Forum:Valonne/Valonian vocabulary
As acting project coordinator for Valony, I have started a sandbox with some Valonian vocabulary that may be used in mapping: Valonian exonyms, names for religions, rivers...
For the following elements, having a Valonian equivalent has not been that easy. I'm proposing some solutions but others may well fit even better. Feel free to share your opinion, even though you're not well-versed in French:
Valonian exonyms
Archanta
Federal States
Based on US/American - américain/états-unien, should we have état-fédérien/ne and/or archantéen/ne?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Kartumie
Should we have Cartumie with a /y/ sound or Cartoumie with a /u/ sound?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Tarephia
Novakia
Should we have novaque as we have Slovaquie/slovaque or novaquien? As Novakia is small and not a neighbouring country, it's rather unlikely we'll have a rue des novaques compared to rue des pléviens
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Uletha
Astria
In French, V-S-C (where V is for vowel and C for consonant) tends to switch to V̂-C. Should we have Astrie or Âtrie? And consequently, should we have astrien/astrienne or âtrien/âtrienne? Note that we may still have Âtrie but astrien, or reverse.
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Âtrie and âtrien(ne) both sound good to me. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Kalm
Kalm equivalent is rather tricky as the direct one would be Calme as in calm.
- Using French phonetics, we could have: Kalm -> Chalm (as in caput->chef or canus->chien k->tʃ->ʃ) and later a palatisation of the l Chalm -> Le Chaum or Chaüm (as in saltus->saut salva->sauge al->aw->o) pronounced /ʃa.ɔm/, with a potential adjective chahomais/chahomaise.
- A complete exonym as we have, IRW, Deutsch/German/Allemand/Tedescho...
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Chaum sounds good, but Chahomais look kind of funny on the eye. Are there any potential corruption to make it appear simpler? Like Chomais? ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Religions
Imamism
Should we have imamiste or imamique as an adjective equivalent to musulman?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Ivarian
Should we have hibérain(e) (ɛ̃/ɛn or ɛn in South of France) or hibéran(e) (ã/an or ane in South of France) as an adjective equivalent to juif/ve - israélite? Likewise, should we have Hibérainisme or Hibéranisme?
--Aiki (talk) 03:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- If following trends in some other countries on OGF, we can have it get derived from the country of Ivira (Iviron). ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Odonyms
Political system
IRW France, many main streets or squares are de la République. Though many Rue or Place Royale still exist in France, a lots of them have been "republically" renamed. If Valony is a republic, I'd assume many ways tagged highway: will be named accordingly. Should we consider Valony a republic?
--Aiki (talk) 04:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Personally, I am fine with either a monarchy or republic. Republics are more common nowadays, a monarchy could make things interesting. Either way I think we can approach the street issue by just ignoring the 'republicanisation', so to call. I think it would be more interesting to have both the sense of historical monarchism and present-day republicanism coexist. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 19:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Public figures
Below are some names I've noted from places, mainly in Nemans:
| Name | Surname | Profession | Dates |
|---|---|---|---|
| Auréline | Personification of Valonne (alike Marianne)? | ||
| Georges | Bêches | ||
| César | Binet | ||
| Lucien | Dalasque | Author | ~1850s |
| Bernard | de l'Aïc | ||
| Edmond | de Remmeau | Philanthropist | ~1880s-1920s |
| Léopold | Decazes | ||
| ? | d'Estienne Tour | ||
| Léonard | d'Ouaisie | ||
| ? | Ducelle | ||
| Alphonse | Durant | ||
| Michelle | Frochot | ||
| Philippe | Le Bon | Ruler | |
| Roger | Le Grand | Ruler | |
| ? | Marbois | Marshal | |
| Étienne | Ruau | ||
| Hippolyte | Sudreau | ||
| Arnoulet XII Maindedieu (Hand of God) | Lerlac (idea) | Emperor |