Forum:Global and regional issues/Eastern Ulethan Organisation of Independent Allies
What is the status of EUOIA?
In the old wiki, we had EUOIA. Now that the old wiki is going, I'm wondering what is the status of EUOIA? Will it still be a thing? There seems to be very few mentions of it in the current wiki and of course most of the old information will be gone soon so even if it still shows on the map somewhere, there's very little information around. —Unsigned comment by Eevee (talk).
- Honestly, I'm not sure how much interest there is in the EUOIA at this point in time. Perhaps there is some?
- If there is interest in the EUOIA, there are two options that are possible for active regional collaborations: A collab page can be made (such as Collab:Eastern Ulethan Organisation of Independent Allies that is for regional collaboration, discussion, and coordination; also, if there is a desire for an in-universe article, the EUOIA page can be made in the main namespace. We only ask that EUOIA article (not collab page) be reserved for in-universe and on-map documentation like an encyclopedia entry; user-to-user coordination and collaboration should be in a collab page. Feel free to ask me directly if you have other questions. — Alessa (talk) 21:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Izaland would be now interested in an active role in EUOIA now, since in the meantime I have been mapping it significantly, and probably Izaland would also be the major economy in Eastern Uletha. (by Izaland - 10:41 JST 21 February 2022 [sorry, I don't know how to use the signature in the wiki])
- Eelanti is still interested in EUOIA as well and could have some role in it too. So I guess if there are a few others it could still be a thing. I'm not sure how to reach other people best to see if there is interest. (Signature is "~~~~" btw) — Eevee (talk) 01:52, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- I can't think of any major influence on my mapping that came from being part of EUOIA; so unless that changes, i.e. by having communal military bases or hosting foreign ones, a common nomenclature for nature reserves (like EU's FFH) or what not, the EUOIA would for the most part still be a wiki-sided project with few reflections on the actual map. That doesn't mean Kojo wouldn't be part of a new EUOIA, but I'd personally prefer if we thought about the mapping-side of things first.Leowezy (talk) 09:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- It definitely should be visible on the map. But that does require some collaboration first. The EU for example has many different office buildings in different countries. As an example, the European Chemicals Agency in Helsinki. So it definitely could include many map based things in addition to potential parliament buildings, courts, EUOIA embassies etc. But that would be for the community to decide. The old EUOIA had some suborganisations, but we probably would need an active core to EUOIA to get the basic stuff decided, so that it could be mapped as well. — Eevee (talk) 20:41, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, my country, Kara, would be interested in a EUOIA although it wasn't a member before (it didn't exist 😉) Anonymous21 (talk) 14:41, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- From my side there is also interest in a new EUOIA. There was some cooperation ongoing, we built a rail transport corridor across the islands from the south to the north of Eastern Uletha, electricity lines and so on. --Mstr (talk) (talk) 17:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Neberly wasn't part of EUOIA before, but should it come back i would like it to be a member too. Antoon (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- As there seems to be growing interest in this, how should we continue our discussions and find new members? Mstr sentt me a message and I shared some thought and ideas with him already. In my view active discussions on the area, it's relationships, collaborations and geopolitics could help mapping a lot (even when it's not a literal building for EUOIA). It could make the region more coherent and realistic. --Eevee (talk) 20:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Neberly wasn't part of EUOIA before, but should it come back i would like it to be a member too. Antoon (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- From my side there is also interest in a new EUOIA. There was some cooperation ongoing, we built a rail transport corridor across the islands from the south to the north of Eastern Uletha, electricity lines and so on. --Mstr (talk) (talk) 17:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, my country, Kara, would be interested in a EUOIA although it wasn't a member before (it didn't exist 😉) Anonymous21 (talk) 14:41, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- It definitely should be visible on the map. But that does require some collaboration first. The EU for example has many different office buildings in different countries. As an example, the European Chemicals Agency in Helsinki. So it definitely could include many map based things in addition to potential parliament buildings, courts, EUOIA embassies etc. But that would be for the community to decide. The old EUOIA had some suborganisations, but we probably would need an active core to EUOIA to get the basic stuff decided, so that it could be mapped as well. — Eevee (talk) 20:41, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- I can't think of any major influence on my mapping that came from being part of EUOIA; so unless that changes, i.e. by having communal military bases or hosting foreign ones, a common nomenclature for nature reserves (like EU's FFH) or what not, the EUOIA would for the most part still be a wiki-sided project with few reflections on the actual map. That doesn't mean Kojo wouldn't be part of a new EUOIA, but I'd personally prefer if we thought about the mapping-side of things first.Leowezy (talk) 09:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Eelanti is still interested in EUOIA as well and could have some role in it too. So I guess if there are a few others it could still be a thing. I'm not sure how to reach other people best to see if there is interest. (Signature is "~~~~" btw) — Eevee (talk) 01:52, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
So I made this table with (what I think are) all the territories in East Uletha that we can use to track who's on interested in the project. And for people who don't know about the EUOIA idea, we can contact them (just leave a note in the right column) and see if they're interested. Maybe this will help with gauging interest? Anonymous21 (talk) 04:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Status | ID Code | Owner | Contacted - Interested in EUOIA |
reserved | UL18a | admin | |
available | UL18b | admin | |
owned | UL18c | Reviriegu | |
reserved | UL19a | admin | |
available | UL19b | admin | |
available | UL20a | admin | |
owned | UL20b | ndgid | |
reserved | UL20c | admin | |
available | UL20d | admin | |
owned | UL21a | SwissCrusader | Interested |
owned | UL21b | SwissCrusader | Do not add (unstable country) |
archived | UL21c | admin | |
owned | UL21d | jak | |
owned | UL21e | jak | |
owned | UL21f | Sarepava | |
owned | UL21g | Halvarda | |
owned | UL21h | Halvarda | |
owned | UL21i | Halvarda | |
owned | UL22a | antoon | Interested |
owned | UL22b | SwissCrusader | Interested |
available | UL22c | admin | |
owned | UL22d | Rasmus Rasmusson | |
owned | UL22e | Yuanls | Interested |
owned | UL22f | Anonymous21 | Interested |
owned | UL22i | SwissCrusader | Interested |
owned | UL23a | theCubic | |
owned | UL23b | Eevee | |
reserved | UL23c | admin | |
available | UL23d | admin | |
owned | UL24b | tars | |
owned | UL24c | julijahaller | |
owned | UL24d | julijahaller | |
owned | UL24e | julijahaller | |
owned | UL24i | mstr | |
owned | UL24j | mstr | |
collaborative | Collab:Viljanni | mstr | |
owned | UL24l | TheMapper27 | |
owned | UL24m | ifgus | |
owned | UL25a | Jasmetk0 | |
reserved | UL25b | admin | |
marked for withdrawal | UL25c | elabo | |
reserved | UL25d | admin | |
reserved | UL25f | admin | |
reserved | UL25g | admin | |
reserved | UL25h | admin | |
collaborative | Collab:Midistland | admin | |
available | UL26b | admin | |
available | UL26c | admin | |
available | UL26d | admin | |
available | UL26e | admin | |
available | UL26f | admin | |
reserved | UL27a | admin | |
available | UL27b | admin | |
owned | Reeland | tule00 | |
available | UL27d | admin | |
reserved | UL27e | admin | |
reserved | UL27f | admin | |
reserved | UL27g | admin | |
owned | Laurentia | fauxcartograph | |
owned | Steilerberg | tule00 | |
available | UL28a | admin | |
owned | UL28b | Distel | |
owned | UL28c | reCharged | |
owned | UL28d | geoboi | |
marked for withdrawal | UL28e | CaribbeanIslandMapper | |
owned | UL28f | Stara Zagora | |
owned | UL28g | Chrisi LE EO | |
available | UL28h | [1] | |
owned | UL29c | Gubble | |
owned | Westway | acv | |
owned | UL29h | APP6A | |
owned | Lantia | nehlaem501 | |
available | UL29j | admin | |
owned | UL29k | sjk23 | |
owned | UL29l | MarcustheMapper | |
owned | UL30a | admin | |
reserved | UL30b | admin | |
reserved | UL30c | admin | |
marked for withdrawal | UL30d | Trellux | |
reserved | UL30e | admin | |
reserved | UL31a | admin | |
owned | UL31b | Leowezy | |
owned | UL31c | drgtgd | |
owned | UL31e / Izaland | Izaland Terramorphing Committee | Interested |
available | UL32a | [2] | |
owned | UL32c | Easky30 | |
owned | UL32d | BelpheniaProject | |
collaborative | Collab:Niulutan-Riu | admin | |
archived | UL33b | admin | |
owned | UL33c | BelpheniaProject | |
owned | UL33d | deltanz | |
reserved | Collab:Suvuma | BMSOUZA | |
owned | UL33f | BMSOUZA | |
available | UL33g | admin | |
owned | UL33h | BMSOUZA | |
owned | UL33i | Easky30 | |
available | UL33j | admin | |
owned | UL33k | Marcello | |
owned | UL33l | Lithium-Ion | |
owned | UL33m | Lithium-Ion |
Starting a "new" EUOIA or reanimate the old one?
As Eevee already mentioned, I've tried to find out the interest in an EUOIA successor organization. Since there have been much more users responding with "yes" than not responding or saying "no", I tried to set up a first idea here. It is based on the outcome of the responses, which told me that there are different levels of contribution, independency of the nation and topics which should be addressed. So, it seems to be plausible to, lets say, start with some treaties which are essential for every member nation to ratify. Additionally, there could be more precise agreements, where only those join who are interested in. I think, before it is moved from a sandbox to a separate page, we should discuss and finalize the name of the organization.--Mstr (talk) (talk) 21:54, 12 December 2022 (UTC)