Forum:Global and regional issues/East Ulethan geographic regions

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Purpose

This thread aims to agree and formalise names for the various major geographic regions and seas located or adjacent to East Uletha. 2 subcontinents, 9 regions, and 12 seas are listed below. These names are the common Ingerish (English) names for the regions. They'd likely be commonly used in international organisations and be transliterated/translated into other languages. In addition, the seas in the OGF map renderer can be labelled accordingly. Other countries/languages are free to use their own nation-specific name for the regions, reflecting their own cultures and histories (a RW example would be Persian Gulf / Arabian Gulf / The Gulf).

Naming Process

There will be 2 stages for naming the various geographic regions:

1. Name nominations will be gathered for all regions. To add your suggestion, add it as a new row in the table under the corresponding title. This period will run until the end of January, though it may be extended if we have not received enough nominations.

   NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED, thank you to everyone who put forward suggestions Gubble (talk) 13:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

2. Voting.
   1. To vote, add your signature in the "Votes" box next to your preferred option.
   2. You are allowed to vote for multiple options.
   3. A "Re-open nominations" option is available for each region. If this option wins, then a new forum thread will be set up to gather new suggestions for the unnamed region. Please only vote for this option if you strongly dislike all of the options.
   4. We'll aim for a quorum of 10 voters for all the major regions. For the smaller regions, this quorum might not be achieved but we'll aim to ensure all territories in close proximity vote.
   5. Voting will close on 28-February-2025.
   6. In the event of a tie, we'll consider the options on a case by case basis. The outcome may be that a single region has multiple official names, or that there is a second vote.

Regions

Map of regions.

https://imgur.com/a/eNUFtkV

Subcontinent 1

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Northeast Uletha	N/A	Clear, simple, unambiguous. "Evergreen" - not dependent on current names / cultures in region.	Uncreative.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Frigoterra	Ominvar (talk) 06:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Stems from Latin, loosely translating into "cold land".	Not from cultures within area.
Paskitia	Ominvar (talk) 06:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Stems from Proto-Permic "paśkit", meaning "wide", conforming to the languages similar to Finnish idea made by ParrotMan
Pošjama or Poshama	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	From Proto-Finnic "pošja", meaning "north" or deep and "maa", meaning "land".	A bit difficult to decide how to render it in Ingerish.
Kulmantia or Kulvantia	DT Planner (talk) 15:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	From Proto-Finno-Permic "külmä", meaning "cold" and from Proto-Uralic "wamta", meaning "forest".		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Isermia/Isurmia	Awesomeboy123 (talk) 10:55, 25 January 2025 (UTC)	From Khanty "isxur̃-muw", meaning dark/shadow land. Refers to the sun's light not being able to reach that region for half of the year.	Khanty isn't confirmed to be a language spoken in that region, though related to Finno-Ugric roots.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Boreal East Uletha	Geoboi (talk) 14:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)	"Evergreen" - not dependent on current names / cultures in the region "Boreal" refers to regions in the north, e.g. Aurora Borealis
(East) Uletha Major	CaribbeanIslandMapper (talk) 05:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC)	East Uletha consists of roughly two parts - a big peninsula in the north, and a small one in the south.
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Maybe we can name this in Finnish or similar languages in the region to better reflect the area in whole
ParrotMan (talk) 21:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Subcontinent 2

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Southeast Uletha	N/A	Clear, simple, unambiguous. "Evergreen" - not dependent on current names / cultures in region.	Uncreative.
Axia	N/A	"OGF meta-history" - hints at the past of the map's development	Overly similar to "Asia". Uses unusual phonetics (in both Asian languages and English language). Does not sound Japonic / East Asian.
Ortusia	Ominvar (talk) 06:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Stems from "ortus", which roughly translates from Latin into "sunrise", reflecting its position east of the former Romantish Empire.	May sound unnatural.
Askia	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	From Proto-Izaki "askj-", meaning "country, land", referring to how the territory used to be called by the ancient Izaki nations. Also, similar to the former "Axia(n)".
Austral East Uletha	Geoboi (talk) 14:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)	"Evergreen" - not dependent on current names / cultures in region. "Austral" refers to regions in the south, e.g. Aurora Australis.
(East) Uletha Minor	CaribbeanIslandMapper (talk) 05:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC)	East Uletha consists of roughly two parts - a big peninsula in the north, and a small one in the south.	Mercator projection likely overemphasises the size difference between the two halves of Uletha. However, Uletha Minor still works well when considering the subcontinent as a small distinct section of the entirety of Uletha.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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Region 1

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Axian Peninsula	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki. "OGF meta-history" - hints at the past of the map's development	Overly similar to "Asia". Uses unusual phonetics (in both Asian languages and English language). Does not sound Japonic / East Asian. Peninsula typically refers to small geographic regions and is unusual for such a large area.
Axia	N/A	As above	As above
Hoppon	Gubble (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	"OGF meta-history" - hints at the past of the map's development. Name is within region's "Japanese" theme.		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Rin'yō	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	In "Japanese" would be 林陽, meaning "the forest facing the sun", similarly to the region of San'yō in Japan, meaning "the mountains facing the sun(=south).	Maybe a bit difficult to render in Ingerish
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Region 2

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Far-east Uletha	Gubble (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	Clear, simple, unambiguous. "Evergreen" - not dependent on current names / cultures in region.	Uncreative.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Orientalia	ParrotMan (talk) 21:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	Stems from the latin word "Orientalis", which means "east" or "easterly". Similar to how Australia is named.	Looks clunky. Possible alternative can be: "Orentalia", maybe "Orentia"?
[river derived]	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	A name is derived from a wide and important river flowing throughout the area. The name could have an indigenous derivation. The result could be something like "Amazonia"	The area is still mostly empty
Near East	Leowezy (talk) 12:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)	Similar reasoning than Orientalia, but analogous to real-world "middle east" (Arabian peninsular from American perspective) or "near east" (from European perspective).	Some might say it also sounds "too straightforward"; but in the real world most subcontinents are named using cardinal directions.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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Region 3

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Lantian Peninsula	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.	Named shared with existing country, which may cause confusion.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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Region 4

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Darcodian Coast	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.	Darcodian Coast could be seen as ambiguous, as it only refers to the south coast of the Darcodian Sea	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Neu-Kalm	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Indicating that the region was formerly colonized by Kalm.
Middle / Central East Uletha	Leowezy (talk) 12:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)	Since this region name is supposed to encompass the whole middle part of this subcontinent, it will include many very different cultural spheres. A more geographic, neutral name seems appropriate then (similar to "Middle America", "Central Europe"), instead of a Germanic name, which seems more appropriate for the Darcodian Sea instead.
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Region 5

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
No Name	N/A	Region does not have distinctive borders.
Ispelian Peninsula	Ominvar (talk) 06:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Refers to a major country in the region
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Region 6

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Ulethan Mideast	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.	Perhaps overly similar to RW "Middle East". May be misleading, as the vision for the region includes different cultures to the RW Middle East.
Transivera	Gubble (talk) 22:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	Meaning beyond the Iveran sea. Inspired by RW "Transoxania".		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Transuletha / Transulethia	Leowezy (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)	Highlights bridge-function between East and West Ulehta		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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Region 7

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Combine with region 8	N/A		Region 7 holds distinct geographical boundaries and features; it should be deserving of a distinction from Region 8.
Voltan Passage	ParrotMan (talk) 21:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	Reflects the Gulf of Volta Region	In no way reflects the German influence, same cons as Sea 7 Also I have no idea on what to put after "Volta", ideas are welcome as "passage" in my brain usually translates to water travel rather than one over land.
Intermaria	Ominvar (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Translates roughly to "between seas", a fitting description for the region.	Does not reflect Germanic culture in the region	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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Region 8

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Scythe of Uletha	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Whale Sea States	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.
Scythe of Uletha/Whale Sea States	ParrotMan (talk) 21:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	Make them interchangeable, minimize effect to wiki.
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Region 9

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Plurinesia	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Cariudria/Kariudria	Davieerr (talk) 15:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)	From the Hindu Gaṛhudra (Fortresses of the Sea), hellenised by the groups of Telkarnatha. Makes the region historically connected to the greater indian cultural sphere and ads terlkarnatha as a consolidated place inside of the regions history without making it "greek"	Makes the region in name close to Indian Culture, but since Indian and Austronesian Cultures could intermingle (seeing how the most probable point of origin for polynesian cultures is Taiwan), maybe this isn't a big problem.
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Sea 1

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Gulf of Axia	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.	This sea is not a "gulf". Same cons as referred to in Region 1.
Umi Sea	Gubble (talk) 19:45, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	From Japanese for "Ocean". Reference to common trend of doubled-names due to translation errors.		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Konjio Sea or Konshi Sea	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	From the "Japanese" 紺塩 (Kon-jio), inspired by the Kuroshio (黒潮) sea current, one of the largest in the world. Due to the different temperatures of the water, the seawater flowing in this area has a deeper colour. Here 紺 (kon, navy blue) has been used instead of 黒 (kuro, black).
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Sea 2

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Sea of Belphenia	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.	Due to the recent redrawing of Region 1, Belphenia does not share a large border with the sea.
North Bai Sea	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Refers to the dominant historic power, the Bai Empire.	Reliant on the Bai empire not changing names. Bai also no longer exists.
North Bai Strait	Taksine (talk) 10:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)	I think it's more like a strait.	With the future development of Huaxia, there may be some changes. Bai also no longer exists.
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Sea 3

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
N/A	N/A		Mappers aren't clearly established in the region.	N/A - Sea 3 is not open for voting

Sea 4

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Sound of Pa	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.	This sea is not a "sound". Sound is a very western term, and the sea is located in an Japonic/Koreanic cultural region. Name is overly fantastical. "Pa" has unclear origins and does not evoke Japonic/Koreanic culture.
Kita Sea	Gubble (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	Japanese for "North". Refers to a dominant historic power, the currently unnamed UL30c.
Nanda Sea	Izaland Terramorphing Committee (talk) 14:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Nanda stems from Izaki root meaning "far, ignote". Refers to a dominant historic power, Izaland.
Inland Sea	Gubble (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	"Evergreen" - not dependent on current names / cultures in region.	Not specific. There are a lot of inland seas in OGF.
East Uletha Sea	Gubble (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	"Evergreen" - not dependent on current names / cultures in region. Reflects a history where there was no single name for the sea until colonists arrive and gave it the arbitrary name.	May be confusing, as there are several large seas in East Uletha.
Ikeiwan Sea	Awesomeboy123 (talk) 14:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Originally referring to the southern Itakiri Prefecture calderas being called "mushrooms in ponds" by the Izaki people, and can be used to describe the archipelagos in this inland sea (the pond being the sea itself)
Sea of Izaland	Ominvar (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Refers to a major power in the region, reflects the naming of seas after neighboring lands in real world East Asia (East China Sea, South China Sea, Sea of Japan, Philippine Sea, etc.)
Sea of [Name of Japanese Homeland]	Leowezy (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)	Many adjacent countries would probably name the sea after themselves in their respective languages. When Ingerish ships fared through this region for the first time however, the Japan-equivalent UL30c would have been the dominant power in this region, likely resulting in the Ingerish reflecting that (similar to the Sea of Japan). You means "Sea of 故郷(furusato)"? Sounds good. --快乐的老鼠宝宝 (talk) 16:26, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Izaland Sea	快乐的老鼠宝宝 (talk) 16:26, 29 January 2025 (UTC)	Similar reason like "Sea of Izaland", just because I found this is the sea closest to Izaland, and as a detailed mapped representative area I guess it can name a sea.	(I also consider for something like "Sea of [ul30cb] / [ul30cb] sea" because it also close to ul30cb, but it need we decide ul30cb's name first. For this reason, if a name can both suitable for those 2 country I guess "Sea of furusato" maybe better.
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Sea 5

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Kaspen Sea	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Ulethine Sea	Geoboi (talk) 14:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)	Refers to the continent of Uletha as a whole, so it doesn't favor one of the many cultures around the sea too heavily. This sea also appears to be the closest to the interior of the continent as a whole, so the name might be appropriate whilst being different enough from "Ulethan" to sound too generic.	Could be too vague, more specific and unique names may be suggested
Sea of Ohemia	Geoboi (talk) 14:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)	Refers to a large country bordering this sea	May neglect other prevalent cultures in the area
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Sea 6

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Darcodian Sea	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki. Refers to city "Darcodia" on its west coast. If this vote inevitably passes please rename the node, it still holds the name "Esthyran Sea" which no longer exists		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Sea of Nixe	Geoboi (talk) 14:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)	Pronounced /ˈnɪksə/ . Named after the nixie, a shapeshifting water spirit in Germanic folklore. The singular form is nix, the plural form is nixe. Having a Germanic name for the sea would help strengthen the broad cultural unity amongst all of the Germanic countries surrounding the sea, making up more than half of the sea's total coastline.
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Sea 7

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Gulf of Volta	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki. Named after the island of Volta on its west coast.	Name perhaps sounds unusually slavic, considering the local cultures are largely German and English colonial.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Gulf of Merga	Ominvar (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Named after the island of Merga on its west coast.
Ostmeer	Ominvar (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	German for "East Sea", reflects local culture and position relative to Germanic countries
Gulf of Meerbusen	Awesomeboy123 (talk) 10:43, 25 January 2025 (UTC)	"Meerbusen" means gulf in Gaerman. Refers to the accidental double-naming in translations.
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Sea 8

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Emerald Sea	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki.		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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Sea 9

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Scythian Sea	N/A	Established name, already referred to in wiki. Refers to "Scythe of Uletha".	Scythia is a fairly well known RW culture/region. Name should be avoided to avoid confusion with RW.
Scythine Sea	Geoboi (talk) 14:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)	Minuscule adjustment of established name, distancing the name from RW culture/region.	Name still might sound too similar to Scythia.
Lesser Whale Sea	Gubble (talk) 13:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)	Refers to "Great Whale Sea" and "Whale Sea States"		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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Sea 10

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Gulf of Eiha/Eihan Gulf	Awesomeboy123 (talk) 14:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)	Ancient name for Lantian peninsula. Meaning "9 mountains", for the 9 great (sacred) mountains in the modern-day Lantian Peninsula.		Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Gulf of [Name of region 2/3] / [Name of region 2/3]ian Gulf	Leowezy (talk) 12:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)	Strongly dominated by these two distinct areas, similar to Persian Gulf etc.
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Sea 13

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
Valian Sea / Great Whale Sea	N/A	Established names, already referred to in wiki.	Two names are interchangeable. If a mapper wants to suggest making only one name official, please add a suggestion in the row below.	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
No name	Leowezy (talk) 12:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)	Already well-covered by the name "Ardentic Ocean"	It would perhaps be unintuitive for the sea, which already has an informal name, to not be named anymore.
Valian Gulf	Geoboi (talk) 14:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)	Retains one of the established names already in use on the wiki, "gulf" may be viewed as a more precise term for the comparatively smaller region of the Ardentic Ocean compared to the likes of Sea 14 or Sea 1.
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Sea 14

Name	Nominator	Pros	Cons	Votes
No Name	N/A	Name is not required and the sea can be considered part of the Ardentic Ocean.	Names are useful for regional identity, coordination, and map reading.
Beyan Sea	Gubble (talk) 22:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)	Loosely from Chinese "Beiyang" meaning north ocean. Ingerish colonists would have named the sea based off what they heard from the North Archantan locals.	Native Chinese speaker needs to validate if the translation of "Beiyang" is accurate. Not a native speaker but a fluent speaker, I doubt that this is the most accurate - ParrotMan (talk) 02:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Sea --User:Lithium-Ion | [1] (talk) 05:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC) As a Chinese native speaker, I guess "Beiyang" is referring to "北洋". This name would let native people come up with the Beiyang government and it's hard to say if it is good... If you want to keep the meaning of north ocean, I've given another sugguestion below. --NM$l (talk) 10:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC) if someone want to decrease the feeling of Beiyang government they can use Beibingyang (laugh), but Beibingyang is actually name of Arctic Ocean （and a kind of soda) --快乐的老鼠宝宝 (talk) 16:32, 29 January 2025 (UTC)	Gubble (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Beihai	ParrotMan (talk) 02:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC)	Perhaps a more accurate translation of "north ocean", Hai --> Ocean and bei --> North; the mish-mash of names inspired to how the province "Hubei" irl is named	Originally a Chinese name but left for Ingerish colonizers to butcher. "Berring Sea" would still fit (see above) but for a different reason.
Pepming	NM$l (talk) 10:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)	Come from the word "北冥", also meaning the north ocean, first appeared in Zhuangzi's philosophical essay "There are fish in the North Underworld" in ancient China but now rarely used. I changed the pronounce a little bit, which could be explained that it is the records difference in the old time.	: Good idea but I think use Beiming from pinyin transliteration maybe better. --快乐的老鼠宝宝 (talk) 16:30, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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Other Comments

Only regions which include / border 4 or more countries have been included.

The large seas (particularly Sea 4 and Sea 5) would likely include different names for the smaller bodies of water within the sea. The individual countries which encompass/border these constituent bodies of water are free to name these smaller bodies of water as they please.

Mountain ranges have not been included in this forum thread, though we expect a separate discussion may be needed in the future to name mountain ranges.

Please consider the East Ulethan vision (OpenGeofiction:East Uletha - OpenGeofiction) when naming the region.

A brief summary of the cultures are below:

Japanese and Korean (and similar conlangs) in the South-east.

Indo-Aryan in the South-west.

German in the centre (all around the Darcodian Sea)

Slavic in the West (Ohemia)

Finno-Ugric natives scattered across the centre and north.

English colonial in the east

Various native conlangs in the north.