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	Territory ID and proposed name
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UL03l^∈^⊾ - República Platina (Platinan Republic)

	Physical geography
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Masterplan de mapeo general para la República Platina (UL03l^∈^⊾)

Climate. The Platinan Republic is characterized for being tropical as a result of its geographical location near the Equator, presenting numerous variations depending on the altitude, temperature, humidity, winds and rainfall. Each climatic region mantains an average temperature throughout the year, only presenting variables determined by precipitation during the rainy season.
Topography and landscape. The Platinan Republic is located in the center of the Liberan Island, a region of West Uletha. The most mountainous areas are in the northwest, with minor mountain ranges throughout the territory in the northeast, southwest and the border with UL03t. There is a large valley in the center, with three sizeable lakes covering the landscape. The capital is located in the valley, south of the largest lake.

Please review the masterplan for general mapping if you want further information about our proposal.

The star stands for "capital city", the golden dots stand for "largest cities" and red dots for "minor cities".
Human geography
A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style

The Platinan Republic is a multicultural country, with numerous immigrants living in organized communities of the largest cities. Even though the entirety of the Platinan Republic was conquered by Castellán, there are important communities of Francophone natives in the insular region and pre-Castellanese settlers (inspired by Mayans and natives from Panama and Costa Rica, as some nearby countries have native American influence in the naming system and dialect) in the northern regions of both coasts.

Unlike most of Latin American countries, the Platinan Republic is expected to have a developed and high-income economy. The manufacturing sector (heavy industry and materials), mining and oil extraction are the predominant economic activities of the country, with a developing market of financial and technology services. There is a heavy agriculture and fishing industry in the northwestern coast and the insular region, with a significant light industry taking place in the industrial areas of the country.

Most of the map is expected to be filled with grassland and other landuses that can be used if needed, as suggested by the masterplan. The highest mountains in the northeast are expected to have some glaciars (trying to continue the mapping style of the neighbouring country, Alvorán) and the largest island in the south is expected to have an unactive volcano in it. The Platinan Republic is expected to have a more organized city layout style, as it developed differently compared to Latin American nations, with the city center and historic areas having organized grids and senseful curves if needed by the topography, similar to what is seen in Canadian cities like Ottawa, Montréal, Winnipeg and Vancouver.

Some large cities, primarily those who date back to the early colonial period, may combine that style with a Spanish colonial layout similar to what is seen in Panama (Ciudad de Panamá, Colón, David, Santiago de Veraguas), Costa Rica (San José, Cartago), Mexico City and Santiago de Chile, for example.

	History & culture
	A brief description of the intended culture and language

Latin America has one of the most enriching, diverse and multiethnic cultures in our real world. There are countries who have assimilated their native ancestry (like Mexico, Peru and Bolivia), others who mostly have European ancestry (like Argentina and Uruguay), and others whose cultures and population evolved with constant migrations from numerous countries throughout the world (like Panama). Even though they face numerous economic, political and social issues, their cultures trascended the cultural borders of Latin America and have conquered Northern America, Europe and other regions throughout the world.

We want to honor our Latin American heritage and cultural involvement by developing a new project, inspired by the best of our cultural region. The Platinan Republic was conquered by Castellán, in a timespan somewhat earlier than that of Latin America (as it is in the same continent than the conqueror), evolving culturally and socially throughout centuries of colonial domination. They reached independence by the late 18th century, and developed economically in a significatively higher rate than the RW-region it is inspired on, somehow similar to Eastern Europe and some British colonies. It is currently a developed nation, who attracted numerous immigrants due to its development rate and economic activity, and has a high standard of living; its culture and multiethnic society, with numerous holidays, accomodations and museums to honor its cultural legacy.

	Past mapping
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	The {{coord}} template can optionally be used to link to the OGF map - it results in a nice formatted link. Or you can paste in a URL.

Past mapping of Mapping Expert:

Vondréaux, Déserts (currently AR058) - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=16/-23.7089/112.0071&layers=B
Worthington, Trinity Island (currently Hyde) - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-42.3203/161.2182&layers=B
Khenu, Ta Seti - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/27.1811/29.3827&layers=B
[Developing] Capital city, Ta Seti - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/26.7278/29.0340&layers=B
Magium, Imperium - https://arhet.rent-a-planet.com/#map=15/-21.5905/-12.8707&layers=1
Hertogswilt, Lentië - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/56.7473/44.6035&layers=B
Among other collaborative and individual projects

Past mapping of Imperator:

Natural and general city layout of Ta Seti - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=7/25.835/27.697&layers=B
Natural layout of Alvorán - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=7/13.304/57.997&layers=B
Natural, administrative and general city layout of Imperium - https://arhet.rent-a-planet.com/#map=5/-25.562/-16.128&layers=1
Among other collaborative and individual projects

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Mapping Expert (talk) 04:30, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Imperator (talk) 20:01, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

	Discussion
	Discussion for clarification & decision

Thank you for the application. I just got back from having to handle some family matters, so Bixelkoven and I will start discussing as soon as we can connect. I just wanted to let you know that we weren't ignoring the application. Cheers. — Alessa _(talk) 14:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, hope everything's fine! We'll review the application regularly if you need to discuss any detail about it. Mapping Expert (talk) 20:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Imperator/Mapping Expert, apologies for the wait. The plan overall looks good. Not sure about the city layouts influenced by the Canadian cities you've listed, that type of cities is mostly found in Archanta, but that's not a major issue. I'd replace covering most of the nation with grassland with forests, as it should follow the region's landscape of thick forests. Everything else looks pretty good to me and convincing. I'll still refrain from deciding on the outcome, as I'd like to discuss it further with Alessa. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 13:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! Sure, we have no problem with covering most of the country's territory with forests instead of grassland. We might still use grassland for some mapping areas, if needed by the geography. I mentioned some Canadian cities as examples of city layout because I saw them as more natural in terms of following the traditional Spanish layout that is seen in Panama City, Panama (for example); however, I could not provide a RW-example as most Latin American cities evolved irregularly from their city centers, but I'm expecting that our cities will be more organized in terms of city layout. Hope to hear updates from you and admin Alessa! Mapping Expert (talk) 18:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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 {{Territory application id and name}}
-AR120-21 - Opelika
+{{relation|11806|UL03l}} - República Platina (''Platinan Republic'')
-It means "large swamp" in Creek, and yes, I am aware of the town in Alabama with the same name.
 {{territory application physical geography}}
+[[File:Masterplan of the República Platina.png|alt=|thumb|397x397px|Masterplan de mapeo general para la República Platina ('''{{relation|11806|UL03l}}''')]]
-The climate will be very similar to that of North and South Carolina east of the coastal plain, having a Humid Subtropical climate. In the western portion of Opelika, I plan to include bluffs and hills along the Lucas River. Another area I plan to include hills is in the far southeastern portion of the state, near the border with -04. Since the fall line is located so far west in the state, the rivers will have a large radius of swamps/marshes around them. Where I have included cities along these rivers are at places where there are tight bends in the river, or where most of the wetlands are concentrated on one bank of the river. Here is my [https://imgur.com/a/WnnDAQU sketch]. (cities are not finalized besides the large ones)
+*'''Climate.''' The Platinan Republic is characterized for being tropical as a result of its geographical location near the Equator, presenting numerous variations depending on the altitude, temperature, humidity, winds and rainfall. Each climatic region mantains an average temperature throughout the year, only presenting variables determined by precipitation during the rainy season.
+*'''Topography and landscape.''' The Platinan Republic is located in the center of the Liberan Island, a region of West Uletha. The most mountainous areas are in the northwest, with minor mountain ranges throughout the territory in the northeast, southwest and the border with UL03t. There is a large valley in the center, with three sizeable lakes covering the landscape. The capital is located in the valley, south of the largest lake.
-{{territory application human geography}}
-The population of Opelika will be ~2.5m, about half the population of SC. See discussion below to see how I reached this number.
-Brief descriptions of the four major cities, from west to east:
-. This city will take inspiration from Statesville and Salisbury, NC, as well as some from Greenville, SC, and will be the smallest of the four cities. (~95k in the city limits, ~410k metro)
-.  The capital city will be inspired by Columbia, SC, as well as Greenville and Fayetteville, NC. (~120k in the city limits, ~560k metro)
-. This city will have the largest metro area of the four, but will be the second largest in terms of within the city limits. It will take inspiration from Fayetteville, NC and Orangeburg, SC, and because of the nearby hills, will also be inspired by Petersburg and Fredericksburg, VA. (~130k in the city limits, ~610k metro)
-. This city will be heavily inspired by Charleston, SC, with a very similar history and geographic location. (~160k in the city limits, ~530k metro)
-I plan for a fourth of the island in the far east to be taken up by either a military base, or a state/national park. This island will also be a major tourist destination, with tourism here being a response to the downfall of the textile mills throughout the state, and one of the reasons for the state's economic success.
+Please review the '''''masterplan for general mapping''''' if you want further information about our proposal.
-{{territory application history and culture}}
+* The star stands for "<u>capital city</u>", the golden dots stand for "<u>largest cities</u>" and red dots for "<u>minor cities</u>". {{territory application human geography}}The Platinan Republic is a multicultural country, with numerous immigrants living in organized communities of the largest cities. Even though the entirety of the Platinan Republic was conquered by Castellán, there are important communities of Francophone natives in the insular region and pre-Castellanese settlers (inspired by Mayans and natives from Panama and Costa Rica, as some nearby countries have native American influence in the naming system and dialect) in the northern regions of both coasts.
-Culturally, I envision Opelika to be a mix between the large expanse of rural populations of South Carolina, and, due to slavery being abolished much earlier, also including aspects of industry similar to North Carolina and Virginia with the railroad and textiles playing an important role.
+Unlike most of Latin American countries, the Platinan Republic is expected to have a developed and high-income economy. The manufacturing sector (heavy industry and materials), mining and oil extraction are the predominant economic activities of the country, with a developing market of financial and technology services. There is a heavy agriculture and fishing industry in the northwestern coast and the insular region, with a significant light industry taking place in the industrial areas of the country.
+Most of the map is expected to be filled with grassland and other landuses that can be used if needed, as suggested by the masterplan. The highest mountains in the northeast are expected to have some glaciars (trying to continue the mapping style of the neighbouring country, Alvorán) and the largest island in the south is expected to have an unactive volcano in it. The Platinan Republic is expected to have a more organized city layout style, as it developed differently compared to Latin American nations, with the city center and historic areas having organized grids and senseful curves if needed by the topography, similar to what is seen in Canadian cities like [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/45.4312/-75.6774 Ottawa], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/45.5035/-73.5571 Montréal], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/49.8975/-97.1433 Winnipeg] and [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/49.2544/-123.0695 Vancouver].
-History wise, Opelika would have been an area where many railroads were built, due to being between many cities and Orterrado. another reason for the many railroads would be because the textile industry would play a major role in the area, since the soil is made of predominantly clay, limiting agricultural productivity.
+Some large cities, primarily those who date back to the early colonial period, may combine that style with a Spanish colonial layout similar to what is seen in Panama ([https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/8.9634/-79.5254 Ciudad de Panamá], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/9.3562/-79.8942 Colón], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/8.4226/-82.4079 David], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/8.1044/-80.9699 Santiago de Veraguas]), Costa Rica ([https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/9.9337/-84.0883 San José], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/9.8633/-83.9125 Cartago]), [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/19.4070/-99.1379 Mexico City] and [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/-33.4469/-70.6359 Santiago de Chile], for example.{{territory application history and culture}}
-After the mills go into decline, when a new source of income is needed, Opelika turns to the tourism industry. The far eastern island becomes a tourist hotspot due to the natural beauty and beaches. Another new source of income the Opelika government seeks out is that of sources of operations for corporations. Due to the central location between Stanton, Orterrado, and Huntington, and being near the center of the east coast, this attracted many companies primarily doing business on the east coast. In modern times, Opelika attempts to continue to draw companies with low corporate taxes.
+Latin America has one of the most enriching, diverse and multiethnic cultures in our real world. There are countries who have  assimilated their native ancestry (like Mexico, Peru and Bolivia), others who mostly have European ancestry (like Argentina and Uruguay), and others whose cultures and population evolved with constant migrations from numerous countries throughout the world (like Panama). Even though they face numerous economic, political and social issues, their cultures trascended the cultural borders of Latin America and have conquered Northern America, Europe and other regions throughout the world.
+<hr>
+We want to honor our Latin American heritage and cultural involvement by developing a new project, inspired by the best of our cultural region. The Platinan Republic was conquered by [[Collab:Castellán|Castellán]], in a timespan somewhat earlier than that of Latin America (as it is in the same continent than the conqueror), evolving culturally and socially throughout centuries of colonial domination. They reached independence by the late 18th century, and developed economically in a significatively higher rate than the RW-region it is inspired on, somehow similar to Eastern Europe and some British colonies. It is currently a developed nation, who attracted numerous immigrants due to its development rate and economic activity, and has a high standard of living; its culture and multiethnic society, with numerous holidays, accomodations and museums to honor its cultural legacy.
 {{territory application past mapping}}
-Michisaukee:
+'''Past mapping of Mapping Expert:'''
-https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/-36.8889/155.3528&layers=B<nowiki/>(suburban)
+* Vondréaux, Déserts (currently AR058) - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=16/-23.7089/112.0071&layers=B
+* Worthington, Trinity Island (currently Hyde) - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-42.3203/161.2182&layers=B
+* Khenu, Ta Seti - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/27.1811/29.3827&layers=B
+* [Developing] Capital city, Ta Seti - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/26.7278/29.0340&layers=B
+* Magium, Imperium - https://arhet.rent-a-planet.com/#map=15/-21.5905/-12.8707&layers=1
+* Hertogswilt, Lentië - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/56.7473/44.6035&layers=B
+* Among other collaborative and individual projects
-https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-34.4237/158.2850&layers=B<nowiki/>(rural)
+'''Past mapping of Imperator:'''
-https://opengeofiction.net/#map=13/-34.4883/158.4095&layers=B<nowiki/>(rural)
+* Natural and general city layout of Ta Seti - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=7/25.835/27.697&layers=B
+* Natural layout of Alvorán - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=7/13.304/57.997&layers=B
+* Natural, administrative and general city layout of Imperium - https://arhet.rent-a-planet.com/#map=5/-25.562/-16.128&layers=1
+* Among other collaborative and individual projects
+{{territory application username and date}}
-Bephir (my beginner territory):
+[[User:Mapping Expert|Mapping Expert]] ([[User talk:Mapping Expert|talk]]) 04:30, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
-https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/13.8994/-109.2650&layers=B<nowiki/>(urban)
-https://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/13.8286/-109.5160&layers=B<nowiki/>(rural)
-{{territory application username and date}}
-[[User:JustSomeMapper|JustSomeMapper]] ([[User talk:JustSomeMapper|talk]]) 01:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
+[[User:Imperator|Imperator]] ([[User talk:Imperator|talk]]) 20:01, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 {{territory application discussion}}
-Hi! {{Orange Coast}} owner here, your future NE neighbor! Well, I just would like to point that, when I was sketching my state, I read and consider [[Collab:Federal States/Transportation#Highways and Motorways|this article about highways]] and [[User:TheMayor/sandbox/National Rail schedules#Crescent Dawn|this article about railways]], as they got a long discussion in the beginings of FSA project. It is not a mandatory thing, but please consider that AR120-21 is a strategic place as part of FS-9 (going to Anne Abbey) and final point to FS-50. About it, your skecth fits well, as FS-50 can run till the seaside city, and FS-9 also looks good. But about the railways, would you consider to create a direct rail between my state and Huntington? Just a question. I am mentioning these articles because they was some kind of guidelines to a keep regional and even national integration between the states. As said, not a mandatory thing, I am just asking about it. Best regards! [[User:BMSOUZA|BMSOUZA]] ([[User talk:BMSOUZA|talk]]) 02:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
+* Thank you for the application. I just got back from having to handle some family matters, so Bixelkoven and I will start discussing as soon as we can connect. I just wanted to let you know that we weren't ignoring the application. Cheers. &mdash; [[User:Alessa|Alessa]] <sub>([[User talk:Alessa|talk]])</sub> 14:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
-:Thanks for bringing this to my attention! I should've read more into the railroad plans before drawing them on my sketch. I'm glad you brought this up before I potentially received my state. I will gladly include that railroad if I my application gets accepted. [[User:JustSomeMapper|JustSomeMapper]] ([[User talk:JustSomeMapper|talk]]) 03:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
+** No problem, hope everything's fine! We'll review the application regularly if you need to discuss any detail about it. [[User:Mapping Expert|Mapping Expert]] ([[User talk:Mapping Expert|talk]]) 20:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
-This application is super comprehensive, and I really like it! I have just one thing to note though: the population of 4.5 million is pretty high, and would give it a density of 414/square mile, which is around the density of New York and Florida and much higher than what you're going for (I had this same problem when applying for Ogdalen, thinking it was bigger than it actually was lol). I'd recommend you use a density around NC's or Virginia's, which are 215 and 219/square mile respectively, which would give your state a range around 2.33-2.37 million. I'd also recommend you downsize a few of the metros, as that's a lot of cities of that size to cram into such a small state. Other than that, though, I really like your application, and good luck on getting accepted! [[User:Icefur2|Icefur2]] ([[User talk:Icefur2|talk]]) 14:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
+* Hello, Imperator/Mapping Expert, apologies for the wait. The plan overall looks good. Not sure about the city layouts influenced by the Canadian cities you've listed, that type of cities is mostly found in Archanta, but that's not a major issue. I'd replace covering most of the nation with grassland with forests, as it should follow the region's landscape of thick forests. Everything else looks pretty good to me and convincing. I'll still refrain from deciding on the outcome, as I'd like to discuss it further with Alessa. ⸺ [[User:Bixelkoven|Bixelkoven]] ([[User talk:Bixelkoven|talk]]) (West Uletha Admin) 13:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
-: I'm glad you caught that! I thought that -21 was about the size of South Carolina, but some rough measuring with the scale helper tells me its just under 2/3 the size. I will update the planned population in the application to match this. How does 2.5m sound? it's about 2/3 the population of SC (~3.3m) minus most of the Greenville metro area (~900k), since the fall line is much further west in -21. {{unsigned|JustSomeMapper}}
+** Hello! Sure, we have no problem with covering most of the country's territory with forests instead of grassland. We might still use grassland for some mapping areas, if needed by the geography. I mentioned some Canadian cities as examples of city layout because I saw them as more natural in terms of following the traditional Spanish layout that is seen in Panama City, Panama (for example); however, I could not provide a RW-example as most Latin American cities evolved irregularly from their city centers, but I'm expecting that our cities will be more organized in terms of city layout. ''Hope to hear updates from you and admin Alessa!'' [[User:Mapping Expert|Mapping Expert]] ([[User talk:Mapping Expert|talk]]) 18:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
-Hello, I am one of the Archanta admins. I like your overall application, but before approving it I am curious as to what your plans are for the existing mapping in the state. Do you plan on repurposing any of the existing mapping or are you planning to start with more of a "clean slate"? --[[User:TheMayor|TheMayor]] ([[User talk:TheMayor|talk]]) 16:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)<blockquote>I think I will remove most of the current mapping, besides some of the suburbs around Morsboro, which I could re-use in one of the cities. I also want to keep the rural farm mapping in the southeastern portion of the state. [[User:JustSomeMapper|JustSomeMapper]] ([[User talk:JustSomeMapper|talk]]) 17:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)</blockquote><!-- replace this with {{territory application approved|summary of decision and signature|optionally useful information for the user}} or {{territory application closed|summary of decision and signature|optionally useful information for the user}} on closing -->
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