Forum:Territory application/AR910 - Republic of Haivin
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 | Territory ID and proposed name |
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| The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country |
AR910∈⊾ƨ - Hai-bín Kiōng-hô-kok - 海闵共和国 - Republic of Haivin
 | Physical geography |
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| An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. With the exception of Beginner territories, you should always create a sketch map to illustrate & explain your plans. You can add a link to this (hosted on imgBB, Postimages or similar, but not imgur.com) |
Climate
The country is strongly influenced by surrounding seas, resulting in abundant moisture and relatively mild temperatures throughout the year. Coastal areas receive significant rainfall from summer monsoon systems and occasional tropical cyclones.
Because the AR910 terrain contains broad coastal plains and relatively open maritime exposure, rainfall differences are mainly caused by local elevation changes rather than a large-scale rain-shadow effect.
Mountainous areas receive higher precipitation due to orographic lifting and maintain dense vegetation. Coastal plains experience warm and humid conditions suitable for intensive agriculture and urban development.
Topography
The Republic of Haivin is located on the northern coast of Archanta, approximately between 22°N and 26°N. The territory is characterised by a combination of coastal plains, hills, low mountains, river systems and a highly fragmented coastline.
Compared with the previous AR911 proposal, AR910 has a more extensive coastal area and a greater proportion of lowland regions. Rather than being divided by a single dominant mountain range, the landscape forms a gradual transition from inland hills and mountains to river valleys, alluvial plains and coastal areas.
The eastern part of Haivin is mainly composed of hills and low mountains, where extensive forests remain due to relatively limited development.
The central part contains broad river plains created by long-term sediment deposition. These fertile lowlands have historically supported intensive agriculture and dense settlements.
The coastline of Haivin is highly diverse, featuring numerous bays, peninsulas and offshore islands. This complex coastal environment has contributed to the development of maritime activities and port cities.
The relief map: https://postimg.cc/hzCPCMVM/2a0e5acb
Landscape
The natural landscapes of Haivin are characterised by subtropical evergreen forests, river plains, coastal wetlands and a diverse coastline. Some mountain areas preserve extensive natural vegetation, while coastal plains contain intensive agricultural land, settlements and urban areas.
 | Human geography |
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| A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style |
Population and Demographic
The population distribution of Haivin is strongly influenced by its mountainous and coastal geography. Most inhabitants are concentrated in coastal plains, river valleys and major bays, where fertile land and maritime transportation have supported dense settlements throughout history.
Compared with the previous AR911 proposal, AR910 provides a larger area suitable for urban and economic development. The country is expected to have a polycentric settlement pattern, with several major coastal cities and regional centres rather than a single dominant urban area.
Mountainous regions have relatively lower population density due to their terrain and remain important areas for forestry, ecological conservation and traditional rural communities.
The capital city, Bín-too (闵都), is located near the geographical centre of the country and serves as the political and cultural centre. Other coastal cities develop around major ports, river mouths and transportation corridors.
Two more large urban clusters are expected to be built along the western lagoon coast and the southeastern bay. They will jointly serve as the economic centre.
Economic Development
Haivin has a diversified economy based on maritime activities, agriculture, manufacturing and services.
The coastal regions benefit from the country's complex coastline and numerous natural harbours, supporting industries such as maritime transportation, fisheries, shipbuilding and trade. Major cities and industrial areas are mainly located around coastal bays, river mouths and transportation corridors.
The fertile river plains support intensive agriculture, including rice cultivation, fruit production and tea farming. Mountainous areas contribute through forestry, ecological tourism and other forms of sustainable resource use.
In recent decades, the service sector has become increasingly important, with finance, technology, tourism and logistics concentrated in major urban areas. Haivin's location along important maritime routes also contributes to its role as a regional transportation and commercial hub.
By the way, there are plans to excavate a canal in the future that connects the central lakes with the southeastern bay.
Land Use and Settlement Patterns
Land use in Haivin follows the country's mountainous and coastal geography.
Coastal plains, river valleys and lowlands are the most densely developed areas, containing major settlements, agricultural land and transportation networks. Rice fields, orchards and other forms of intensive agriculture are mainly distributed in fertile river plains. In particular, the vast plains near the capital will be responsible for the country's food supply.
Urban development is concentrated around coastal bays, river mouths and major transportation corridors. Rather than being dominated by a single metropolitan area, Haivin has a polycentric settlement pattern consisting of several regional cities, port towns and smaller rural communities.
Mountainous areas have lower population density and are mainly covered by forests, protected areas and scattered villages. These regions maintain important ecological functions while supporting forestry and local agricultural activities.
Mapping Style
The mapping style of Haivin is inspired by: southeastern coastal China, the Taiwan region, Southeast Asia and southern Japan. The metropolitan areas will be mapped in high detail and density, reflecting compact East Asian urban development patterns. Rural areas will be represented with lower-density development and realistic agricultural landscapes. Toponyms will follow a bilingual system consisting of Chinese characters and Minnan Pe̍h-ōe-jī (POJ) romanization.
 | History & culture |
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| A brief description of the intended culture and language |
History
The history of Haivin is closely connected with the broader Huaxia cultural sphere and the maritime societies of southern Archanta.
Early human activities appeared in the region thousands of years ago. During the expansion of Huaxia civilisation, migrants gradually settled along the coastal areas of northern Archanta, bringing written culture, agricultural traditions and linguistic influences. Over centuries of adaptation and interaction with local environments, these communities developed a distinct Minnan cultural identity.
Due to its mountainous terrain and maritime location, Haivin historically developed strong local communities and extensive coastal connections. Ports, merchant networks and overseas trade played an important role in shaping regional society.
Although Haivin does not share a direct land border with Huaxia, it maintains historical and cultural connections with the Huaxia civilisation through shared linguistic and cultural origins. Meanwhile, its closest regional interactions have historically taken place with neighbouring Peichew and Dehua, where Teochew and Cantonese cultures have influenced coastal trade, migration and cultural exchange. While Minnan culture remains the dominant identity, border and coastal regions have developed transitional characteristics influenced by neighbouring cultures.
Culture
Haivin culture forms part of the broader Huaxian cultural sphere while maintaining a strong maritime identity of its own. Modern Haivinese identity combines elements inherited from Huaxian civilization with a unique linguistic heritage and centuries of interaction with maritime societies across North Archanta.
The southern and eastern frontier regions have additionally been influenced by neighboring cultures, including Peichew cultural influences and Cinesia culture.
Language
The national language of the Republic of Haivin is Haivinese, corresponding to Minnan (Southern Min o Hokkien language) in the real world. Modern Chinese (Mandarin) serves as the official written language.
Within the OGF setting, Haivinese originated from the speech varieties brought by early migrants from the Huaxian cultural sphere and gradually developed into a distinct language through centuries of regional development, geographical separation and maritime exchange.
Due to Haivin's location within a wider coastal cultural region, the language has also maintained long-term contact with neighbouring Teochew-speaking Peichew and Cantonese-speaking Dehua communities. These interactions have contributed to linguistic similarities and transitional varieties in border and coastal areas.
Modern Haivin maintains a multilingual tradition. Standard Mandarin is widely used in education, administration and communication with the broader Huaxian cultural sphere, while Haivinese remains the primary language of everyday communication, local culture and community identity.
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A mountai town- A medium-sized city
- The border port city Ting-kháu: partially use the current coastline of Gudeng (Huaxia)
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--Haksi Tiao（Message） 10:28, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
 | Discussion |
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| Discussion for clarification & decision |
Discussion
- Hi, can you work on some detailed natural mapping please, provide that as an additional example. No rush. Thanks/wangi (talk) 10:36, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your prompt feedback! I will take my time and work on some detailed natural mapping examples. Hopefully, I will be able to show them on the map within the next one or two weeks. --Haksi Tiao（Message） 16:04, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- By the way, after discussing the proposal below with the neighboring projects, I have started considering part of AR910 as my first project (like this). I would like to ask whether you think this would be a reasonable direction. Thanks! --Haksi Tiao（Message） 10:43, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- This is an interesting proposal, though actually I hoped one day Peichew could be expanded to 今城 over there. I actually envisioned the area to be Hakka-speaking, once ruled by Giuka (九家) clans but now that area is split between Huaxia and Peichew. That said, I might suggest also just taking a northern part of AR911∈⊾ƨ, or maybe a part of AR910∈⊾ƨ might be suitable if you plan to create a Minnan speaking country.--Zhenkang (talk) 12:05, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Haha, thanks for your comment and for sharing some of the background ideas you had for this area. The concept of incorporating Hakka culture into this region is very interesting. In fact, I have already considered the internal diversity of the area and even made a language map here (the green area corresponds to Hakka-speaking communities).
- As for the issue of territory size, would it be better to use the eastern boundary of Qing'an Province as the border? I would still like to place the capital at Jincheng (though the existing road network would certainly need to be rebuilt to meet more realistic standards). Of course, given the diverse coastline and the larger territory available, I have also considered AR910. However, I am concerned that it might be too large for me to handle at the moment. Meanwhile, Hokkien, Teochew, and Cantonese form a dialect continuum in the real world. From my perspective, if AR910 could be divided into two parts, it might be more convenient for both of us. I am just wondering whether such an arrangement would be feasible. Thank you again for your support and suggestions.--Haksi Tiao（Message） 16:34, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- There is also a possibility of taking only a part of AR910, and the rest still open for further expansion or claiming by other users. It depends on how much you want to split off.
- As for Gimsian (今城), the reason for the layout is because it's intended to be a newer city constructed by Peichew during their economic recovery and wanting to develop a new economic hub in the 70s.--Zhenkang (talk) 05:10, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, on behalf of the Huaxia Project, I'm glad to hear that you'd like to map here. If you need any help with international collaboration involving Huaxia (e.g., border control, international transport, etc.), feel free to reach out to me via the message system. By the way, personally, I think the current border shape of AR911 is a bit weird. Similar to what Zhenkang said, I believe it would be better if you only took the northern part of AR911, or alternatively, adjusted the straight southern boundary of AR911.
- Huaxia does not focus on the history too much. But if you need. Huaxia has proposed a history framework before. If you're interested, you may refer to this. Also, we don't mind which language is used. But if you need, we'd be happy to add some Minnan place names near the border area within Huaxia if you'd like to create a cultural transition zone. ——NM$l (talk) 14:33, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Additionally, we've noticed you've named your city 平果, which is the same as the real world 平果(Pingguo), Guangxi. xd NM$l (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi NM$l, Thank you very much for your support and for offering help with future coordination. As I mentioned above, I believe it would be better for us to divide AR911 and AR908∈⊾ƨ along the eastern boundary of Qing'an Province (清岸省).--Haksi Tiao（Message） 16:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for replying. Actually, as a suggestion, one of our mappers thought you could take half of 乐岸(Le'an), and leave the southern remaining to AR908. But it depends on you, and since I'm not the administrator, I don't have the right. You may require Wangi for reshaping the territory. ——NM$l (talk) 04:52, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you also for pointing me toward the Huaxia history framework. By the way, I completely agree with the Huaxia team's approach of focusing more on mapping itself rather than placing too much emphasis on detailed historical narratives. As for Pingguo, good catch! I hadn't realized that it shares the same name as the real-world city in Guangxi. I'll probably rename it before beginning detailed mapping to avoid confusion:). Thanks again for all the feedback and support.--Haksi Tiao（Message） 16:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, we've read the climate and topography part further. We agree that the west side of the Gudeng-Bai Range is drier with less and smaller river/streams. However, you mentioned that in certain area there would be sub-zero temperatures and occasional frost during winter. It seems that the border mountain range would be very high while we in our previous plan wish it would not be too high. Some of our mappers thought it would be very hard to get sub-zero temperatures (but occasional snow is possible) unless creating extremely high mountains, which might result to only very narrow costal plain like Gilan or Mazandaran in Iran. So, there might need a balance between the mountain height and plain width. Could you please provide an example elevation for the peaks? ——NM$l (talk) 04:26, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi NM$l, Thank you very much for your support and for offering help with future coordination. As I mentioned above, I believe it would be better for us to divide AR911 and AR908∈⊾ƨ along the eastern boundary of Qing'an Province (清岸省).--Haksi Tiao（Message） 16:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Additionally, we've noticed you've named your city 平果, which is the same as the real world 平果(Pingguo), Guangxi. xd NM$l (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Regarding the odd borders, the reason why they exists like that is because I just thought historically the line was established because Peichew signed a treaty with past Ulethan powers to limit their presence. Like Ulethan ports and any supporting military can only be established north of the line. And I actually hoped to claim both AR908 and AR910 for Peichew in the near future. But I will understand if you wish to claim a part of AR910.
- Also, Peichew's historical framework can be viewed there.--Zhenkang (talk) 07:15, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- The important bit is evidencing the mapping, so I can approve the application. The Northern Tropic boundary goes right back to the original territories here. It's an OGF Easter egg. Explain it how you'd like, but it stays. My plan, unless there's compelling reason otherwise, is to process this application with the territory boundaries as they exist. Thanks/wangi (talk) 15:14, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi wangi, thank you again for your patience and previous guidance. Over the past month, I have been working on the detailed natural mapping examples you requested. You can find the examples here and here. During this process, after further studying the geography of the surrounding region, I have gradually come to consider that a part of AR910 might be a better fit for my project than AR911, especially in terms of the geographical features and long-term mapping development. Of course, I fully respect the opinions and considerations of all involved projects,. I would appreciate your advice on whether such a change would be appropriate, and whether the current proposal could be adjusted accordingly or if a new application would be preferable. Thank you again for your time and support. --Haksi Tiao（Message） 08:53, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, I'll say it again, but without leaving any ambiguity: the territories are not being split up or reorganised. Please request one, based on how it is on the map now. Thanks/wangi (talk) 14:02, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, Thank you for the clarification. I completely understand. In that case, I've decided that AR910 is the territory I'd like to develop. Would you prefer that I update the current proposal, or submit a new application for AR910? Thank you again for your patience and guidance throughout this process. --Haksi Tiao（Message） 15:42, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- I've moved this one, just update here. /wangi (talk) 07:18, 21 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi wangi, I have now completed the detailed natural mapping work. There are three examples: one overall view and two more detailed examples ( here and here). --Haksi Tiao（Message） 12:42, 29 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, what I need now to progress this is the description updated so it's relevant to AR910, including the relief map. Should then be able to approve. Thanks/wangi (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, I have now updated the description to reflect AR910 and added the relief map accordingly here: https://postimg.cc/hzCPCMVM/2a0e5acb. Thanks again for your support. --Haksi Tiao（Message） 03:27, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
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Territory application approved |
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| Approved. /wangi (talk) 21:17, 30 July 2026 (UTC) | |
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