Tavori that took the Ingerish off guard. After it was put down, they began to have a greater military presence in the area. In 1860, Debut and Zavor united into the (Second) Aldeviran Kingdom to deter the colonials. In 1873, Limain Island joined them. They were relatively peaceful until 1912, shortly after a period of famine caused by blight. This famine revealed the monarchy's ignorance and led to the rise of Sebastian Seferi and his radical followers. The rebellion, which started in Debut but soon spread across all three islands ended in the execution of the two royal families in what became known as Blood Square, Debut.
Sebastian Seferi was a military dictatorship. Seferi committed attrocities such as the Garza Massacre in 1925 when he had his soldiers open fire on a group of protestors, or the genocide of some minority groups in the country. (Seferi also founded planned towns such as Seferigard) The Ingerish eventually intervened in 1930, invading the three islands from their colony of Tavora. The invasion was to restore peace to the archipeligo. The invasion was ultimately a success, and Seferi was imprisoned, and later exiled. In 1964, Tavora was released and chose to join Aldevira, whose economy was growing steadily.
Below is the flag of the country since 1798.
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I have been mapping in BG36: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=10/16.1059/-107.4477&layers=B for a while now using JOSM and the further west you go the more recent the mapping is. The mainland regions are based on Ireland however this island to the north: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/16.2284/-107.5331&layers=B is relevant to this territory application as it is based loosely on Jamaica. An example of my urban mapping can be found in Oliver City and an example of my rural mapping can be found in the countryside and in the forests and mountains where I have detailed some tourist destinations inspired by Co. Kerry, Ireland. (e.g. Farrowdown Lake: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/15.9933/-107.4693&layers=B)
I would also like for The town of Stricture to be moved to Tavora and help with how to do this.
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Veni Vidi Vici (talk) 21:12, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Hi, the TA admin recently stepped down, and applications are currently not being accepted for the continent. Given the application was made before this, I will consider it. However, I have reduced the scope of the application to one of the territories. Please rework the application with this in mind, plus using the information at OpenGeofiction:Tarephia#North Tarephia to guide the culture. Thanks/wangi (talk) 08:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've updated the application and changed the culture and geography to fit it. Thanks for helping. If this gets accepted, I presume BG36 will be wiped clean. Thanks again, Veni Vidi Vici (talk) 16:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please think through the population density (5.5m / 4149.4km2 = 1325 pop. per km2) and the level of development. Can you also explain how you see the proposed culture and theme working with the suggested: "Ellirian Peninsula: Greek, Spanish, perhaps Italian". Thanks/wangi (talk) 11:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I will change the population to 2 Million, with a density average of around .00048 people/km² (I don't know if I did this right, but the population I estimated above was just for the purpose of this application and it wouldn't have been referenced elsewhere.) As for culture, I would gladly change the spanish regions to a more Illyrian culture (not mentioned here but modern day albanian with some greek and italian influences). As for Tavora and the Ingerish regions, I imagine the empire would have wanted a colony nearby The Strait. They will be based on places like Cyprus, Gibraltar or Malta. I have added more info on development. I really hope this is all of the things I left out or didn't provide enough information on because I have been waiting and waiting for donkey's years just trying to get a territory so I can map and have fun. Veni Vidi Vici (talk) 13:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- 2 million gives you a population density of ~ 480 per km2. For a reasonably useful comparison consider Trinidad and Tobago with a density of ~300. I'd suggest topping out at 1.5M. Honestly, it's the English use which is giving me pause for thought here. Replace that with Spanish (or your Illyrian idea, one or the other) and it would be much easier to approve. Thanks/wangi (talk) 15:26, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll remove the English speaking parts, but could I keep that as part of its history (and as such still use some of the English names) My main inspiration is Malta, whose language has an italian influence and is in a (somewhat) similar region. It was under British rule or influence until atleast 1964, and is a rare case of European colonialism, in Europe. Another example is Gibraltar, similarily to The Dematisna Strait, it seperates North Africa and Europe. The only official language is English, but as far as I can tell most people use Spanish in everyday life (which is an example of the use of English names and Illyrian culture I mentioned above. ) I've updated the population. I know it requires a moving of the application, but to honour the fact that the territory now has no spanish influence, I would like to change it to a more Illyrian name: Aldevira (Aldeviran). The island of Capitán was renamed to Karnova, Hersey to Tavora, and its colonial history removed. I wont be updating the map, but it is innacurate now. Veni Vidi Vici (talk) 16:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)